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Proud of the awesome new facility in my home state. Embarrassed by the price we paid to help a foreign company gain access to our sports market, and doubly embarrassed by the half-truths and deceptions required to get money out of the major events trust fund.



COTA was a good idea that was marred by political chicanery from the outset.
 
You guys don't know anything about the COTA project do you? No. Just two clowns watching a race on TV, and letting the hype veil Bernie's latest scheme to fleece taxpayers for billions of dollars. I'm glad you enjoyed watching the race on freeview TV. I'm paying for the race and the track whether I buy tickets or not.



What you don't understand is this is all part of Texas' grand scheme to be the biggest, richest, and most powerful state in the US. Most importantly, our politicians want to send a message about the importance of economic liberalism to New York and California. Obviously, this ambition makes them vulnerable when Uncle Bernie comes to town. His entire business model is predicated on the idea that economic productivity is something you can buy. So convenient. To whom to I make the check payable?
 
You guys don't know anything about the COTA project do you? No. Just two clowns watching a race on TV, and letting the hype veil Bernie's latest scheme to fleece taxpayers for billions of dollars. I'm glad you enjoyed watching the race on freeview TV. I'm paying for the race and the track whether I buy tickets or not.



What you don't understand is this is all part of Texas' grand scheme to be the biggest, richest, and most powerful state in the US. Most importantly, our politicians want to send a message about the importance of economic liberalism to New York and California. Obviously, this ambition makes them vulnerable when Uncle Bernie comes to town. His entire business model is predicated on the idea that economic productivity is something you can buy. So convenient. To whom to I make the check payable?



The Australian Labor Party. They need more money to piss against the wall.
 
You guys don't know anything about the COTA project do you?

Yep, it's a racing track.



No. Just two clowns watching a race on TV, and letting the hype veil Bernie's latest scheme to fleece taxpayers for billions of dollars.



Really? That's not really like Bernie. Somebody should have a quiet word in his ear.



I'm glad you enjoyed watching the race on freeview TV.

No. Didnt watch; actually was unaware it was on.



I'm paying for the race and the track whether I buy tickets or not.



You should really take up the freeview offer. won't cost you any extra.
 
Sorry guys. Been slammed ever since about the Wednesday before the race, but here are all of my 2012 USGP photo albums to date. Still working on my Sunday collection:





Wednesday...Fill 'er up, Fernando:

https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.549846445029905.138382.157330087614878&type=3



Thursday & Friday at COTA:

https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.552367118111171.138881.157330087614878&type=3



Saturday at COTA:

https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.552853051395911.138957.157330087614878&type=3
 
Lexicon is right about the crazy claims that have been and will be made in order to gain funding from the METF.
 
Lexicon is right about the crazy claims that have been and will be made in order to gain funding from the METF.



What do they need it for? I get the impression attendance was very good. (Google to the rescue! ~115K on race day, with and a total of ~250K over the weekend.) With the prices they were charging, they must have been able to pay the Troll his ransom and still have enough left to put a good sized dent in the construction loan.



Tex, do you have any idea of the moneys involved?
 
Sorry guys. Been slammed ever since about the Wednesday before the race, but here are all of my 2012 USGP photo albums to date. Still working on my Sunday collection:





Wednesday...Fill 'er up, Fernando:

https://www.facebook...87614878&type=3



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Hayden and 'some Australian guy' did that a few years ago in Spain.
 
Cheers Texas, thanks for sharing!

This thread has been a credit to yourself sir!

BRAVO!

I'll buy you a beer at the gp next year if your there
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ps Exceptional pic of Rosberg!
 
lil red rocket pilot
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Cheers Texas, thanks for sharing!

This thread has been a credit to yourself sir!

BRAVO!

I'll buy you a beer at the gp next year if your there ;)


ps Exceptional pic of Rosberg!


Thanks, I appreciate that!


 


BTW, check out this from SuperBikePlanet.com...


 


Great story:


 


http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2012/Dec/121228number132012.htm


 


 


 
Top 15 Stories of 2012. Number 13: Texas-Sized Drama 

 

Friday, December 28, 2012


 


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Schwantz was connected at the professional hip with original COTA promoter Tavo Hellmund. The two are friends and reportedly even designed the track's lauded 3.427-mile circuit layout together. It's hard to believe that Schwantz, who—for the record—has never spoken to us about the drama at COTA, didn't have a hard in designing the section of the COTA track which seems like a tribute to Suzuka. Schwantz's first Grand Prix win, an amazing victory for the ages, came at Suzuka.


 


Trouble started to brew in the fall of 2011 when circuit financiers Red McCombs and Bobby Epstein saw Hellmund as an unneeded middleman between them and Formula One boss Bernie Ecclestone and reportedly forced out Hellmund as the track continued to negotiate its deal to bring F1 to Texas. Hellmund sued COTA in March 2012, a suit that vanished in mid-June in an "out-of-court settlement" that presumably included a large check going one way or the other. That paved the way for the inaugural F1 race at COTA in November 2012.


 


But Schwantz claimed the deal with Dorna for a MotoGP race at COTA was with his company 3fourTexas. So McCombs and Epstein started to send smoke signals in 2012 that a world-level motorcycle race might take place at the track in 2013, but it might not be MotoGP due to the impasse with Schwantz. World Superbike was rumored to be Red and Bobby's escape hatch.


 


The dispute reached a new plateau of nasty when Schwantz filed a lawsuit against COTA on Sept. 7, claiming the track went "behind his back" to negotiate a deal with Dorna for a MotoGP race starting in 2013.


 


Schwantz and COTA officials traded public barbs in the following week, with Schwantz claiming "fraud" by COTA and COTA countering by saying Schwantz "never had an agreement" to conduct a MotoGP race at COTA. On Sept. 12, Dorna weighed in on the side of COTA. Dorna claimed it was forced to terminate its agreement with Schwantz in July 2012 because 3fourTexas didn't provide Dorna with required evidence of rights, licenses and permits for the event by June 28.


 


This was a stunning development, one which must have gutted Schwantz. Here is a true modern day Grand Prix legend and ex-world champion, the first rider to ever have his Grand Prix number retired, a person whose image is tattooed on the arms of his fans in some cases, left out in the cold at a track not far from his home. How big is Schwantz? Valentino Rossi is respectful of all former GP heroes, but if you ask him for his favorite, he says "Of course, Schwantz".


 


Dorna then issued a provisional 2013 MotoGP schedule Sept. 21, with a blank slot April 21 earmarked for Austin. That slot was cemented when an updated 2013 schedule was released Oct. 16 with the inaugural Grand Prix of the Americas listed for April 21, even though the legal action between Schwantz and COTA continues behind the scenes.


 


Angry men have been drawing lines in the Texas dirt for generations. Sources in Austin say that the lawsuit between Schwantz and COTA, sadly, continues to this day.


In the end, we don't know who said what or when, or who gave what to whom. In the end we're just American MotoGP fans who look forward to seeing the COTA track and want Kevin Schwantz, a Texan and MotoGP legend, to be a part of the track and the event, for him to stand shoulder to shoulder with the men who brought this amazing facility to completion.


 


Come on guys ...
 
Question for Tex, or anybody smarter than me:  When I clicked on the General Admission option for the MotoGP event, it gave me three "section locations" to choose from.  WTF is that about?  Isn't GA a 'roam the entire ....... track" like Laguna Seca?  So will there be Gen Admission for only those designated "sections"?  Which totally sounds gay to me, as it defeats the whole point of getting General Admission.  Help someone.  I'm not from Tex, so I'm assuming they do .... ...-backwards.  ....... South.
 
GA got me access to about all areas of the track for f1. Just not VIP or grandstands. I got T15 for motogp but will probably spend the majority of time wandering around. The grassy area near T19 is a pretty good GA spot.

Ill be standing on top of my car march 12th watching T1 from fm 812.

See you fellas soon.
 
FYI


Ok, here is the deal. Spoke to AustinGP headquarters today regarding the 3 options for "General Admission". Jessica, the director of ticketing & customer relations said: "All general admission tickets are the same, its just how ticketmaster lists these options for their own records." I asked her, will General Admission sell out? She replied, "Yes, just like F1, we stopped selling at 20 thousand. But for MotoGP it may be a little more."
 
The only jeopardy Texas is in is turning into a very serious party.
 

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