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AMA in Chaos

This is not good for racing fans in the US. Were only getting one side of the story right now. Something needs to happen with AMA Road Racing to make it interesting again, unfortunatley this isn't what I had in mind.

Don't agree with escorting over 50 years worth of racing experience out the door like criminals though.
 
Holly .... Scotty!

Well I don't know what to make of it yet, but I do know a few things:

1. AMA racing has some of the best talent in the world, bar none.
2. AMA Superbike racing is a Suzuki cup.
3. AMA racing is painfully boring.
4. AMA racing does not foster the efforts of privateers.
5. AMA racing needs a dramatic change if it is to become successful.

Is what is happening the answer? That is to be seen.
 
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Holly .... Scotty!

Well I don't know what to make of it yet, but I do know a few things:

1. AMA racing has some of the best talent in the world, bar none.
2. AMA Superbike racing is a Suzuki cup.
3. AMA racing is painfully boring.
4. AMA racing does not foster the efforts of privateers.
5. AMA racing needs a dramatic change if it is to become successful.

Is what is happening the answer? That is to be seen.


I am hoping that the shake up in AMA serves to be a good one. A great one! I don't know what is going on in the tea leaves but my take on it is that the series is looking to grow its popularity and profits.

If any of the changes makes AMA 1/4 as popular as NASCAR, motorcycle roadracing may just thrive again in the U.S.

There is plenty of thoughts and ideas as to how to make the sport more popular and more widely accepted in the U.S. My hopes are that they get it right and not sink the sport.

Supermoto, Dirt Track and road racing should get just as much coverage(and support) as the cage racing.
 
Agreed that AMA superbike racing needs a bit of a shake up, but how does unceremoniously firing long time employees do anything about the dominance of the Suzuki superbikes? They'd be further ahead to cripple Mladin and Spies, because as Tommy Hayden shows, the Suzuki bikes don't win all the races by themselves.

In contrast to superbike, I would argue that supersport is one very exciting series.

Overall, I think this comes down to a very heavy handed management style, that no matter the results that it may or may not get, will poison the organization.
 
That's why Michael Jordan hardly looks like he is having fun at the races. His teams cannot compete with the factory guys.
 
Perhaps the shake up is to remove people that have been holding up progress and equivelant racing due to marketing relationships established by them.

Perhaps AMA will go through a year or two of even more boring racing and desertion from the factories before it all goes wildly up like WSBK did a couple of year ago following the single tyre rule.
 
The overwhelming concensus according to people that have responded,is this is a very positive move.Yes,these guys had put in their time but had got nothing done.Membership has not grown,might have actually shrunk in the last 10 years even though motorcycle sales doubled.The magazine was losing money,stands at road racing events were stagnant at best.It had turned into a good ole boys network of fun and games and pissing away money.His tactics might be harsh but underlings of those who were fired are starting to speak up about how they lived in fear of ther jobs.This is a coup attempt by the ones that got the axe and it is destined to fail.Just because you have been doing something for 25-30 years doesnt mean you were doing it right and the board finally put someone in charge that was not part of the club and he is burning it down.GOOD FOR HIM,the AMA has been an dysfunctional organization for way to long.
 
This is a very good thing executed very very poorly, and, frankly, I'm terrified to see what the new strategy will be when the AMA withdraws.

First, these guys were going to be fired one way or the other. They were part of the race directors group and they won't be needed now that AMA isn't going to continue race promotion. As I understand it, they want to be the governing body for all two-wheeled American racing--which seems good on the surface. Plus, they are shaking things up so they need to go out with the old--it would have been nice if it could have been a bit more dignified though.

Furthermore, I'm happy they are pulling out of the marketing/management aspect of racing because they suck at it, and I want them to focus on lobbying (the only reason I ever send them any money)--particularly against CARB.

AMA super(insert suffix) has been dysfunctional for a while b/c they are dedicated to keeping the sport amateur (good in my opinion) while keeping manufacturing money rolling in--a difficult balance

As Jordan has shown, being a competitive privateer squad is difficult and as Suzuki has shown, it has no interest in putting its relatively meager income stream at risk by sending factory parts Jordan's way.

The two competing strategies from what I understand are to go spec-style, advertising, homegrown racing with an emphasis on the rider and his WINNINGS (wow, winnings making up a majority of a rider's salary? wierd
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while marketers compete to assemble the best team for marketing purposes. OR try to make a miniature version of WSBK.

I happen to believe that the enormous cost is what's keeping it from being competitive right now, and the only way to make AMA sanctioned events legit is if they gain global attention for their ability to produce world class riders. Therefore, I think the AMA should go spec-style with few mods and passionate/dirty amateuresque racing for big paydays, while bike manufacturers figure out how to cut racing costs and boost marketing appeal.

Run it just like NASCAR only no scripts and no 50 bike pileups every 2 times around the oval. All teams private, run whatever you want. I go so far as to say, don't even limit them to running one manufacturer in a season. If they buy a lemon let them run out and buy a new homologation machine. If the rider is exalted and the machines are nothing more than spec rolling billboards that marketers figure out how to glorify, the competition will be fierce and the world will take notice.

Sure, running an entirely stock bike seems really stupid and undoubtedly the first few years would be plagued with blowups and wrecks, but thoughts of the homologation specials that would hit our shores are enough to make any moto enthusiast salivate.
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Look what Duc can build for $72,500. Set a price cap at 50,000 and let the manufacturers compete for superiority. If you build the best bike and it's cheap you might even earn a profit on your race machines!!
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I also think they should do weird stuff like make a supermono class for all the youngins trying to get to the higher classes. It would revitalize small companies like Cagiva, Husqy, KTM, maybe Duc. Fun times would ensue if the Japanese threw their hats in the ring.
 
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Well thought out 'lexi'
Perhaps you could throw your hat in the ring for one of the top jobs!
 
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Well thought out 'lexi'
Perhaps you could throw your hat in the ring for one of the top jobs!

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that makes to much sense... the ama will have none of that!
 
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I also think they should do...

Lexi for AMA Prez. Vote today!
 
Ha! Thanks for the votes. I can't imagine I'd last more the 5 minutes though. People have told me I'm not a good listener, but I'm actually half deaf
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Alledgedly, AMA are adding a supermono for the youngins! I was hoping they'd run 4-stroke 450's or something like that, but I forgot during 2007 the AMA partnered with the United States Gran Prix Racers Union to run the 125 class at several races.

The USGPRU is supposed to become a permanent fixture in the AMA for 2008 or 2009 depending on when/if they can come to an agreement.

Not bad. 125cc 2-stroke singles is an okay compromise, I wonder what's going to happen if the FIM does away with the 2-strokes though.
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I wonder what the USGPRU will do if the 250 class doesn't get absorbed into AMA events.
 

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