Joined Feb 2008
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Outback Steakhouse
Well Philip my son, there is only one all powerful being. When I said God, I meant
G - Greatest
O - On the
D - Day
Well Philip my son, there is only one all powerful being. When I said God, I meant
G - Greatest
O - On the
D - Day
Joined Apr 2011
1K Posts | 87+
Pangea
Well done Dani....awesome win and very entertaining last few laps. Hope he can bag the title this year and silence the doubters as he has copped a lot of unfair criticism over his entire MGP career.
Joined Aug 2007
11K Posts | 3K+
Pomona NY
Am I the only one who thought Dani's whole strategy looked a lot like it came right out of Stoner's playbook?
Joined Apr 2011
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Pangea
Not so sure about that Kesh....Stoner has been pretty one dimensional throughout his career....ie go REALLY fast and try to win every race, which is why I love watching him as he is a racer in the purest sense - but it is also this philosophy that has cost him dearly when it comes to championships....this year being a prime example and Sachsenring was a very costly mistake that in hindsight he should probably not have made.
Stoner in the past two seasons also had the luxury of riding a far more predictable handling bike and that has allowed him options that weren't previously available while riding the Ducati - it has been this more than anything that has allowed him to better plan his attacks and give him some options re: race stategy....as opposed to getting to the front and pushing at 100% to stay there.
I also think Pedro has had misfortune at the wrong time every year he has competed in the Premiere class...if the luck had have gone his way on a few occasions he could very well have a title by now....even last year he could have walked away with the championship but the luck went Casey's way (Stoner was lucky to get away with a few highsides that could have had serious repercussions for his title chase - this year that run of luck ended).
At the end of the day I just reckon Pedro knew he had better drive up the hill and exploited that advantage to get past Jorge when it mattered...a good race strategy and it all worked out for him. If Dani can pile the pressure back on Jorge he may make a mistake himself (rare these days) and open up a window of opportunity that Pedro can then exploit.
Dani has definitely shown that he wont go down without a fight (moreso this year than before perhaps) and I for one hope he can do it. The three Aliens are all very worthy of a world title...but It is not always decided by skill alone.
man, come on, you re talking like you think i show some kind of disrespect towards ben
this crash was a mistake, no matter how much he tried before, the bike doesnt drop you down by itself
he probably lost it cause he was putting a lot of effort. that doesnt mean the crash wasnt his fault
de puniet for some reason didnt get a quite competitive bike. but i didnt say he had a competitive bike. jumkie said he deserves a prototype, and i said he had already one for much time
who's bike should he take? smith's? yeah, ok. but there are other 5-6 riders or so who deserve that bike more than both smith or rdp.
Joined Feb 2008
2K Posts | 0+
home
Nice race by Lorenzo and Pedrosa, very entertaining. Other than that, it was a bit painful to watch such a depleted grid. Oh well, next time we'll have the fabulous Johnny Rea making up the numbers....and probably taking out half of what's left of the field in the first corner.
Joined Oct 2006
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Your Mom's House
Finally, a post I can agree with in its entirety. Btw, if he doen't accomplish his goal in the first corner, you can bet he will continue to attempt it the rest of the race. He will not be denied his destiny to murder another rider.
Joined Oct 2006
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Your Mom's House
Kesh and I both understood what you meant (don't revise it now as benign). On Spies, yes, he was at the controls during the crash, but his bike was ....... Context Billy. That bike has been ...... day in day out. That is to say, not all self-inflicted crashes are created equal. Ah, maybe I'm wasting my time...again.
Regarding DePuniet. Again, as Kesh has correctly pointed out. You can do only so much on the package given. Wasn't it you who was arguing for Rossi while downgrading Nicky on the nearly same "factory" machine? Employing so shifty logic perhaps? DePuniet deserves at very least a sat bike (hell, the way the seats got handed out, I wouldn't put it past him deserving a 'factory' bike given some rider's demands.) Again, you glossed over it before, but he matched Alvaro's best times on a one-day Suzuki test (ironically, a "factory" bike). So, at minimum, give the Frenchy Alvaro's seat. Its not like the series doesn't have enough welfare-Spanish riders already.
Joined Jun 2007
10K Posts | 1K+
Norah Head
No, I'd agree. But also did anyone notice Dani steering with the back end a few times!!
I heard from somewhere else his style in Brno was a little bit "Stoner ish" and he made the rear spin more just like you said. The term Pedrobot really fits the guy. He looks mentally slow in life but when it comes to racing his brain works like a robot calculating, adapting and switching styles. I heard he did the same when he came to the GP class. His 250 style was a lot more different than the way he rides now. It was more european and "MiniMoto ish".
Joined Aug 2008
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Thailand
[font=comic sans ms,cursive]Pedro will win the WC if he follow CS’s strategy from now on, but can he or will he be allowed to be? JLo Yamaha are too smart for that and will make amends in the next GP to put the HRC Repsol team out of their misery with that mishandling tyre sensitive out of sorts HRC. Go JLo you are certainty for the 2012 WC![/font]
Joined Jun 2007
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UK
Dani is within striking distance of the title....he hasnt been this close and healthy since coming to MotoGP.....The one major advantage Dani will be Casey himself if Dani can keep close and get ahead in title chase between now and Casey's return. Casey is a teammate that can help Dani take points away from JLo, where as right now JLo has to 80% dependent on himself with a little help from Cal, Dovi and Spies. None of them though can consistently beat Dani (and one of which cant even beat Rossi but that is besides the point), while Stoner can beat JLo consistenly. If Dani can hang in there close enough, and get ahead of JLo by the time Casey returns then Dani will be champion in 2012. The title oming down to the wire, and Casey is going to decide the champion this year.
I am a JLo fan not a Dani one, but i do think Dani now has the package (bike, teammate, health) together and momentum with him.
maybe, but i dont think he cares too much. (why would he?) he has few races left. i think he ll try to win them all, and he will, at least the last two i guess. if that helps someone, so be it. i believe though casey has a better relation with lorenzo than with dani
jumkie, thanks for wasting your time replying to me man heheh. i think you believe you know everything, at least when it comes to racing. and the truth man is that all of us know .... and just spend our time here talking for fun for something we love. you dont have to take everything very seriously you know.
of course i might be wrong, and you re involved somehow
now as you say, not all crashes are equal, but that doesnt change the fact they are riders' fault
as for randy, again, i said before too that the guy is fast, but he crashes too much. can you say it is not true? maybe for you its not so important, cause you re not the one paying to fix the bike i guess.
would you trust him a good bike that easily? he has a reputation for a reason. he rides a .... crt for a reason. speed is not the only thing, or else casey would be 6 times champion.
if you were a team manager for any team, would you prefer rdp from cal,nicky,ben? dovi maybe? bradl? who? rossi perhaps. no. rossi for sure
Joined Aug 2007
11K Posts | 3K+
Pomona NY
I think you're talking about the old Stoner. I'm recalling Laguna Seca 2011 where he toyed with Lorenzo till the end of the lap and then breezed off at will.
He did that again recently to save the softer tire that he wasn't happy with and at the end effortlessly pulled away from Lorenzo in the closing lap. I think
Dani is learning he can save his tires for the end of the race instead of taking off and disappearing like he used to do. Much more strategic.
Joined Feb 2007
6K Posts | 58+
Rovrum S,Yorks Eng
Bens Fool Pies The Twitter convo is suggesting this
Ben Spies for the Ducati Jnr team alongside Andrea Iannone.
It's going to be Pramac with a two rider team.Ben will be riding a factory version
Redding to Gresini
??
if correct Ben is one sucker for punishment
Ben Spies for the Ducati Jnr team alongside Andrea Iannone.
It's going to be Pramac with a two rider team.Ben will be riding a factory version
Redding to Gresini
??
if correct Ben is one sucker for punishment
Joined Feb 2007
11K Posts | 2K+
Tennessee
I read this quote, and it summarizes the reasons i love Moto GP, and on the other hand makes some people call it boring
[size="-1"]Both men considered they had made mistakes on the last lap. Dani said he tried to hard to counter the Yamaha's corner speed and left a gap; Jorge said he made a mistake coming up the hill and leaving Dani the room to go to the inside for the final chicane. That's what decides a MotoGP race at this level: to these guys a race-deciding mistake is going a foot off-line once in a 45-minutes spent at lap-record pace.[/size]
The pursuit of perfection in bike and rider is what separates GP from other series. Is it expensive, .... ya it is, but damn its beautiful to watch. When Pedrosa was coming out of the esses with the front wheel just skipping the ground in a dirt bike counter steer style , i just sat there and said wow, what would that feel like. Then you have the Yamaha which never seems to flinch, and you say wow, what would that be like.
[size="-1"]Both men considered they had made mistakes on the last lap. Dani said he tried to hard to counter the Yamaha's corner speed and left a gap; Jorge said he made a mistake coming up the hill and leaving Dani the room to go to the inside for the final chicane. That's what decides a MotoGP race at this level: to these guys a race-deciding mistake is going a foot off-line once in a 45-minutes spent at lap-record pace.[/size]
The pursuit of perfection in bike and rider is what separates GP from other series. Is it expensive, .... ya it is, but damn its beautiful to watch. When Pedrosa was coming out of the esses with the front wheel just skipping the ground in a dirt bike counter steer style , i just sat there and said wow, what would that feel like. Then you have the Yamaha which never seems to flinch, and you say wow, what would that be like.
Good race by both dani and jorge. I agree dani must be a chance for the championship now, particularly if stoner can get between him and jorge (meaning with dani in front) in the odd race as you say. The hrc bike certainly looks quite competitive now.