WSBK Rd4 - ASSEN !

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Geonerd @ Apr 26 2010, 01:15 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>"Majesty" and "EffWun," there's a combination of words that you don't see very often!    
Hurray for Toesland.  His near-crash in Superpole suggests that the bike is not one of the easiest to ride quickly.  He looked pretty worked after both races.

Cammier found speed, but was also rather inconsistent. His crash was, IMO, the result of riding a few inches over his head.  I'm hoping Leon's form spurs Bad Max to push just a little harder.  

Yea, the Brit. podium was sorta cool, but I got REAL tired of Eurosport's Witham and Burnicle constantly going on about it.  This isn't the British Superbike Series, guys!  

At least you weren't watching it with commentary by that ninny Jonathan Green. His voice could take
chrome off a bumper. Re: Toesland - at some level you have to think he's being spurred to attempted greatness by the (so-to-speak) ghost of the Pie Man whose seat he's now in. Camier seems almost like he's emulating Stoner in the 2006 series. Gotta say, he's got fire in the belly.

W0W!! Finally saw the races last night.One of the best days rcaing I`ve seen for quite some time.Brit podiums,Laverty on form and Chas getting the Trumpet up there again.Brilliant!!!!!

What better way for WSBK to take advantage of the cancellation of the GP race. Captive audience and 2 barn burner races. If you didnt like that, you dont have a heartbeat.The second race was off the hook. Johnny Rea learned a little something from the pie man last year. Did you notice where he kept making passes, the same place Spies scared Haga out of his seat on the last lap pass. Not that im complaining, but WTF Xerox Ducati, they are lost and it looks like Haga might be mentally broke. Losing the title last year after having such a commanding lead appears to have done him in. He is still going to win races if the bike is perfect, but the nitro in him seems to have fizzled.

simply fantastic racing!

Does anyone find it a bit weird the reason they are giving for Haslam's poor first race. A punctured tire. When he dropped back to 15-16, they were guessing brake issue. He fought back for an 11th place in race 1. A punctured tire cant get better over the course of a race, can it

For anyone counting the season

Suzuki 2 wins

Aprilia 2 wins

Ducati 2 wins

Honda 2 wins

Yamaha and BMW are getting closer and closer.

It will be hard to get a much closer points battle than last year, but actually predicting the participants is going to be next to impossible. This time last year, it was pretty common thought that it was Spies and Haga. I wouldnt bet a 100 dollars on any 2 at this point.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (eltoro @ Apr 25 2010, 07:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Have you seen Neukrichner's performance this year so far? Why would BMW want to touch that? He's got to have more going for him than being German. Maybe it's him not being over his injuries, but he clearly isn't the Max of old. It's definitely not an issue with the bike given what Rea is doing with it.

I don't think Max likes the Honda. If he's on his side of the garage crying about his troubles, BMW shouldn't give him a look. If Max still has some motivation, I'd say he's worth a look. It would be great for marketing as well.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (povol @ Apr 26 2010, 09:44 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Does anyone find it a bit weird the reason they are giving for Haslam's poor first race. A punctured tire. When he dropped back to 15-16, they were guessing brake issue. He fought back for an 11th place in race 1. A punctured tire cant get better over the course of a race, can it

He made a mistake in the first race which cost him a lot of time. I think he was running consistently low lap times all day.

If it's suspicious, it's b/c Alstare Suzuki are trying to mask the fact the Pirelli have them a horrible tire. Maybe they don't want to dump on Pirelli.

I Wonder how this championship would pan out using BSB Scoring system.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mylexicon @ Apr 26 2010, 06:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>He made a mistake in the first race which cost him a lot of time. I think he was running consistently low lap times all day.

If it's suspicious, it's b/c Alstare Suzuki are trying to mask the fact the Pirelli have them a horrible tire. Maybe they don't want to dump on Pirelli.

Listening to the commentary from Jack and James I heard that Leons tyre was down to 11 lbs pressure but I`m not starting a conspiracy!

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Otis Driftwood @ Apr 26 2010, 03:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Listening to the commentary from Jack and James I heard that Leons tyre was down to 11 lbs pressure but I`m not starting a conspiracy!
It sound as if a tire technician ...... up and no one double checked. Punctures dont magically stop leaking and lap times dont improve as the tire gets flatter. Im guessing he started with 11 and as the tires heated up it brought the pressure up to a point to where he could ride it a little and he picked off a few spots as a result.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (povol @ Apr 26 2010, 01:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>It sound as if a tire technician ...... up and no one double checked. Punctures dont magically stop leaking and lap times dont improve as the tire gets flatter. Im guessing he started with 11 and as the tires heated up it brought the pressure up to a point to where he could ride it a little and he picked off a few spots as a result.

He was in 6th or 7th place when he missed the Gert Timmer chicane by a country mile. I think he was offline most of the race until he figured out how to ride an under-inflated tire. His performance improved b/c he stopped making bad mistakes towards the end.

FFS what horse .... the wsbk has favoured Duc for yrs extra cc etc get over it,geez


Althea Ducati team owner Genesio Bevilacqua believes the present World Superbike technical rules 'penalise' twin-cylinder motorcycles in terms of acceleration and top speed.

Bevilacqua made the comments after watching Carlos Checa finish as the top Ducati in both of Sunday's Assen races, albeit in fourth and sixth places.

“Today we saw the difference in speed between us and the four cylinders,” he said. “I believe that with the current regulations it is almost impossible to do more with regard to acceleration and, above all, with regard to top speed. The rules penalise the twins.”

Speaking after the races, Checa agreed with his boss.

“Unfortunately there was an obvious difference in acceleration between us and the four cylinders and we weren't 100% there with regard to the rideability of the bike,” said the Spaniard, winner at the more flowing Phillip Island circuit. “Anyway the overall balance was not bad when you look at my results. We have a good package but we are lacking acceleration and speed compared to the four cylinders. I couldn't do more than I did but I'm still fourth in the standings, in what will be a long championship.”

Acceleration isn't officially measured, but top speed figures for the two Assen races did show that Checa and team-mate Shane Byrne were suffering relative to the 'fours', although the factory 1198s of Michel Fabrizio and Noriyuki Haga were unsurprisingly closer to the top.

The bad news for Althea is that top speed will be especially important at the next round of the championship, at Monza.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (levigarrett @ Apr 26 2010, 12:03 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Or because we really enjoy MotoGP and F1 while recognizing that WSBK is typically more exciting. The fact that SBK produces tighter races takes nothing away from the majesty of the other series. They are all fantastic and we're lucky to have all three.

i think you are confused friend. i was talking about people who only watch MotoGP and F1. if you watch WSBK, then you obviously don't fall into that category.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pigeon @ Apr 26 2010, 03:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>FFS what horse .... the wsbk has favoured Duc for yrs extra cc etc get over it,geez


Althea Ducati team owner Genesio Bevilacqua believes the present World Superbike technical rules 'penalise' twin-cylinder motorcycles in terms of acceleration and top speed.

Bevilacqua made the comments after watching Carlos Checa finish as the top Ducati in both of Sunday's Assen races, albeit in fourth and sixth places.

“Today we saw the difference in speed between us and the four cylinders,” he said. “I believe that with the current regulations it is almost impossible to do more with regard to acceleration and, above all, with regard to top speed. The rules penalise the twins.”

Speaking after the races, Checa agreed with his boss.

“Unfortunately there was an obvious difference in acceleration between us and the four cylinders and we weren't 100% there with regard to the rideability of the bike,” said the Spaniard, winner at the more flowing Phillip Island circuit. “Anyway the overall balance was not bad when you look at my results. We have a good package but we are lacking acceleration and speed compared to the four cylinders. I couldn't do more than I did but I'm still fourth in the standings, in what will be a long championship.”

Acceleration isn't officially measured, but top speed figures for the two Assen races did show that Checa and team-mate Shane Byrne were suffering relative to the 'fours', although the factory 1198s of Michel Fabrizio and Noriyuki Haga were unsurprisingly closer to the top.

The bad news for Althea is that top speed will be especially important at the next round of the championship, at Monza.

They want bigger air restrictors.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Mastodon @ Apr 26 2010, 11:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>i think you are confused friend. i was talking about people who only watch MotoGP and F1. if you watch WSBK, then you obviously don't fall into that category.

Some people don't have time to watch 3 world championships, i know i don't

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (povol @ Apr 26 2010, 01:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>It sound as if a tire technician ...... up and no one double checked. Punctures don't magically stop leaking and lap times dont improve as the tire gets flatter. Im guessing he started with 11 and as the tires heated up it brought the pressure up to a point to where he could ride it a little and he picked off a few spots as a result.

Sounds about right.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mylexicon @ Apr 26 2010, 06:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>They want bigger air restrictors.
Unless the Flaminni's go against their own regulations, it will be a weight reduction of 3 kilograms, then after 3 more events, they will do the math and if things are still out whack, it will be another 3 kilogram reduction, then 3 more events. If that doesnt do it, THEN they can start ....... with restrictor plate sizes. Im sure they want everything they can get,but i doubt the powers that be will risk the uproar of preferential treatment at the height of the sports popularity.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pigeon @ Apr 26 2010, 06:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>FFS what horse .... the wsbk has favoured Duc for yrs extra cc etc get over it,geez


Althea Ducati team owner Genesio Bevilacqua believes the present World Superbike technical rules 'penalise' twin-cylinder motorcycles in terms of acceleration and top speed.

Bevilacqua made the comments after watching Carlos Checa finish as the top Ducati in both of Sunday's Assen races, albeit in fourth and sixth places.

“Today we saw the difference in speed between us and the four cylinders,” he said. “I believe that with the current regulations it is almost impossible to do more with regard to acceleration and, above all, with regard to top speed. The rules penalise the twins.”

Speaking after the races, Checa agreed with his boss.

“Unfortunately there was an obvious difference in acceleration between us and the four cylinders and we weren't 100% there with regard to the rideability of the bike,” said the Spaniard, winner at the more flowing Phillip Island circuit. “Anyway the overall balance was not bad when you look at my results. We have a good package but we are lacking acceleration and speed compared to the four cylinders. I couldn't do more than I did but I'm still fourth in the standings, in what will be a long championship.”

Acceleration isn't officially measured, but top speed figures for the two Assen races did show that Checa and team-mate Shane Byrne were suffering relative to the 'fours', although the factory 1198s of Michel Fabrizio and Noriyuki Haga were unsurprisingly closer to the top.

The bad news for Althea is that top speed will be especially important at the next round of the championship, at Monza.
If they are down on acceleration, its due to bad setup. The top speed argument is kind of bogus also since Fabrizio was within 1/2 mph of the top speed registered. The satellite Ducati's are always down on power to the factory bikes, it just the way it is. I find it funny that Ducati sent out a satellite team to beg for regulation change.Everyone knows the factory Ducati has the motor to win in this series, they are having personal problems and dont want to admit it.