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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BigAl @ Aug 13 2009, 05:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>i know its not motogp but do you remember this?
CV first contested WSB on a ten kate fireblade in 2004. HRC had won the title with CEII the previous year on a SP2. in 2004 wsb went to single tyre supplier pirelli and because of this, HRC pulled all factory support for the series.
so, CV and Ten Kate started on a virtually stock cbr1000 with absolutely no data from previous years. the only plus was that CV had raced most of the tracks already the previous year in WSS.
so. by the end of the 2004 season, he and TK had managed to get into a position to be able to win races and the season if other results had gone their way, it didnt happen but thats racing.
then, in 2005, the GSX-RK5 hit the world race tracks and blew away almost everyone. the ten kate honda and CV were the only ones able to keep in touch with troy corser and it again came down to the last round of the season where due to pissing rain and a flooded track, CV conceded to troy because he had said it was to dangerous to ride. not bad for what was a satellite team and bike that was developed by CV and Ronald Ten Kate. yes, TK is a genius with hondas but remember that there was no factory support for them at all and it was a singlew bike team in 2004 to boot!
^ it may look like i am a CV fanboy, not true, i just like to set the record straight where i can and will do so for any rider who i feel has been slighted/underestimated.
i just hope that he does get an opportunity to show us all what he is capable of before we write him off as "another WSB rider who couldnt cut it...."
Like I said before, I'm a fan of CV's and think he is underrated by many. I can see your point with his work at Ten Kate but that team is still thriving even without him, although they now receive more help from Honda. I'm not discounting what he did there but I think Ten Kate deserve the lion's share of the credit. Like I said, I'm a fan of his but the Suzuki has not been as competitive as it was in 2007 when Hopkins was in charge of development. Maybe that's because of Suzuki (and I'm sure that it's a major factor, maybe they got lucky with the bike in 2007 and everyone else has caught up now, maybe they don't listen to him. I don't know. I just feel like if he had the developmental skills then the Suzuki would be closer to the front by now.
CV first contested WSB on a ten kate fireblade in 2004. HRC had won the title with CEII the previous year on a SP2. in 2004 wsb went to single tyre supplier pirelli and because of this, HRC pulled all factory support for the series.
so, CV and Ten Kate started on a virtually stock cbr1000 with absolutely no data from previous years. the only plus was that CV had raced most of the tracks already the previous year in WSS.
so. by the end of the 2004 season, he and TK had managed to get into a position to be able to win races and the season if other results had gone their way, it didnt happen but thats racing.
then, in 2005, the GSX-RK5 hit the world race tracks and blew away almost everyone. the ten kate honda and CV were the only ones able to keep in touch with troy corser and it again came down to the last round of the season where due to pissing rain and a flooded track, CV conceded to troy because he had said it was to dangerous to ride. not bad for what was a satellite team and bike that was developed by CV and Ronald Ten Kate. yes, TK is a genius with hondas but remember that there was no factory support for them at all and it was a singlew bike team in 2004 to boot!
^ it may look like i am a CV fanboy, not true, i just like to set the record straight where i can and will do so for any rider who i feel has been slighted/underestimated.
i just hope that he does get an opportunity to show us all what he is capable of before we write him off as "another WSB rider who couldnt cut it...."
Like I said before, I'm a fan of CV's and think he is underrated by many. I can see your point with his work at Ten Kate but that team is still thriving even without him, although they now receive more help from Honda. I'm not discounting what he did there but I think Ten Kate deserve the lion's share of the credit. Like I said, I'm a fan of his but the Suzuki has not been as competitive as it was in 2007 when Hopkins was in charge of development. Maybe that's because of Suzuki (and I'm sure that it's a major factor, maybe they got lucky with the bike in 2007 and everyone else has caught up now, maybe they don't listen to him. I don't know. I just feel like if he had the developmental skills then the Suzuki would be closer to the front by now.