From your own article - which you said that I ignored, I once again present the following extracts:
"As you can see here, I have hit my braking point and have started to initiate the ritual of events.
Braking, downshifting and dragging the rear brake slightly"
"Depending on how tight the turn is that you are approaching,
you may need to go from fourth or high gear all the way down to second and possibly first"
"The idea is to
bang down your gears and control the rear wheel action with the clutch".
Now lets compare that with what I said:
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Arrabbiata1 @ Apr 9 2010, 11:21 AM)
<{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I said that backing into a corner was on the
approach, on the
downshift, with the throttle shut or blipped to match the revs when changing down, (although this is not so necessary with the advent of rider aids).
The back brake is often also used to scrub speed or for stability, or to even initiate or increase the slide. I have also stated repeatedly that it is down to rider discretion. Some use only the front, and will tend to as Tom correctly says, elevate the rear wheel, others snake the rear like BBoz, and others produced full on slides with it like the late Craig Jones. I
am not prescribing use of the rear brake, I am merely pointing out and illustrating that it is nonetheless a technique in backing a bike in.
You have become so fixated on the rear brake and your 'kids skids' taunt, that you have completely overlooked the other thing you lampooned...the downshift. For nearly two months now, you have repeatedly stated on this forum that this is not relevant to backing a bike in..yet we keep asking you.......
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (chopperman @ Apr 6 2010, 01:09 PM)
<{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>But what about the gears then berry ?
Yet again you have ignored the downshift which you originally said was not integral to backing in - yet you are so astoundingly dim what you have posted a link to an article twice now which confirms what everyone has been trying to explain to you. When you are reminded of this, you just gloss over it - yet as I pointed out before when you first posted this link -although you said I ignored it (an allegation which I asked you to provide evidence of - which of course you didn't), your own evidence mentions backing in, and even using the rear brake as an aid to stability. Yes I concede that this also warns against the misconceptions and/or dangers of initiating a slide with the rear, but all I am saying is that there are plenty of riders that do because they are that skillful. I also provided at least half a dozen articles which in fact
do reference the rear as an aid to sliding. The same writer or an instructor would doubtless also warn against trailing the front brake into an apex for instance, but racers do because UNLIKE YOU OR I they are that skillful. I would also venture that if you approached this guy and told him you yourself have been teaching all your life but you ride a Ducati 749s that slides with ease upon shutting the throttle - because after all that's supposedly normal for a high displacement Ducati, the response you'd get would be remarkably similar to the one given by everyone on this forum.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BarryMachine @ Apr 9 2010, 12:40 PM)
<{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Here's another thing to think about. The lower capacity bikes have brakes and gears, why don't you see the propensity to back it in?
You do - Toni used to do it on a 125 and a 250 as I have now stated twice, so did Julian Simon and with scant engine braking most of the slide was produced by the rear brake, but like I say that is rider preference. Why don't you read other peoples posts properly? As I keep repeating, I am not prescribing it.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Arrabbiata1 @ Apr 6 2010, 08:32 PM)
<{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>IT IS A TECHNIQUE THAT TONI USES - try to understand that. It is particular to some riders. As I've said, I remember him doing the same on a 250, just a Simon was doing last year in fact.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Arrabbiata1 @ Apr 3 2010, 06:38 PM)
<{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Even with the advent of a slipper clutch, the rear end is slung out and slides as a result of the downshift/engine braking - ironically the same mechanism that Barry purports to slide his Ducati - minus of course the downshift which he supposedly doesn't require. In addition to that, watch Elias and it's impossible to come to the conclusion that there is no rear braking involved. He and Simon used to slide a 250 in a similar way, and obviously the engine braking on a 2 stroke is practically non existent.
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There's the Elias vid again Barry - So you are saying that there is no rear brake or downshift involved? All you have said is that he ran deep. Yeah he did, but he's already started the slide - so the use of the rear is not as a consequence of running deep - although it may have been increased.
No one is claiming to do this on the road Barry - and I'm not saying that I would - although like I originally said two months ago, the closest many road riders would get to a slide would be through the rear brake in the absence of the skill to control a powerslide. YOU are the one that originally boasted about sliding on the road with ease when slowing for corners - which is what I questioned originally and is what spawned now four threads on this forum. You claim to accomplish this purely it would seem by shutting the throttle - which if it were true, would be an infinitely more dangerous proposition.
I'LL SAY IT AGAIN BERRY AND MAYBE IT WILL SINK IN. I DON'T CLAIM TO DO THIS ON THE ROAD (UNLIKE YOU) AND I AM NOT PRESCRIBING IT. ALL I AM SAYING IS THAT BACKING IN IS ACCOMPLISHED THROUGH THE DOWNSHIFT IN CONJUNCTION WITH FEATHERING OF THE CLUTCH.
SOME RACERS CHOOSE TO EMPLOY THE BACK BRAKE ALSO, TO VARYING DEGREES, AND I HAVE GIVEN YOU EXAMPLES OF THIS. YOU ARE THE ONLY ONE THAT CLAIMS WE SHOULD ALL BE OUT ON THE ROAD SLIDING A BIKE.
NOODLERIZER RACES IN AMA - PEOPLE ON HERE HAVE WATCHED HIM, AND HE HAS PROVIDED THREADS WHICH HAVE BEEN FASCINATING.
NOW PROVE THAT YOU ARE A QUALIFIED TEACHER - TELL US THE NAME OF YOUR RIDING SCHOOLS AND CUT THE ..... IF YOU HAD BEEN TEACHING ALL YOUR LIFE THERE'D BE LIMITLESS VIDEO FOOTAGE AT YOUR DISPOSAL, BUT WHEN CRAIG RESPECTFULLY ASKED FOR A CLIP OF YOU DOING WHAT YOU CLAIM TO BE ABLE TO DO ON A 749S YOU GAVE SOME FACETIOUS REPLY ABOUT NOT BEING ABLE TO RIDE AND FILM AT THE SAME TIME - .....
No one is telling you either how to ride, or suggesting that we are experts from watching videos you ...... They are merely presented to support a contention - as evidence. Noone on here has once stated that you should learn to ride from a book or a video, they are merely aids to tuition, hence the success of 'Twist of the Wrist'. No one has contended that they should substitute for riding. Do you coach riders in the classroom Berry? or is that a load of unnecessary crap as well that interferes with riding?
Go on then Berry - tell us the name of your schools -cause all we've seen so far is a dubious picture lifted off photobucket which is purportedly you, but you were too thick to realise that it showed on the link. Post a contact name and number so that I can enquire about your services, and post some examples of your modules or lesson plans as an instructor at any dirt school or track riding school would be able to do.
And finally answer this question, forget the rear brake for now. Do you finally accept that in all your posts on this matter you were in fact wrong, and that in line with the article you posted, the downshift is in fact a crucially important mechanism for backing a bike in. On the supermoto madness thread you repeatedly rubbished this suggestion, -I can post it if you wish. You then contradicted yourself in your eagerness to dismiss the use of the rear brake, failed to notice that the entire article was advocating the use of the downshift.
Your riding lessons must be much like your posts....as clear as pigshit
Matter of fact what would be the use? I have trainedmany "youngies" in aspects of competition riding ......... not one of them carried on like you. 
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