I still enjoy watching the races in 2010 BM - they would be better though if there was more than one person at the front. Doesn't need to be Rossi - can anyone please step up?
2010 second part: the "Mundialito"
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Meanwhile, Rossi is heading to the Sachsenring, accompanied by the entire Rossi Fan Club from Tavullia.
The Mundialito is on, athough we are still at the preliminaries only.
I expect Rossi to lap on the M1 on Friday and Saturday, then see how it goes on the actual thing and in the midst of the pack. If he doesn't feel good enough, he can let Yoshikawa qualify and race.
The Mundialito is on, athough we are still at the preliminaries only.
I expect Rossi to lap on the M1 on Friday and Saturday, then see how it goes on the actual thing and in the midst of the pack. If he doesn't feel good enough, he can let Yoshikawa qualify and race.
2010 MotoGP World Champion Jorge Lorenzo.
role on 2011
Since I got so old - I hate to wish time away -
so I'll look forward to Rossi ruffling Whoregay's feathers, maybe pre and certainly from & post Misano -
AND then a great 2011 and an even better 2012 with the return of the big bikes
(btw I remember 500 (singles) being the big bikes)
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Ahhh, the Norton Manx
Would love to have one to ride on track on Sundays...
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...., I wish he went alone, (even without Uccio), and let everybody find another reason for his success.
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Success for Rossi at Ducati is not granted, with JB or without, Uccio or not. But should he be successful with Ducati also, at 32-33 yrs old, well, even the professional doubters/denigrators would have a really steep mirror to climb
Ahhh, the Norton Manx
Would love to have one to ride on track on Sundays...
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Beautiful pic,J4rno.
Success for Rossi at Ducati is not granted, with JB or without, Uccio or not. But should he be successful with Ducati also, at 32-33 yrs old, well, even the professional doubters/denigrators would have a really steep mirror to climb
Not much anyone can say at the moment if this remarkable return actually happens. I am amazed he still has such passion for competition at this stage in his career after so much success. Even if he is coming back so early because the show is sinking without him it is entirely admirable.
I share some of your doubts about ducati even with rossi. I am sure they can come up with a good engine, at whatever capacity is current, as their history supports. It is beyond the scope of my knowledge, but doubts about their whole chassis approach, and the carbon fibre direction, still seem to exist.
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If there is a man on earth who could make Preziosi change his mind on any design choices, that's Rossi.
He made Yamaha bin the 5-valves head, after all, which was considered a company trademark...
If there is a man on earth who could make Preziosi change his mind on any design choices, that's Rossi.
He made Yamaha bin the 5-valves head, after all, which was considered a company trademark...
Sure, and preziosi is entirely capable of coming up with another brilliant bike from his own resources as well. My doubts are about the current apparent "ersatz yamaha" approach when the previous design philosophy has been seemingly quite different from yamaha's. I liked the 2007 approach of building a really fast bike and hoping someone could ride it, which was the only way they could see to beat valentino; I don't think they need to build a poor man's yamaha if he is at their disposal.
Success for Rossi at Ducati is not granted, with JB or without, Uccio or not. But should he be successful with Ducati also, at 32-33 yrs old, well, even the professional doubters/denigrators would have a really steep mirror to climb
I know what you mean, i,m also not sure if he can have the same success as his last team change, but i expect him to find his pace with Duc and do same amazing thigs, even if it takes a year longer than in Yamaha, but your right we have to wait and see.
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The question is, will Rossi try and create an opportunity to get back in the title chase. If he in fact is leaving Yamaha, will he be a good team mate and do everything he can to ensure Yamaha and Lorenzo the title, or does he try and rough up Lorenzo and maybe cause an incident where Jorge gets punted a couple of times and maybe even hurt. If this does start to happen, how does Yamaha and Lorenzo react. Building up this mini season championship is for the boppers. If Lorenzo is 101 points ahead with 4 races to go, and brings it home safely for the title, with Rossi winning the last 4 races of the year, it will be unbearable. The mini season means nothing in the real world.
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Good teammates, you say?
Like who? Agostini and Hailwood? Doohan and Criville? Pedrosa and Hayden? Alonso and Hamilton? That is why top riders racing (seriously) for the title shouldn't be in the same team.
The "mundialito" between Lorenzo and Rossi will mean a lot in the world of GP motorbikes and racing. Certainly, that world is not the "real" world, but it is real enough for all those involved.
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Good teammates, you say?
Like who? Agostini and Hailwood? Doohan and Criville? Pedrosa and Hayden? Alonso and Hamilton? That is why top riders racing (seriously) for the title shouldn't be in the same team.
The "mundialito" between Lorenzo and Rossi will mean a lot in the world of GP motorbikes and racing. Certainly, that world is not the "real" world, but it is real enough for all those involved.
Rossi winning more races late in the season would mean nothing if Lorenzo is nursing a huge points lead. When it mattered, Lorenzo was scoring more points head to head. I would guess that Lorenzo could give a rats ... if Rossi scores a few more points after the summer break, as long as he takes home the trophy. This is nothing but looking for moral victories. Kind of like the basketball team that is down by 30 at the half and loses by 20, then crows, we beat them in the second half.
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You mean like Stoner had couple of moral race victories last season
Did any Stoner fans claim a mythical "smaller private championship"
well if the Yamaha Wsbk boys can learn more in those two tests with vr than they have all year with their two full time world champions then it might just be vr still has it in him to make the duck a consistent winner, and it's not that far off IMO, not as far off as the Yam was in 2003 anyway. Vr has always cranked it up a couple of notches when pissed off and if he does make the move away from Yamaha, it would have to be attributed predominantly to the ........ they fed him about his pay cut. Giving that extra cash to jl certainly wouldn't be sitting well. You would think Yamaha could have just told Rossi
'look we just want to take a few million off you so we can pay Jorge as much as you!! We know you've won us four world titles and brought us from ultimate losers to ultimate winners, but hey!'
if all of this is true, then it would seem that it must have been Yamahas strategy to let go of Rossi, for if it wasn't their intention to lose him then it would have to go down as one of the biggest f##ups in their recent history.
Hopefully at Laguna we will know, it did take vr until very late in the season in 03 at PI to announce his plans though.
They don't need to tell him ...., the pay cut itself sends the only message they need to send: We don't think its in our best interests to pay you that much anymore
