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Mike Rinaldi will step back to SSP according to her ServusTV commentators.

Redding will remain at Bonovo MGM which is will become a Ducati customer team.
Philipp Öttl will ride a Ducati in SSP.
 
An interesting quote I heard from over the weekend: "MotoGP needs Toprak more than Toprak needs MotoGP"... Quite thought provoking.
One of the commentators mentioned it, but I can't remember if it was their own opinion or someone else's
 
An interesting quote I heard from over the weekend: "MotoGP needs Toprak more than Toprak needs MotoGP"... Quite thought provoking.
One of the commentators mentioned it, but I can't remember if it was their own opinion or someone else's

I don't see that it needs him at all. Acosta, Marquez, Martin, Bagnaia, Quartararo. They are all pretty cable of riding the wheels of a racing motorcycle. Apologies for any names I missed but I don't see him consistently carving up the motoGP field.
 
I don't see that it needs him at all. Acosta, Marquez, Martin, Bagnaia, Quartararo. They are all pretty cable of riding the wheels of a racing motorcycle. Apologies for any names I missed but I don't see him consistently carving up the motoGP field.
Fair enough, although I don't fully agree. In terms of pure talent/ability, I think MM is the only who might be above him, maybe Acosta in future. In terms of PR (which is what I think the quote alluded to), I don't think there is anyone more globally popular. I'm talking purely in WSBK circles, as many MotoGP fans don't follow WSBK, so won't know.
I think you'll find it difficult to find anyone he is NOT popular with in the WSBK following.
 
For me, the quote Saffa wrote earlier, it also points to the flair Toprak has, or the ability to amaze.

MotoGP has many fast riders, yet I do think that only the antics and style of Marc and Pedro, is what people would pay top dollar for to see on repeat.
There is something too metronomic, too precise about messrs Bagnaia, Martin, Bastianini, Viñales and Quartararo.

If only Binder would have a little better bike, or be able to keep it upright more frquently, I'd have him on the Wow-list as well.
 
For me, the quote Saffa wrote earlier, it also points to the flair Toprak has, or the ability to amaze.

MotoGP has many fast riders, yet I do think that only the antics and style of Marc and Pedro, is what people would pay top dollar for to see on repeat.
There is something too metronomic, too precise about messrs Bagnaia, Martin, Bastianini, Viñales and Quartararo.

If only Binder would have a little better bike, or be able to keep it upright more frquently, I'd have him on the Wow-list as well.
Yes, that's my take on what the quote was referring to as well, more about PR than anything else.

And I fully agree about Binder. He is again top non-Ducati rider in the standings...
 
An interesting quote I heard from over the weekend: "MotoGP needs Toprak more than Toprak needs MotoGP"... Quite thought provoking.
One of the commentators mentioned it, but I can't remember if it was their own opinion or someone else's
If Toprak never makes the move to MotoGP fans will forever be asking themselves what could've been. At least I will be.
Apart from Toprak I don't see a MotoGP champion caliber rider in SBK right now. If Toprak never makes the jump we'll never find out how great he truly is.

And I fully agree about Binder. He is again top non-Ducati rider in the standings...
Yeah but his season hasn't been great. Everyone behind the Top 4 in the standings has been incredibly inconsistent.
For the most part Brad didn't have the speed of Acosta this season and still crashed a lot.
 
If Toprak never makes the move to MotoGP fans will forever be asking themselves what could've been. At least I will be.
Apart from Toprak I don't see a MotoGP champion caliber rider in SBK right now. If Toprak never makes the jump we'll never find out how great he truly is.


Yeah but his season hasn't been great. Everyone behind the Top 4 in the standings has been incredibly inconsistent.
For the most part Brad didn't have the speed of Acosta this season and still crashed a lot.
I'm probably just a fanboy, but I think he is a true great, whether he goes to MotoGP or not. I really hope he does though. I'm still hoping BMW enters with him at the helm.

About Binder, you just made my point. Even with the backwards step KTM had from last year, the new up and coming talent and crashing more than ever before, he is still best of the rest on the points table (for now)
 
Toprak is a throwback to the old days of bike control, and unless GP is planning a major electronics crackdown for 2027, his talents would be wasted in MotoGP. Several preternatural talents have seen their career achievements grind to a halt in MotoGP, and I don't want Toprak to become their latest victim.

He's built for superbikes. His skillset meshes with superbikes. Hopefully, he won't make the same mistake as Spies and Vermeulen. If SBK isn't challenging enough, switch manufacturers again, imo.
 
Toprak is a throwback to the old days of bike control, and unless GP is planning a major electronics crackdown for 2027, his talents would be wasted in MotoGP. Several preternatural talents have seen their career achievements grind to a halt in MotoGP, and I don't want Toprak to become their latest victim.

He's built for superbikes. His skillset meshes with superbikes. Hopefully, he won't make the same mistake as Spies and Vermeulen. If SBK isn't challenging enough, switch manufacturers again, imo.

Is he better at bike control than one Marc Marquez?
I need to watch him more if so, as Marc is better than anyone else I have seen in over 40 years of watching GP bike racing.
Those black lines with the front tyre. But yes negated to an extent with ride height and aero.
 
Look he's bloody good no doubt, but I aint seen from him what I have from Marc.
My point is that MotoGP has plenty of talent. I am happy to see him there but I don't see him walking all over everyone. MotoGP will survive happily without him. The comment that it needs him more than he needs it is therefore unsupported by reality imo.
What motoGP needs is a rolling back of the tech to put control back in the riders hands if it is to become better to watch as was inferred. Reduce aero and ride height for a start so riders can more readily stuff it in under brakes without losing downforce.
 
Look he's bloody good no doubt, but I aint seen from him what I have from Marc.
By your own words, you don't seem to have seen a lot of him?

Anyway, if we all had the same opinions, the world would be a boring place. I agree to disagree....
 
By your own words, you don't seem to have seen a lot of him?

Anyway, if we all had the same opinions, the world would be a boring place. I agree to disagree....


A bit but no not as much as Marquez. I haven't seen him regularly painting black lines with the front tyre, mind you nobody has been able to do that like Marc.
Yeah it would be boring if we all agreed all of the time :)
 
What we have seen of Raz is that he has changed bikes twice in WSBK and adapted quickly twice. MotoGP would take longer to adapt however we will only know if he moves to MotoGP
 
Is he better at bike control than one Marc Marquez?
I need to watch him more if so, as Marc is better than anyone else I have seen in over 40 years of watching GP bike racing.
Those black lines with the front tyre. But yes negated to an extent with ride height and aero.

Probably not, but even Marc has been neutralized by the rise of ride height and aero. He'd still be winning easily on almost any bike if not for Gigi's tech coup, imo.

The pay discrepancy is probably considerable, but I don't think MotoGP has anything to offer Toprak in terms of career advancement.
 
I don't think MotoGP has anything to offer Toprak in terms of career advancement.
In WSBK he fights with Bulega (ex Moto2 rider) Bautista (a 40 year of ex MotoGP rider) Petrucci (an almost 40 year old MotoGP race winning rider)

The best riders are in MotoGP. If you are ambitious, want to race with the best.
 
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