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Ben Spies Best Rookie 2010

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Geez, that is pretty far reaching. Is there an award for that?
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It must be a daily award, i got one from him just the other day
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Heres to being number 1 Rog http://www.powerslide.net/forum/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/.....gif
 
Spies is an amazing talent. I have been a fan of his since AMA. He's had a great rookie year with a couple podiums and some great races. I am very curious to hear what his expectations and goals are for next year. I would put him down for trying to fight for wins at five or six races and maybe winning two or three. Definitely a top five contender. I don't think that he will be championship material next year as he still has a lot to learn. But he is one of the smartest racers out there and definitely never stops trying to learn and gather knowledge. I hope that he proves me wrong and is there in the end fighting for the title. Of course it is left to be seen what Yamaha will give him and if they show preference for Hohay. There is a lot of dynamics left to be ironed out.
 
Doesn't matter, im not the one trying to spout .... then to try to give it some value by claiming it was said by someone we don't know .Then believe there unbiased when there (supposed father) is the most out spoke bias prick in the eponymous internet troll syndicate
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Oh I'm pretty sure he would get "biased" pretty quick if he read a few words of your crap Reg.
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It must be a daily award, i got one from him just the other day
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Heres to being number 1 Rog http://www.powerslide.net/forum/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/.....gif





Daily!???



The title "ultimate Troll", or similar gets cried around a bit more than daily
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My bad, i thought i was special.
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You are special, as are we all who have taken out the "ultimateTroll" award
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Myself ..... I put Rossi's WC number to shame if he were to compare them with my BFUTA's Bopper Federation's Ultimate Troll Award.
 
Texans for the most part are very cool likable people
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Wait till my boy Big Ben Spies starts stuffing bikes inside
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he'll find some haters im sure
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Wait until he puts some hard moves on Vale. You won't know whether to .... or go blind.

You'll be like a kid from a broken home.
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You guys!



2011 will be all Stoner v's Spies ....... especially towards the end of the year.



Why ....... its the way Spies speaks of Stoner ...... I think Stoners riding has him entranced, but he's like a cat after prey trying to figure it out at present, but he will figure it out ...... then we will have some great riding from Spies.



Honda V's Yam



Stoner v's Spies





mark my words ...... but then throw them away if I'm wrong
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Well you should be flogged for first thinking its a cultural thing, being American is a bad word. Oh wait, MigsAngel is not around...
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Anyway, I've since accepted the production celebrations. Actually, I think it was Chops that softened me up on this idea as he sees it purely entertainment. But it’s the look at me that I still have a problem with. For example, its bothered me that Rossi didn’t take on the #1 plate, why? Because I felt it was disrespectful toward the traditions of the sport and it speaks to the “I’m above the sport” mentality. (Yes, I know, I must like all things otherwise I’m a “hater”, that’s the reasoning). But being a fan of dirt track, not taking the number one plate is tantamount to slapping its tradition in the face. Perhaps I simply need to learn that this is not the case in GP and I’m simply ignorant to the nuance of European culture. BTW, I don't think Lorenzo's celebrations are any more outrageous or dumb than Rossi, both are equally lame; the difference is I've since warmed up to both riders because of their amazing skill, precision and fortitude to come back from serious injury. Oh wow, did I just compliment them? Yeah, believe it or not, we can dislike certain aspects while still admiring the rider, unbelievable, eh? But honestly, its only a few that can't really understand and accept this not so complex concept. It also helps that when you meet them they don't act like some cartoon character.



Funny - I never thought this was particularly controversial. I always assumed - knowing how superstitious riders can be - that

there are some that will prefer to stick with the "Lucky Number" they had when fighting for the championship. Plus there's

a certain psycholgical pressure on a rider using the #1 plate - which can make less-than-stellar performances feel a bit

embarrassing - in the new season. I always just assumed having the number one plate on the bike all season as championship

hopes dwindled - must have made it particularly mortifying for both Nicky and Stoner.
 
Funny - I never thought this was particularly controversial. I always assumed - knowing how superstitious riders can be - that

there are some that will prefer to stick with the "Lucky Number" they had when fighting for the championship. Plus there's

a certain psycholgical pressure on a rider using the #1 plate - which can make less-than-stellar performances feel a bit

embarrassing - in the new season. I always just assumed having the number one plate on the bike all season as championship

hopes dwindled - must have made it particularly mortifying for both Nicky and Stoner.



Oh Keshav! Spies is using the "oldest trick in the book" to counter the "running of number 1" jinx.



ie. he's running 1 1 ....... and thats twice as bad
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I laugh but I've seen that mentality not far off that
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supersticious bunch they are.



The guys that run 111 are a shoe in
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Wait until he puts some hard moves on Vale. You won't know whether to .... or go blind.

You'll be like a kid from a broken home.
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Regarding your other point, put a list together of the names that have used the number one plate in the modern era.
 
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I know what you mean, he's very no nonesense isn't he. Just gets on with it, he doesn't really do anything wrong but i find him a little boring. II think he'll grow into himself a bit, but he's never gonna be an Edwards or a Hayden



Yeah, cos he's going to be SO much better.
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Actually, I personally was never a fan of the production celebrations. Only one guy was doing them in the big boy class, but when I saw Lorenzo do similar .... in 250s, it instantly turned me off. The problem is that one you critic even in the slightest Rossi, peeps go crazy thinking you "hate" the guy. But there are many redeeming qualities these riders have, and dressing up like a clown after you win isn't enough for me to dismiss them totally. The reason they irk me is because I think its intended to rub it in their competitors face, and I hate unsportsmanship. But some people don't see it like that; some just see it as entertainment. I think some of us can decipher who thinks its just lighthearted funny vs those that relish it as part of their cult ritual; the latter being the ones militant about the concept-you're either with us or against us, no in-between.



Anyway, I've since accepted the production celebrations. Actually, I think it was Chops that softened me up on this idea as he sees it purely entertainment. But it’s the look at me that I still have a problem with. For example, its bothered me that Rossi didn’t take on the #1 plate, why? Because I felt it was disrespectful toward the traditions of the sport and it speaks to the “I’m above the sport” mentality. (Yes, I know, I must like all things otherwise I’m a “hater”, that’s the reasoning). But being a fan of dirt track, not taking the number one plate is tantamount to slapping its tradition in the face. Perhaps I simply need to learn that this is not the case in GP and I’m simply ignorant to the nuance of European culture. BTW, I don't think Lorenzo's celebrations are any more outrageous or dumb than Rossi, both are equally lame; the difference is I've since warmed up to both riders because of their amazing skill, precision and fortitude to come back from serious injury. Oh wow, did I just compliment them? Yeah, believe it or not, we can dislike certain aspects while still admiring the rider, unbelievable, eh? But honestly, its only a few that can't really understand and accept this not so complex concept. It also helps that when you meet them they don't act like some cartoon character.



Jumkie i know what you mean about the celebrations, they are not just spontaneous expression of joy, they are planned before the races. That requires a certain level of arrogance. But I find them quite entertaining, and i like to see the sport being as human as possible unlike F1 which is incredibly stale. All in all i like them, but i'm glad not everyone does them.



Yes I agree that 5th was probably where he could have expected to finish in his first year if he had a great year however once Dovi received the Pedropack for his Honda, it really wasn't achievable (I do acknowledge that he can still get there).

Spies is good under brakes, good on old tyres, good in a battle, the first 4-5 laps will come to him. That's really just a bit more experience and being on the right equipment to push hard enough at the start.



The important thing is that he has been head and shoulders ahead of Colin Edwards when both have been injury free and on the same equipment.



I don't think Spies being a little behind in the first few laps is a major worry. That will come with experience, the important thing is he hasn't been having cold tyre high sides and broken a load of bones, we've seen what that does
 
Unfortunately, thats proberbly about the time I'll start disliking him.

I cant seem to help myself. Once they start giving Rossi any hassle I find myself turning against them.

Same thing each season..Stoner, hayden etc and now Lorenzo.

What can I say, I'm a shallow, complicated person



Are you verging on the realms of `bopperism` Sprog?
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I don't think Spies being a little behind in the first few laps is a major worry. That will come with experience, the important thing is he hasn't been having cold tyre high sides and broken a load of bones, we've seen what that does



Knock on wood
 

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