The bikes were already struggling to make 148kg, which is why they raised it this year to 150kg. Dropping 30lbs would cost astronomically more than a 700K gearbox.
Carmelo Ezpeleta says MotoGP must change now
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The bikes were already struggling to make 148kg, which is why they raised it this year to 150kg. Dropping 30lbs would cost astronomically more than a 700K gearbox.
A lot of people are using the word "prototype" without understanding what it means. That, I hasten to add, includes the Grand Prix Commission.
'scuppers off with tail between legs'
Would it not have been easier/cheaper to lease prototype engines instead of using production derived engines with a few mods in the hope that the CRT's can run with the factory machines?
Probably not,
If you were to let teams use 1000cc 4s or 1200cc twins there is a lot of manufactures to choose from. Then each team can modify as they like (and use their engineering skill....) There are only 3 supliers of current spec, expensive motoGP engines, they can charge what they want.
In which case a satellite bike is not a "prototype". Arguably, neither is a Honda or Yamaha, as they are just refinements of existing designs.
Absolutely not. There will be 22 or 24 bikes on the grid, and 24 is the maximum size that Ezpeleta is willing to allow.
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Yup and ive been saying this for years. Imo the only prototype on the grid was the dog factory Ducati
Prototype racing vanished years ago really when the likes of the Duel wishbone elf, norton rotory ect finished and all bike ended up the same with a different badge on the tank.
I see,I`ve been watching the 1990`s 500cc seasons this week,guess it was wishful thinking.lol.
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Its a point i've been trying to make a couple of weeks now. With little progress.
(U hear me CRT dooms dayers?)
I thought the old 500cc was much lighter than present and yet also much cheaper. Is it just because a 500 two stroke engine is that much lighter than a 800 4 stroke?
Honda NSR500 Specifications
Engine : Liquid-cooled 2-stroke 90° V-4 Case Reed Valve
Displacement: 499.5cm[sup]3[/sup]
Max Power: over 140PS / 11,500rpm
Dry Weight: 119kg
6-Speed Transmission
A two stroke has no cylinder head to speak of.
How much do you think this thing weighs?
If selling the fans' time and money is questionable, MotoGP is finally getting its come-up-ins. The TV companies are slowly starting to realize how loosely the commercial rights companies grip our attention. TVE will no longer subsidize Dorna's margins with lucrative state-sponsored TV contracts. The same is true for the BBC and F1.
MotoGP fans once jeered all other motorsports fans for their lack of taste. MotoGP was unlimited and the racing was close b/c the 80/20 formula was everything, and no one liked 80/20 more than Rossi. Those days are long gone. We make fun of one another now, and F1 racing, the gold standard for sleep induction, is now a more compelling spectacle. The last 5 years have been a sensational reversal of fortunes, and the current state of MotoGP almost beggars belief.
Bikes still inspire passion. Small companies with no business in motorsports still gamble fortunes they don't have to build their own machines, including the engines. Whatever must be done to bring the passion of the 2-wheeled culture to the track, must be done. Dorna can sell the exuberance of motorcycle racing with or without a huge fanbase. Even the most cynical corporate shill can watch a close motorcycle race and feel the attraction. When the media companies buy into your product, everything gets easier.
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so did i get that right that 2013 is likely to be the year for spec ecus?if thats the case, will this mean the end of the factories? i'm no expert but if the bore limit works to cap the revs to around 16000rpm and the crts are given an extra 3 liters of fuel i can't see the facotries continuing if they lose their one trump card that is superior rider aids/engine management systems
so did i get that right that 2013 is likely to be the year for spec ecus?if thats the case, will this mean the end of the factories? i'm no expert but if the bore limit works to cap the revs to around 16000rpm and the crts are given an extra 3 liters of fuel i can't see the facotries continuing if they lose their one trump card that is superior rider aids/engine management systems
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yup plus they wont be able to lease bikes if ezy gets his way.
Damn i cant wait for next seasons soap opera
2013 should see the introduction of spec ECUs and a rev limit. It won't mean the end of the factories, as they have nowhere else to race, with the possible exception of Ducati. WSBK offers the factories even less grip over the rules, so no joy there. Only GP offers the prestige (rightly or wrongly) that the factories want.
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