“The man to beat this year is going to be Stoner"

That is what everyone said a year ago

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Traverser @ Apr 7 2009, 04:45 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>That is what everyone said a year ago
Yeah, yeah and rossi was the man to beat in 2006 and 2007; come to think of it you may have a point , although rossi was probably also the man to beat in 2005, 2003, 2002 and 2001 but less definitely in 2004 .

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Johnny's_game @ Apr 7 2009, 02:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Full article can be found here: http://www.motogp.com/en/news/2009/Crivill...oGP+predictions

It's interesting that Alex mentions that <u>Stoner is "the one with the least active traction control".</u>

Alex Crivillé:

“The man to beat this year is going to be Stoner. He has been the fastest in all the preseason tests that he’s done, and the way that he rides the Ducati is incredible. He’s the one with the least active traction control as well; when the other Ducati riders were getting pushed to the outside by the bike at Jerez’s Ferrari corner, he was getting on the gas to hit the apex.”




people here are oblivious to that fact, people here rather want to beleive all stoner relies upon is tc.

TC is all in the wrist and Stoner wrist seems fine.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pinky @ Apr 7 2009, 07:20 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>people here are oblivious to that fact, people here rather want to beleive all stoner relies upon is tc.

and you are oblivious to what you have stated.

The man to beat in qualifying is Stoner, the man to beat in the race is Rossi

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Johnny's_game @ Apr 7 2009, 04:28 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Full article can be found here: http://www.motogp.com/en/news/2009/Crivill...oGP+predictions

It's interesting that Alex mentions that <u>Stoner is "the one with the least active traction control".</u>

Alex Crivillé:

“The man to beat this year is going to be Stoner. He has been the fastest in all the preseason tests that he’s done, and the way that he rides the Ducati is incredible. He’s the one with the least active traction control as well; when the other Ducati riders were getting pushed to the outside by the bike at Jerez’s Ferrari corner, he was getting on the gas to hit the apex.”



well i dont believe it and we will never know...... acording to some he uses the most acording to others he uses hardly any..... didnt melandri say he uses alot more than everyone else?

not taking credit away here i know hes on the throttle before everyone else but im not buying the TC thing

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jazkat @ Apr 7 2009, 05:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>well i dont believe it and we will never know...... acording to some he uses the most acording to others he uses hardly any..... didnt melandri say he uses alot more than everyone else?
Melandri isn't the sharpest tool in the shed. He also has no conception of how the Duc should be ridden.

Casey slides into the apex of corners then powers out. By the time his "powerslide" is done, any other rider would be starting theirs. Notice he NEVER power slides after the apex. EVER. As a result, he can get the bike squared to the next straight faster and get on the throttle earlier. This is proven by video and photo evidence, as well as data. Nicky and Marco were know drag rubber to smoke tires post apex.

Whether this requires more TC or less I don't know. But reducing power pulses to the tire probably wouldn't make anyone faster.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (an4rew @ Apr 7 2009, 03:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>The man to beat in qualifying is Stoner, the man to beat in the race is Rossi
True. But I think the main thing that we all can agree on is that if they both remain as fast and consistant racing should be fun to watch again.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jazkat @ Apr 8 2009, 03:22 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>well i dont believe it and we will never know...... acording to some he uses the most acording to others he uses hardly any..... didnt melandri say he uses alot more than everyone else?

No .... the "Stoner uses the most TC" ( a blindingly stupid statement ) ... thing came directly from the Rossifans as it was a possible "culturally acceptable" reason why Rossi was being beaten.

Melandri generally said only one thing about the Duc. ....." I can't ride it", in saying that he also said he did say he cannot ride with Stoners TC settings ....... that does not mean Stoner has more TC ( whatever "more TC" can possibly mean ) ..... again non acceptance that "Stoner is just plain fast", and came in and dominated their idol, was why some went from that statement to some strange idea that it meant Stoner has some TC that defies the laws of physics and actually turns less power in corners to more speed.

Every rider/ex rider, ever interviewed, has said the same thing ..... TC does not make you fast ......
work it out ....... the Rossi fans imply it does ...... and yet any attempt to ask them to explain how gets nothing but "group sooking and fairytales"

Its 2009 ..... they all have "ways of tuning electronics" to suit themselves ....... even in WSBK ..... get over the crap!! its been two years since Stoner began winning with his WMD's ( Rossifan for TC ) fitted to his bike

As to Crivilles comment ........ well whats new ..... which rider/ex-rider has not said exactly the same?

i wasnt gettin into the tc debate barry just saying these people assume...

i wasnt saying he used the most or the least... its just these stupid statements are worthless... they are put out perfectly on time like its put out there for people to start rumours and its all ........ thats what im saying.

the only people who do know are his engineers... this is what i mean as soon as the tc thing comes back out everyones at eachothers throat.

im not up for these fight and defend arguments this year, .... sake all that should matter is the dam racing.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ROCKGOD01 @ Apr 8 2009, 05:34 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>True. But I think the main thing that we all can agree on is that if they both remain as fast and consistant racing should be fun to watch again.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ROCKGOD01 @ Apr 7 2009, 10:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>True. But I think the main thing that we all can agree on is that if they both remain as fast and consistant racing should be fun to watch again.


amen to that mate

The defending champion is usually the one to beat, particularly since he is valentino rossi. Apart from anything else he has a rather good record as a defending champion, a bike which still looks excellent and the resources both technical and human to develop the bike further.

I think the situation is different than last year to an extent though. In 2008 rossi was basically setting up the bike on bridgestones for the first time at each testing session and in most races, so whilst as many have said testing is obviously not racing, the margins that stoner had in testing for this season could possibly have more significance. The GP09 compared to the GP08 appears to be more agile and likely to be suited to a wider variety of tracks, and I would be surprised if stoner/ducati have similar problems to last year when they were struggling to be competitive for podiums let alone wins for several races post qatar.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (clarkjw @ Apr 8 2009, 05:39 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Melandri isn't the sharpest tool in the shed. He also has no conception of how the Duc should be ridden.

Casey slides into the apex of corners then powers out. By the time his "powerslide" is done, any other rider would be starting theirs. Notice he NEVER power slides after the apex. EVER. As a result, he can get the bike squared to the next straight faster and get on the throttle earlier. This is proven by video and photo evidence, as well as data. Nicky and Marco were know drag rubber to smoke tires post apex.

Whether this requires more TC or less I don't know. But reducing power pulses to the tire probably wouldn't make anyone faster.

It's a dirt track method plain and somple. it's where he comes from, I honestly thought Nicki would have got a better handle on it.

The man to beat still is and always has been Rossi, and the man to do it is Casey followed by Lorenzo then Dani and so on and so forth.

I am expecting the Suzuki riders to be a little more competative this year, but only aiming for top 5 in a star studded field

Also, the summer break has been awesome!

The wave bouy off Durnabah (Tweed Heads) recorded its biggest ever wave (trough to peak) last week, 11 metres!!!!

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Andy Roo @ Apr 7 2009, 09:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Also, the summer break has been awesome!

The wave bouy off Durnabah (Tweed Heads) recorded its biggest ever wave (trough to peak) last week, 11 metres!!!!
What up Andy, nice to see you postin again.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jumkie @ Apr 8 2009, 02:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>What up Andy, nice to see you postin again.


Just been loving summer man (you Northern Hemisphere guys get winter). Surf, Golf, swimming, kids etc. No computer time.

I'm trying to get through my unread things here but there is a .... load of them, whats going on with Nicki? From a fan to fan, is he going to come good on the Duc?

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Andy Roo @ Apr 8 2009, 05:28 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Just been loving summer man (you Northern Hemisphere guys get winter). Surf, Golf, swimming, kids etc. No computer time.

I'm trying to get through my unread things here but there is a .... load of them, whats going on with Nicki? From a fan to fan, is he going to come good on the Duc?
I am also glad to see you back. Apart from your other pursuits, it was probably a good idea to wait till some racing was in prospect to start posting again.

Welcome back Andy.


<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Andy Roo @ Apr 8 2009, 05:03 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Also, the summer break has been awesome!

The wave bouy off Durnabah (Tweed Heads) recorded its biggest ever wave (trough to peak) last week, 11 metres!!!!

Sure has been some big surf on teh east coast teh last week or so hey?

We have had around 4 - 5 metres at times down my way which makes for some spectacular sights when you sit and watch them roll in and onto rocks.




Gaz