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So, another complication in the pot, is Ducati want to give Bezecchi a 2024 bike next season at the expense of Zarco. That firstly leaves the issue of why keep Zarco if he is not riding a development (i.e. current) bike?

Secondly, and the big issue, is Ducati want to offer Bezzechi a 2yr contract. However, if he remains at VR46, there are strong rumours they are moving to Yamaha for 2025 so in that case, Bezzechi would have to be moved to Pramac anyway.

Will Zarco be the victim of Ducati's desperation to keep Bezzecchi?
 
Are we sure about that? There's no spot for him if Morbidelli replaces Diggia at Gresini.
It's looking less likely that Franco will go to Gresini.
I'd prefer Arbolino moves up and Morbi moves out. Arbolino is a major talent.
Exactly, Franco has had his time. In fact I'd be pissed if he even gets the VR46 over someone like Vietti.
Idk if this is even a bold prediction but I could see Marc and Joan both sit out the 2024 season if they can't get away from Honda.
Mir? Maybe. I doubt Marc would. Though I agree it wouldnt be a bad idea.
 
So what is coming out of Silverstone is:

Bezzechi has to go to Pramac if he wants a factory bike.
If he goes, then Franco gets his VR46 bike
Bye bye Zarco, then would likely be in line for the LCR Honda seat vacated by Rins (if Honda don;t give it to Lecuona)
Finally, Crash is reporting that there may be a chance Raul Fernandez doesnt see out the 2nd yr of his contract at RNF, leaving a highly prized Aprilia seat up for grabs...
 
Exactly, Franco has had his time. In fact I'd be pissed if he even gets the VR46 over someone like Vietti
There's no way I'd choose Vietti for a MotoGP ride right now. He had a great start to 2022 but a horrible stretch to end the season and he doesn't even sit in the Top 10 of the championship standings this year.

Arbolino is certainly a top-level talent but not every year there's room for more than one driver to move up. Zarco even spent a second year in Moto2 after his first championship.
Franco is a three-time race winner and finished 2nd in the championship less than three years ago and actually closed the gap to his world champion teammate this year. He definitely still deserves to be at the top level imo.
 
There's no way I'd choose Vietti for a MotoGP ride right now. He had a great start to 2022 but a horrible stretch to end the season and he doesn't even sit in the Top 10 of the championship standings this year.

Arbolino is certainly a top-level talent but not every year there's room for more than one driver to move up. Zarco even spent a second year in Moto2 after his first championship.
Franco is a three-time race winner and finished 2nd in the championship less than three years ago and actually closed the gap to his world champion teammate this year. He definitely still deserves to be at the top level imo.
I agree that Arbolino should get a seat. Acosta and Tony are the only two I'd take from moto2 for next year. The two riders I think should go from motogp are Zarco and Miller. I like Zarco and hope he gets a win this season but his time is up. He is a very talented rider but not future champion material. Jack we have seen the best of there is no reason to keep him around if other riders are available.
 
There's no way I'd choose Vietti for a MotoGP ride right now. He had a great start to 2022 but a horrible stretch to end the season and he doesn't even sit in the Top 10 of the championship standings this year.
I was giving him as an example. However, would you have picked Casey Stoner or Dani Pedrosa to be a multiple MotoGP champion based on their 2005 seasons in 250cc?

I'm not saying Vietti is a Stoner, but junior category results aren't always indicative of MotoGP performance and VR46 is about rider development, so why take Franco other than the fact he is part of the academy?
Arbolino is certainly a top-level talent but not every year there's room for more than one driver to move up. Zarco even spent a second year in Moto2 after his first championship.
Franco is a three-time race winner and finished 2nd in the championship less than three years ago and actually closed the gap to his world champion teammate this year. He definitely still deserves to be at the top level imo.
While I agree with your first statement, I disagree with your third. The very reason there is no room is because of riders holding on too long. Franco Morbidelli is not the same rider who finished 2nd in the 2020 championship, on a customer machine. He has NEVER been competitive on the factory bike and if the only justification for him is to say he is closer to a severly demotivated Fabio Quartararo on what is nearly a back of the grid bike is not a huge selling point. People are quick to write Joan Mir off, and he was WC in the same year.

MotoGP is now at a level where you cannot have riders holding factory seats for years on end hoping they come good. Ducati have enough talent in their roster to not need him, and as I said before, VR46 is a rider development academy. I stated in 2022 that Yamaha should have cut Francos contract when both the Suzuki riders became available and now they have signed Rins, like they should have done 12 months ago. Yamaha wasted a year waiting on the promise of old form, but it hasn't happened. When you have riders like Bastianini, Martin, Bezzechi, Binder, Augusto Fernandez this year alone on the grid, with Acosta and possibly Arbolino moving up next year, it makes a weak argument FOR Morbidelli.
I agree that Arbolino should get a seat. Acosta and Tony are the only two I'd take from moto2 for next year. The two riders I think should go from motogp are Zarco and Miller. I like Zarco and hope he gets a win this season but his time is up. He is a very talented rider but not future champion material. Jack we have seen the best of there is no reason to keep him around if other riders are available.
I'd add Vinales, Pol Espargaro and Raul Fernandez to that list.
 
I'd add Vinales, Pol Espargaro and Raul Fernandez to that list.
I see your Raul Fernandez and raise you a Taka Nakagami.

I enjoy watching Vinales fail because he is such a ..... I find myself looking for him every start to watching him drop like a stone. Pol meh I feel like he could have some upside. This year was unfortunate. I rate him higher than his brother.
 
I was giving him as an example. However, would you have picked Casey Stoner or Dani Pedrosa to be a multiple MotoGP champion based on their 2005 seasons in 250cc?

I'm not saying Vietti is a Stoner, but junior category results aren't always indicative of MotoGP performance and VR46 is about rider development, so why take Franco other than the fact he is part of the academy?

Dani Pedrosa? The all time 2nd best rider? He was a perineal number 2.

I thought the VR46 academy was about telling Rossi how good he is and giving each other hand jobs in front of Uccio.
 
The armchair expert opinion on order that riders should disappear in order;
  1. Giannantonio
  2. R Fernandez
  3. P Espargaro (assuming he doesn't perform after coming back from injury)
  4. Bastianini (unless he gets his mojo back, I'm assuming he is still recovering from injury)
  5. Mir
  6. Morbidelli
  7. Nakagami (would of rated earlier but there's a need for a Japanese rider)
  8. Olivera
  9. Zarco
  10. M Marquez
:p:cool:o_O:rolleyes:
 
The armchair expert opinion on order that riders should disappear in order;
  1. Giannantonio
  2. R Fernandez
  3. P Espargaro (assuming he doesn't perform after coming back from injury)
  4. Bastianini (unless he gets his mojo back, I'm assuming he is still recovering from injury)
  5. Mir
  6. Morbidelli
  7. Nakagami (would of rated earlier but there's a need for a Japanese rider)
  8. Olivera
  9. Zarco
  10. M Marquez
:p:cool:o_O:rolleyes:
You forgot Quartararo (he's on a bad bike which means he's automatically a bad rider now), Bagnaia (couldn't defend against an aging Espargaro, exposing the Italian as a fraud) and Binder (zero wins in a year and a half, clearly washed up).
 
I see your Raul Fernandez and raise you a Taka Nakagami.

I enjoy watching Vinales fail because he is such a ..... I find myself looking for him every start to watching him drop like a stone. Pol meh I feel like he could have some upside. This year was unfortunate. I rate him higher than his brother.
I agree about Taka but that Idemitsu bike is always going to have a Japanese rider on it. So him or Ogura, doesn't really matter. I'm not sure how much longer the latter can say no to stepping up to GP.
Dani Pedrosa? The all time 2nd best rider? He was a perineal number 2.
Not in 2006 he wasn't :) He was touted as the future of Honda, hence the Minime bike of 2007.
I thought the VR46 academy was about telling Rossi how good he is and giving each other hand jobs in front of Uccio.
It is, but they go bike racing on some weekends.
The armchair expert opinion on order that riders should disappear in order;
  1. Giannantonio
  2. R Fernandez
  3. P Espargaro (assuming he doesn't perform after coming back from injury)
  4. Bastianini (unless he gets his mojo back, I'm assuming he is still recovering from injury)
  5. Mir
  6. Morbidelli
  7. Nakagami (would of rated earlier but there's a need for a Japanese rider)
  8. Olivera
  9. Zarco
  10. M Marquez
:p:cool:o_O:rolleyes:
A little harsh on the Beast? I hear that even before his injury, he is having issues dealing with the 23 Desmo.

Yes, it is true a lot of #2 passes in close proximity to the perineum.
Welcome back.
 
A little harsh on the Beast? I hear that even before his injury, he is having issues dealing with the 23 Desmo.
I don't know what's happening, at the moment he's coming nowhere. I'm assuming he hasn't recovered from his injuries and ask the question as to where he will be once they have healed. Anyway he's safe for 2024, just needs to be back to full fight by the first few races of 2024
 
I don't know what's happening, at the moment he's coming nowhere. I'm assuming he hasn't recovered from his injuries and ask the question as to where he will be once they have healed. Anyway he's safe for 2024, just needs to be back to full fight by the first few races of 2024
Bastianini's Ducati MotoGP bike feels like he is ‘riding a chopper’

Still not comfortable on the bike it seems. Remember, he's had very few racing laps this season which hasn't helped him adapt.
 
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