Joined Jul 2006
11K Posts | 291+
Texas
I don't even slightly agree with you, but that is hardly surprising. The point is though, the only riders who are really clear cut in that list is Bradl & Marquez, and i'm pretty sure they'll get to motogp without too much trouble or delay.
Joined Feb 2007
11K Posts | 2K+
Tennessee
Clear cut for what, making it to GP, or being a success in GP. You really think Bradley Smith is going to be a better Moto Gp rider than a guy who has finished 2nd in the Moto Gp world championship. Put it this way, if you owned a Moto Gp team, and its very existence depended on finishing in the top 5-6 in 2013, would you pick Bradley Smith over everyone on that list, as your rider to save your team.
Joined Apr 2011
1K Posts | 87+
Pangea
Clear cut for being as good future prospects in motogp as Smith. The scenario you've just painted might be interesting, but not relevant as it does not reflect the circumstances we are dealing with.
well whether or not Iannone, DeAngelis or Corsi would be a better prospect in motogp is debatable, each with their respective pro's and cons, taking riders from superbike, especially older ones or riders who have already been through and out of the GP paddock is even more unpredictable. I'm not saying the Smith is definitely the best choice because it is so difficult to say, but chosing him is far from a random long shot or a poor choice.
Joined Apr 2011
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Pangea
I agree, we are speculating completely. I don't think Smith is a sure thing in motogp or anything like that, but i resent people saying he is unworthy.
Joined Feb 2007
11K Posts | 2K+
Tennessee
Joined Jul 2007
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unda cheese
He,s clearly the next token pom, clearing the way for Crutchlows exit in the next 2 years. I wish him all the best, but he is not a tier 1 rider. I can,t think of how many races I have watched where I have cheered for him, only to end up disappointed. Give me Marquez, Bradl, Iannone any day...................
No it isn't relevant because you painted a picture where anything other than top 6 immediately is total failure. You have totally disregarded the long game, you have negated rider/bike development you have totally overlooked all the other factors that make a good GP rider like work ethic, commitment, team chemistry, sponsorship value and financial viability. You can pretend these things are shouldn't matter but they do and have done for a long long time. Winning speaks louder than anything but there are little more than 4 guys who can actually do that in motogp so once you've failed to sign one of them you have to look at everything else.
Joined Jul 2008
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Tweed Valley Australia
[font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]I have this new theory, yes a new and improved approach to the herculean issue...[/font]
[font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]There are already too many slow guys not taking risks in motogp. [/font]
[font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]AND we have an ongoing issue with boredom (that I don't have) BUT the natives do get restless from time-to-time. And moto2 seems to have the cure. [/font]
[font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]SO we move guys like Smith et al (moto2) up into motogp. [/font]
[font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]We just don't let them hang around and stagnate if they don't cut the mustard.[/font]
[font="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"]So move Smith up, he either does it or he doesn't and if he doesn't put someone else in there who will have a crack. [/font]
[font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]There are already too many slow guys not taking risks in motogp. [/font]
[font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]AND we have an ongoing issue with boredom (that I don't have) BUT the natives do get restless from time-to-time. And moto2 seems to have the cure. [/font]
[font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]SO we move guys like Smith et al (moto2) up into motogp. [/font]
[font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]We just don't let them hang around and stagnate if they don't cut the mustard.[/font]
[font="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"]So move Smith up, he either does it or he doesn't and if he doesn't put someone else in there who will have a crack. [/font]
Why does Smith get so much coverage? More than he deserves.
Win a race you red headed ....... then you deserve threads about you.
Iannone, Marquez & Bradl are the names that should be in the title of this thread.
Win a race you red headed ....... then you deserve threads about you.
Iannone, Marquez & Bradl are the names that should be in the title of this thread.
Joined Jun 2006
2K Posts | 20+
south wales UK
Is there a reason why Bradl should be fast tracked? Besides the desirability of his passport, looking at his record so far in the lower classes, it's kind of ho-hum until his break out this year.
Joined Feb 2007
11K Posts | 2K+
Tennessee
Honestly no, but compared to Smith, he has at least had a break out year. Thats why i listed the riders i did that are much more qualified. As far as im concerned, Marquez, and Iannone would be my first 2 choices to move up from Moto 2, but GP is looking at passports, not performance. It would have suited Dorna just fine if Marquez had not caught fire and Bradl had cruised to the title.. I would also be looking at Marco Melandri if i owned a GP team.
Joined Jul 2008
2K Posts | 14+
Tweed Valley Australia
You want to know how right that is?
I think that in judging a rider for motogp ANY prior Ducati time should be excluded. Makes Marco look pretty good right now.
Joined Feb 2008
3K Posts | 470+
Outback Steakhouse
I realise that Herve and Colin Edwards know far less about whats required of a motogp rider than all of us experts here on this forum, but they both felt Brad was more than ready to take the seat and deserved the first chance.
Do I agree or would I take one of the names ahead of Bradley...Perhaps
Do I agree or would I take one of the names ahead of Bradley...Perhaps
