<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Talpa @ Nov 22 2009, 01:37 AM)
<{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Maybe, but my point was it was cursed for all riders! Thank you for agreeing and adding some
Rossi hate in, didn't ask for that......
Aren't the riders suppose to develop the bike so they can win on it? Checa, Barros and Biaggi all came with big dollars and lots of experience, do you think that Yamaha only wanted to start winning after they signed VR?
How do you know the engine options weren't available to the others, and when they were in 04, why was VR still the only one to win on it ?
Bias Memory.....
What's wrong with you buddy? Rossi hate? How does anything I said carry any connotations of hatred for God's sake? You've gotta love this forum. I've been branded a Rossi Bopper and now a Rossi hater by two of the more erractically minded members within the space of four effin' days. Since you appeared on this forum, it seems you're practically incapable of posting on any other subject other than VR. You seem fixated on the fact that people are intent on besmirching his name. You're like one of those over protective Mothers, who scream child abuse the instant their little brat is scolded at school.
I don't hate Rossi. Why should I? There are elements of his character that aren't quite a 'Saintly' as devotees such as yourself would have us believe, but why would I hate him? What is there to hate - he's the GOAT. I am passionate about the sport of motorcycle racing, so I say again, what is there to hate? He has the natural talent of Hailwood or Spencer, the fight and spectacle of Schwantz, the mental fortitude of Doohan and the charisma of Sheene all rolled into one rider. We will probably never see his like again, and should be thankful that we have been privileged to witness this era of racing which he has defined.
What I do hate is this blind religious fanatacism, which breeds ten times the hatred that it purports to receive. Make the slightest derogatory comment against the Doctor, and there's an immediate Powerslide fatwa issued by the same members on here. I didn't agree with most of Bunyip's recent posts, but the reaction on here was akin to reciting 'The Satanic Verses' through a public address system in downtown Terhan. What happened to Casey this summer happened to Sheene, in '78 I believe, - exacerbated by the psychological impact of the arrival of a very fast dirt tracker from Modesto on a very fast YZR500. It seems at the route of Casey's illness was chronic fatigue syndrome - and the reaction on here was vitriolic. I call that
hatred. For all his obvious foibles, Casey earns himself few fans outside of Oz, but the hatred directed at him by Brit fans in particular is unnecessary and uncalled for. Vale seems superhuman - but he is in fact vulnerable like the rest of us, and if this had befallen him, then maybe he wouldn't have hung the 'gone fishing' sign up outside the garage for three races, in fact I believe he would have raced, but imagine your outrage Talpa when people began to speculate about his illness and deride him. Casey's return was breathtaking, and had it not had been for the ridiculous warm up strategy at Valencia, he would have won there as well.
It's as if you're on some personal crusade to uphold the Church of Rossi, and that's your sole - or 'soul' mission on Powerslide. You have been sent amongst us to preach the gospel according to Valentino, and that's your only purpose. I can picture you donning your homemade banana yellow vestments/habit emblazoned with diamante 46's, suns, moons, and bulldogs every morning at dawn and dusk. Do you have an altar that faces east towards Urbino - is it like the hag?...the sworn of every Rossi worshipper such as yourself to visit there at least once in their lifetime, and do you follow the Tavullia Tabernacle loyally around the world and genuflect in reverence as it and it's holy cargo reverses into its hallowed slot behind the garage every race?.....
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A further little item to adorn your altar..
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To answer your questions:
1/ Yes all riders are supposed to develop the bikes so that they can win on it - it's just that some are better than others in this department,
and some are afforded greater resources than others. Of course Yamaha wanted and believed that they could win, just as Suzuki want to win, (actually, I'm not so sure about this). They realised as a condition of signing Rossi, just as it was a condition to resigning him post the ingnominious years of '06 and '07 they had to substantially up their game...which they did. Rossi brings with him a whole new set of rules, largely because he is able to write them. This is precisely why some have been speculating on here what would happen if Rossi and Burgess went to Suzuki with a similar open chequebook. The current ludicrous ultimatum over Lorenzo is a case in point. "It's my bike and I developed it". As if the wall wasn't bad enough, the drama in the Fiat Yamaha garage gets more 'Daniesque' by the nano-second. It's like the kid in the park who owns the football and threatens to stop play by going home unless he gets his own way. If Jorge's performance had mirrored Colin's on that bike then as we all know there wouldn't be an issue. Take off your yellow tinted glasses for once Talpa.
2/ Yoda tabled four engine redesigns - not simply firing orders, of which Rossi chose the long bang. Further to this making the power more manageable and softening it, it also meant that the M1 sacrificed top end and acceleration, which in many ways made Vale's achievement in '04 even more remarkable. The M1 was unquestionably still inferior to the RC211v during that year.
3/ No one else could win on the bike because in this sport the rider makes the difference, (so why not give Casey some kudos now and then), and Valentino was, and to a lesser degree is, a class above the rest. There was no elite four then, but both Sete and Max were quick enough to ruffle Osvaldo's feathers from time to time. But I say again, even Vale would not have won a title on the original screamer.
Talpa, hello? Valentino is a human being - yes I'm aware he rides like a God, and his talents seem divinely blessed and inspired, but appreciate....are you sitting down for this one?......he is like any human being and sportsman flawed - there's always something that even Rossi can improve - a frightening thought for his rivals indeed. Now go away and by next week preferably in no more than 500 words try and concoct a post which actually accepts that this might be the case. No, actually, try and make a post which doesn't mention Rossi, just see if you can.
Rossi hater? get real Talpa, I don't hate Rossi, just this mindless fundamentalist like fanatacism that this forum terms 'Bopperism'
