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BRNO Czech Rep GP 2012: RACE

sewarion said:
probably because one of the others handed him his ... over in most previous races, outscoring him in overall points and by podiums (5 vs 1, fyi). anyway, good that Cal could break his duck. fast all weekend, great job. maybe now that things are settled for him for 2013 he can focus on the job and keep the level till the end of the season.
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The other one of those does NOT deserve the factory ride.....he has been handed his ... by Cal all year.....yet the powers that be put pressure / intimidated Ducati into keeping the KY 'jelly' kid over Cal.....It is all a conspiracy damn it
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MigsAngel said:
The other one of those does NOT deserve the factory ride.....he has been handed his ... by Cal all year.....yet the powers that be put pressure / intimidated Ducati into keeping the KY 'jelly' kid over Cal.....It is all a conspiracy damn it
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They are riding different bikes and that Yamaha is the better one of the two.



Besides, it's good for Cal that he isn't on his way to destroy his career on the Ducati.
 
really exciting finish and a great ride by dani. Lorenzo fought well but kept his head and picked up 20 valuable points.

Fantastic to have a brit on the podium, anyone notice both Tech 3 bikes ran out of fuel.

Looks like Ben cooked his clutch launching off the line, a season to forget for ben i think.

Strange Rossi's bike smoking like an old Fiat, consistent 7th.
 
MigsAngel said:
I dont blame him....It is just becoming laughable the number of reasons he fails to finish, and no he isnt to blame his crew is to blame....starting with his crew chief.....it is a team effort isnt it....

Of course Spies wont blame his crew.....

However, even when his bike works well he doesnt....
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Easy observation to make from the relive comfort of your armchair
 
Great race, little Pedro may give us a good end to the season and congrats to Cal on his podium. Does anyone know if all the up and coming testing will be public? Jlo is gonna be trying out the 2013 Yam and I'm sure Honda are gonna be updating their bike.
 
MigsAngel said:
I dont blame him....It is just becoming laughable the number of reasons he fails to finish, and no he isnt to blame his crew is to blame....starting with his crew chief.....it is a team effort isnt it....

Of course Spies wont blame his crew.....

However, even when his bike works well he doesnt....
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Doesn't anyone think it's odd that the Spies crew worked just fine when he was on the satellite bike, but since going to the better bike which is not so drastically different, and with greater direct support from the factory - have all of sudden become his downfall? Folks need to bare in mind it's not really possible to dump your whole crew mid-season and just scoop up a new, more competent crew.



Just for fun - I'd love to see Spies back next year with Stoner's ex-crew running the show and see if that indeed would make the difference.



In all events - the run of bad luck over these last two seasons, between the ....... helmet malfunction and blistered tires etc, how many riders would be able to keep totally confident? Doesn't help having some Yamaha exec tell him try harder or don't show up. WTF kind of support is that? And talk of ...... luck, same can be said for Nicky after repeatedly being rear-ended before reaching turn one and other acts of fate that would have most normal people wanting to be on high doses of antidepressants. Yet he's consistently been the Ducati rider (bar Stoner) with the most points per finished races of the whole lot.
 
Arrabbiata1 said:
Finally Dani gets a bike this year that allows him to ride the way he wants and is capable of. HRC have evidently sorted the corner entry woes since Laguna. I still believe that the Yamaha is the better all round package and that Jorge is the most complete rider of the two. The RCV still looks to be more of a handful than the M1.



Enthralling race.
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Have to say it, but I was impressed with Pedrosa. He won that race fair and square, and it should go down as his best win ever. The only caveat of course, he is on the best machine in the paddock (however small that margin may be, RCV>M1), and it happened in the absence of a healthy Casey Stoner. Nonetheless, Pedros gave it all he had to buffer Lorenzo's onslaught at the end, and he won. Of course, I would have preferred Lorenzo to win this one, but he got beat on the track, cleanly, ultimately by a calm and unflustered Pedrosa. This has got to play with Lorenzo's head now, as he looked very unsettled after the race. That last lap had Catalunya written all over it, which is what Carmelo must have been thinking too considering he negotiated the signing of Rossi to factory Yamaha. Now Lorenzo will face a challenge for this season, and has Rossi to look forward to next season (anybody thinking VR will be #2 status hasn't been paying attention to MotoVR or is plumb dumb).



Lorenzo, he didn't settle for 20 points, he was forced to settle for 20 points. At least he put up a great fight and gave us something to raise the heart rate about.



Congrats to Cal Crutchlow for his podium today. (Yea for all my Brits friends.)











Not really impressed with anybody else. But here are a few mentionables:



Spies' team and some of the higher ups should be taken out the back and shot. .... clutch and he then hurried up to close the gap and made a mistake. The difference between the two factory Yamahas is an embarrassment to the brand. He is obviously the second best rider on a Yamaha, but has nothing to show for it except being sodomized by the gutless peeps responsible for his mechanical failures.



Valentino Rossi comes in at a comfortable 7th. Lame and shameful. I expect him to challenge for the title next year. Bail out. WWF=MotoVR.



Randy Depuniet deserves a "prototype" machine. Certainly passed over by the satellite teams for tokens. As Dovi said, this is not a meritocracy.



Abraham, finally finished a home GP. I suppose that is a victory. As much as I like the guy, its his fault for resigned with a Duc machine.



Get well: Nicky, Casey, and Hector.



(Had fun hanging out with a few buddies drinking beers having our own little private meet-up. No absinthe, thank God. So I woke up fresh as a daisy.)



Barry>....
 
Jumkie said:
Have to say it, but I was impressed with Pedrosa. He won that race fair and square, and it should go down as his best win ever. The only caveat of course, he is on the best machine in the paddock (however small that margin may be, RCV>M1), and it happened in the absence of a healthy Casey Stoner. Nonetheless, Pedros gave it all he had to buffer Lorenzo's onslaught at the end, and he won. Of course, I would have preferred Lorenzo to win this one, but he got beat on the track, cleanly, ultimately by a calm and unflustered Pedrosa. This has got to play with Lorenzo's head now, as he looked very unsettled after the race. That last lap had Catalunya written all over it, which is what Carmelo must have been thinking too considering he negotiated the signing of Rossi to factory Yamaha. Now Lorenzo will face a challenge for this season, and has Rossi to look forward to next season (anybody thinking VR will be #2 status hasn't been paying attention to MotoVR or is plumb dumb).



Lorenzo, he didn't settle for 20 points, he was forced to settle for 20 points. At least he put up a great fight and gave us something to raise the heart rate about.



Congrats to Cal Crutchlow for his podium today. (Yea for all my Brits friends.)











Not really impressed with anybody else. But here are a few mentionables:



Spies' team and some of the higher ups should be taken out the back and shot. .... clutch and he then hurried up to close the gap and made a mistake. The difference between the two factory Yamahas is an embarrassment to the brand. He is obviously the second best rider on a Yamaha, but has nothing to show for it except being sodomized by the gutless peeps responsible for his mechanical failures.



Valentino Rossi comes in at a comfortable 7th. Lame and shameful. I expect him to challenge for the title next year. Bail out. WWF=MotoVR.



Randy Depuniet deserves a "prototype" machine. Certainly passed over by the satellite teams for tokens. As Dovi said, this is not a meritocracy.



Abraham, finally finished a home GP. I suppose that is a victory. As much as I like the guy, its his fault for resigned with a Duc machine.



Get well: Nicky, Casey, and Hector.



(Had fun hanging out with a few buddies drinking beers having our own little private meet-up. No absinthe, thank God. So I woke up fresh as a daisy.)



Barry>....
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Agree 100% - and yeah, I think the new Honda may well be the machine of choice if you can tame it - certainly what Dani has been pining for all season.



No disrespect to Dani, not to steal his thunder - the gradient in the last sector sealed this race. Lorenzo looks stronger to me.
 
Finally good battle. I was really impressed with Pedrosa. He is fast, and if he manages to put up a fight, he is definitely for a championship challange.

One major difference from Catelunya vs VR, today Lorenzo made a mistake in the final corner, going in too deep, allowing Pedrosa to pass. In Catelunya it was a master move from Rossi that won the race.
 
Jumkie said:
The only caveat of course, he is on the best machine in the paddock (however small that margin may be, RCV>M1), and it happened in the absence of a healthy Casey Stoner.
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well i d also say that margin is very small

last year, it was much more obvious

casey was not racing today because of a mistake he made

and casey won the championship last year in the absence of a healthy dani pedrosa too

injuries are part of the game

lorenzo's championship happened in the absence of a healthy valentino rossi, and a healthy dani pedrosa

so for me dani today was just smarter than jorge, and won

we shouldnt take anything away from him



lorenzo doesnt care so much for rossi, things like catalunya 2009 as you say, wont happen again i think

the treatment will be equal, but jorge is no1 rider in the team, i dont think rossi can be much of a threat for the championship now

how can you expect him to do that when he finishes a shameful 7th? and why 7th is a shameful place?

as for ben, i know he has the worst year of his life, and its unbelievable what happens to him. but today, the crash was no bad luck or bad clutch. it was his mistake and only

and randy, why does he deserve a prototype? he was riding prototypes for years. what did he do? who are the other crt or not riders he beats? espargaro? abraham? he is obviously faster than all these guys.. he deserves one good sbk ride. not a prototype.
 
Great RACE! Best of the season, probably the best since Catalunya 09. Great for the sport, who needs Stoner, Hayden and Hector? I kid, bones, I kid.......



Dani, I'm actually now hoping he can get it this year........



Spies WTF? Forget 100%, Best not to turn up at all at present.



Rossi? Useless, from comments, POS duck sprayed oil all over his boots and rear tyre, and probably Spies. Ducati, what are you doing?
 
bill88 said:
well i d also say that margin is very small

last year, it was much more obvious

casey was not racing today because of a mistake he made

and casey won the championship last year in the absence of a healthy dani pedrosa too

injuries are part of the game

lorenzo's championship happened in the absence of a healthy valentino rossi, and a healthy dani pedrosa

so for me dani today was just smarter than jorge, and won

we shouldnt take anything away from him



lorenzo doesnt care so much for rossi, things like catalunya 2009 as you say, wont happen again i think

the treatment will be equal, but jorge is no1 rider in the team, i dont think rossi can be much of a threat for the championship now

how can you expect him to do that when he finishes a shameful 7th? and why 7th is a shameful place?

as for ben, i know he has the worst year of his life, and its unbelievable what happens to him. but today, the crash was no bad luck or bad clutch. it was his mistake and only

and randy, why does he deserve a prototype? he was riding prototypes for years. what did he do? who are the other crt or not riders he beats? espargaro? abraham? he is obviously faster than all these guys.. he deserves one good sbk ride. not a prototype.
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Ever tried making a rush from 14th place toward the front on a prototype bike with with a ...... clutch? Hmmm... didn't think so. He was braving it out on screwed up bike to try and make a few points. Credit where credit is due.



Where were you the one year DePuniet was on a competitive bike? The year on the Playboy Honda showed he has skills. As Rossi has shown, you can only do so much on a .... bike.
 
Keshav said:
Ever tried making a rush from 14th place toward the front on a prototype bike with with a ...... clutch? Hmmm... didn't think so. He was braving it out on screwed up bike to try and make a few points. Credit where credit is due.
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http://www.crash.net/motogp/news/183264/1/spies_rotten_luck_continues_at_brno.html



[font=verdana, arial]&ldquo;The race was really over for me before turn one because the clutch overheated off the line,&rdquo; he added.[/font]

[font=verdana, arial]&ldquo;It was no one's fault; we checked the data and my practice starts are identical to my race starts."[/font]

[font=verdana, arial]Checks later showed the clutch on Spies' YZR-M1 had not been faulty.[/font]

[font=verdana, arial]&ldquo;We checked the clutch and there is nothing wrong with it, it just overheated and took over two laps to cool down enough to give it 100% by which time the race was over," he said.[/font]

[font=verdana, arial]&ldquo;I still tried to get the best out of it I could and just made a small mistake.&rdquo;[/font]



Spies made the error at start, and it cost him...then HE made a small mistake and dropped it.....
 
Just watched the race.

I missed all the practices and Q because Ive been prepping for another overhyped hurricane that currently is pelting me.

Im wondering why that weak ankled ....... Stoner didnt race this weekend. Maybe that colic acted up again



Congratulations to Jorge Lorenzo for another stellar win.
 

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