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For sure. Scassa did him a favor to erase the puncture Chaz suffered at PI. Chaz is one of the best riders in the entire WSBK/WSS paddock. He'll show it when someone gives him a decent SBK ride.



Mari, you got anymore pics?

yup but Im not a starquality photographer so they're kinda sucky
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rea was doing a breakdance on this pic. where is he, you ask? yes behind the pole...





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thats yves polzer. quite funny, last year I took this pic of him:

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I honestly didnt noticed he was taking off his suit when I took the pic
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he noticed me taking it, came up to me and had a good laugh about it
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hence why I took a pic of him ON the bike instead of off the bike this year
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like i said, you could hear checa miss-shifting his gear, I too thought he did it on purpose. dad said it was 'just' a mistake



Spoke to Checa after the race, said the bike had a false neutral, and to shift again, and that allowed Biaggi past. However, it allowed him to see that Biaggi was having a worse time of it with the tire than Checa was. Checa knew he could get past at that point, just bided his time till the opportunity presented itself. Cool customer...
 
I agree its worring that the likes of checa biaggi and now millandri are pretty much dominating wsb . it really restricts the pregression of your wsb riders hoping to move in to gp . and lets face it no one has set the world alight going from wsb too gp . if i were honda looking at rea i'd be thinking if he can't beat gp has beens hes got no chance against the upper tier gp riders lets look at the young gp 2 riders got the next crop of talent.



its a shame but its the way it looks at the mo



Indeedy



But what better way than to have riders that were contenders in motogp

as your benchmark for newer stars coming up.. if Rea consistently is

up there with them this year, yeah, he'd probably be midpack in motogp.. if

he's blasting off into the sunset, he'd be near the front.. I think

there's alot to be said for being able to sharpen your skills on the

old guy with crazy experience like Biaggi or Checa..



I remember watching the AMA when Spies started, and it was pretty

boring honestly. you could flip a coin as to whether Mladin or Spies

would win, cuz there wasnt going to be anyone else within 20 seconds

at the end, but look how Spies was able to really get a grip on world

class racing because of Mladin.. not to say he wouldnt have anyway,

but without question he was pushed a lot more than if he was just

racing against the others in the AMA.. and now when we see a new star

in WSBK smoking past these tried and true riders, we can expect big

things in the future without a doubt.
 
Spoke to Checa after the race, said the bike had a false neutral, and to shift again, and that allowed Biaggi past. However, it allowed him to see that Biaggi was having a worse time of it with the tire than Checa was. Checa knew he could get past at that point, just bided his time till the opportunity presented itself. Cool customer...

That's where I read it. Sorry I blanked, man. For all your motorsports news, check out motomatters! Also, the work Matt Birt, Michael Guy, and Gary Pinchin put in for Motorcycle News isn't bad, either.
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I agree that Spies injected a lot of excitement into world superbike because riders coming up through the superbike ranks to major success is relatively rare and was refreshing. But i totally disagree with the idea that he dominated, you cannot dominate from behind and you cannot dominate without consistency. No matter what the reasons were, the fact that the title battle went to the wire means that no one rider dominated. For me domination has to be relentless success in all circumstances, an ominous succession of results that leave the competion fairly hopeless. Haga lined up at the final round with a very reasonable chance of being champion, as far as i am concerned that fact alone negates any talk of domination.

Your last sentence fails to meaningfully analyze and account for what actually made the situation so close in the final round Tom.
 
Do remember that he got on the podium on his very first full time GP ride. He also finsihed 4th in 1998 behind Doohan, Biaggi and Criville all the while missing 3 races. I believe he even led the championship in the first 5 races back in 2000.

Up until 2006 he's always been a top 5 runner, sometimes worse, sometimes bettter. Doing this while pretty much always being on a Yamaha, certainly not considered to be the best bike on the grid during those days.

Huub, I know, he's decent, but 1998? I've read a few here make a case for Checa. (Btw, I don't dislike the guy, except I still haven't forgave him for that career changing torpedo he put on Max N.). But like Cliche here, I'm just thinking WSBK is weak if a guy as old as him (yes, still fast) is leading the series in decided fashion. I think Austin pretty much nailed it, in saying he's in the right place at the right time. But even then, I don't think it bodes well for a series. But maybe its me with the short sightedness, but my gut feeling is that Checa's Ducati & Biaggi's Aprilia are making these two look much better than they really are. I rate Rae and Haslam much better riders but you would barely know it from the results so for. If Checa & Biaggi are as good as they seem, then we are getting cheated in GP.







Mari, those are great pics and nice write up. However, when do you start posting the umbrella girl pics?
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Thanks for the pics, Mari.



Someone sent me a link to an article at asphalt and rubber. They are reporting that Biaggi got caught with an illegal fuel pump during scrutiny but no penalty was issued.
 
Huub, I know, he's decent, but 1998? I've read a few here make a case for Checa. (Btw, I don't dislike the guy, except I still haven't forgave him for that career changing torpedo he put on Max N.). But like Cliche here, I'm just thinking WSBK is weak if a guy as old as him (yes, still fast) is leading the series in decided fashion. I think Austin pretty much nailed it, in saying he's in the right place at the right time. But even then, I don't think it bodes well for a series. But maybe its me with the short sightedness, but my gut feeling is that Checa's Ducati & Biaggi's Aprilia are making these two look much better than they really are. I rate Rae and Haslam much better riders but you would barely know it from the results so for. If Checa & Biaggi are as good as they seem, then we are getting cheated in GP.







Mari, those are great pics and nice write up. However, when do you start posting the umbrella girl pics?
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damn, i already forgot about that

may i change my opinion about checa ? f--- that old geezer, max should be on that bike on his way to win the title
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the 1198 is better than ever and aprilia make questionable updates during the season and call them evolution kits...guess that kind of takes away from their success and from what superbikes should be all about
 
Huub, I know, he's decent, but 1998? I've read a few here make a case for Checa. (Btw, I don't dislike the guy, except I still haven't forgave him for that career changing torpedo he put on Max N.). But like Cliche here, I'm just thinking WSBK is weak if a guy as old as him (yes, still fast) is leading the series in decided fashion. I think Austin pretty much nailed it, in saying he's in the right place at the right time. But even then, I don't think it bodes well for a series. But maybe its me with the short sightedness, but my gut feeling is that Checa's Ducati & Biaggi's Aprilia are making these two look much better than they really are. I rate Rae and Haslam much better riders but you would barely know it from the results so for. If Checa & Biaggi are as good as they seem, then we are getting cheated in GP.







Mari, those are great pics and nice write up. However, when do you start posting the umbrella girl pics?
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FAIL!! All rubbish!
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Next......



Checca is riding well, is calm, collected and doing exactly what it takes to be champion. There're plenty of solid riders that have thus far failed to consistently beat him.
 
Huub, I know, he's decent, but 1998? I've read a few here make a case for Checa. (Btw, I don't dislike the guy, except I still haven't forgave him for that career changing torpedo he put on Max N.). But like Cliche here, I'm just thinking WSBK is weak if a guy as old as him (yes, still fast) is leading the series in decided fashion. I think Austin pretty much nailed it, in saying he's in the right place at the right time. But even then, I don't think it bodes well for a series. But maybe its me with the short sightedness, but my gut feeling is that Checa's Ducati & Biaggi's Aprilia are making these two look much better than they really are. I rate Rae and Haslam much better riders but you would barely know it from the results so for. If Checa & Biaggi are as good as they seem, then we are getting cheated in GP.



Imo, Checa's comfortable lead is the result of poor performances from Max Biaggi and Marco Melandri. Max jumped the start and then received a black flag at Donnington. Marco threw it away during race 2 last weekend at Assen.



If Max and Marco had remained upright, I think Checa's lead would be about half as large as it is now.
 
You can say that again...



Though i think being in a team like this without any pressure is good for him after last year.



I think the season of getting beat by his buddy Spies the rookie - must have been the final straw

psychologically.
 
The success of the Ducati this season is certainly odd. I can't fathom that it's simply the result of a weight change to the bike. Last season Ducati's SBK effort seemed to be without direction. Haga and Fabrizio never appeared to particularly get along and the team was without leadership. Additionally, Haga seemed to be beaten, I'm not so sure he had the effort in him last year and all of these factors came together to scuttle the team.



Checca seems to be in a very different place. He's alone on the team, with factory support and a fair amount of experience on the machine. He's also exuding the confidence of someone who believe's he's got what it takes. Haga had very little of that last year. Checca is getting every ounce from the machine and thus far has failed to make a mistake on track. We'll see if that continues.



On the other side of this is Biaggi? What's his problem so far? We know the bike is solid yet he's done almost nothing to help himself. I think Marco will be there all season long and will challenge for the title. I like the way season is coming together.



Jumkie,



As for why there's little action here? Simply, no boppers. Most bop's can hardly name the entire grid in MotoGP and will certainly be unfamiliar with SBK.
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With no interest in moto-racing that does not include Rossi, they're absent from these threads. Additionally, you had the sudden American interest created by Speez in 09 and without him, his fanboy's are also absent. That leaves us!



Shhhh....
 
it was said earlier not enough boppers her for those antics.



but i'm loving the way the season is shaping up and also the way checa appeers to be playing with peoples minds in qaulifying bugger all from him for 2 days think he may of been in top spot maybe twice over the whole weekend them BAM last lap of superpole 3 he pulls a rabbit out oif his ... . can't wait for the races tomorrow .



but gutted haslem does not look like getting his first wim on the beemer yet and it looks more like it would be corser at assen going off some shows of greet speed today .



looking great bring it on
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And WTF is the deal with BMW electronics this year? I don't recall them having these kind of issues the first season. Why now?



The Aprilia seems to have lost some of its edge since the loss of the gear driven cams. Or is it

that Biaggi is just off his game?
 
Thanks for the pics, Mari.



Someone sent me a link to an article at asphalt and rubber. They are reporting that Biaggi got caught with an illegal fuel pump during scrutiny but no penalty was issued.



I smell conspiracy.
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Imo, Checa's comfortable lead is the result of poor performances from Max Biaggi and Marco Melandri. Max jumped the start and then received a black flag at Donnington. Marco threw it away during race 2 last weekend at Assen.



If Max and Marco had remained upright, I think Checa's lead would be about half as large as it is now.



Whats that ole saying about IF a frog had wings.
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And WTF is the deal with BMW electronics this year? I don't recall them having these kind of issues the first season. Why now?



The Aprilia seems to have lost some of its edge since the loss of the gear driven cams. Or is it

that Biaggi is just off his game?

The Aprilia is still the straight line monster of all the bikes, Biaggi is just not riding like he did last year. He made enough mistakes at Donington to fill up a years worth of racing.
 
Whats that ole saying about IF a frog had wings.
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Only if you consider Checa to be a bird. All of the rider's are roughly the same so my remarks have no similarity to cliches about transmogrified animals.



The championship gap has everything to do with execution. If execution (not form) is the problem, then I doubt the Ducati has a significant advantage regardless of what the scoreboard says.
 
Only if you consider Checa to be a bird. All of the rider's are roughly the same so my remarks have no similarity to cliches about transmogrified animals.



The championship gap has everything to do with execution. If execution (not form) is the problem, then I doubt the Ducati has a significant advantage regardless of what the scoreboard says.



It does rather seem (at this early stage in the game) that Checa, bike, team etc have achieved Perfect Storm status this year.

Good on him. Nice to see him have his year to shine. Conversely sad to see guys like him as they go into decline ala Duhammel,

Corser, Chili etc.
 
Fair enough, then i assume that you disagree with Austins comment as well, 'Not only was 2002 the greatest Superbike season of all time, I think Edwards dominated that series as has never been seen before or since.. He was consistent,but had less wins than the guy he beat for the title.



I think the thing that made the 2002 season so speacial was the way it was so clearly divided into halves. Bayliss dominated the first half of the season but Edwards didn't give anyone a chance in the second half. Neither rider dominated the season the way Foggy had dominated some of his championships. So yes i suppose i don't agree with Austin's statement.



Your last sentence fails to meaningfully analyze and account for what actually made the situation so close in the final round Tom.



My entire point is that it doesn't matter, you can analyze and account for things all day long but for me a rider can't dominate a season with the number of points he would have had if everything had gone his way, its the points he has that count



Which brings us back to my question of what could Biaggi have done on an 800?



Nothing, he left GP for a reason.
 

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