<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pigeon @ Oct 26 2009, 08:20 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>i think he's about done he dont have to proof nothing to anybody end of 2010 retire while fit n healthy.
i think your wrong. i think he's more motivated now than he's been since 2000. the guy thrives on competition & he's as competitive as ever & has more competition than ever. the challenge is only going to get greater...... he my leave yamaha but he's not gonna leave bike racing anytime soon! thats good for all of us!!!!!
i think your wrong. i think he's more motivated now than he's been since 2000. the guy thrives on competition & he's as competitive as ever & has more competition than ever. the challenge is only going to get greater...... he my leave yamaha but he's not gonna leave bike racing anytime soon! thats good for all of us!!!!!
“Valentino is a very, very important rider for Yamaha, and also Jorge is, but especially Valentino…My goal in MotoGP is winning with Valentino,” Furusawa is one of the head of whole team, but too openly and often expresses his preference to Rossi over Lorenzo as if he really wants to get rid of Lorenzo to please him. He may be thinking of retiring at the same time as Rossi. I think it was Lin Javis who convinced Lorenzo to stay not Furusawa. No one will question how great Rossi is as a rider. But, as a person of important position in the team, he should be more equal toward both riders at least on public. If the technical director of the team said his goal is winning with Rossi so frankly, I do not think any title contender wants to stay there. I think it is Lorenzo who moves out of Yamaha and maybe join Honda.
Yamaha is family but Rossi needs to seal the deal and prove to the world that he can be champion on every single bike. It might be a little hard reaching 122 if he decides to move to Ducati, but the guy needs to ride the Italian before his days are over.
Hi everyone, I'm new here.. and thought this is a nice topic to also say hi to all of you.
It's funny how after 2006, we've drifted off from the oh-so-wondered-about man-machine equation into so many other factors.. no other sport throws us so many questions! These few years especially post-2006, post the 990's, we've stumbled upon so much variance, that attempt each time to fit Rossi "the individual" somewhere. Well, we can't.. be he Rossi, or anyone else.
Is it too far-fetched a fantasy to see them all shuffle across different machinery, just so we get to see how true the man-machine equation is after all!
Concerning the article, I guess it is too hard to read into media interviews. I personally would like Rossi finish on the Yam; will emotion outscore the intellect, I don't know.. but I hope it gets just as entertaining as it's so far been
It's funny how after 2006, we've drifted off from the oh-so-wondered-about man-machine equation into so many other factors.. no other sport throws us so many questions! These few years especially post-2006, post the 990's, we've stumbled upon so much variance, that attempt each time to fit Rossi "the individual" somewhere. Well, we can't.. be he Rossi, or anyone else.
Is it too far-fetched a fantasy to see them all shuffle across different machinery, just so we get to see how true the man-machine equation is after all!
Concerning the article, I guess it is too hard to read into media interviews. I personally would like Rossi finish on the Yam; will emotion outscore the intellect, I don't know.. but I hope it gets just as entertaining as it's so far been
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Sarita @ Oct 27 2009, 06:37 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Hi everyone, I'm new here.. and thought this is a nice topic to also say hi to all of you.
It's funny how after 2006, we've drifted off from the oh-so-wondered-about man-machine equation into so many other factors.. no other sport throws us so many questions! These few years especially post-2006, post the 990's, we've stumbled upon so much variance, that attempt each time to fit Rossi "the individual" somewhere. Well, we can't.. be he Rossi, or anyone else.
Is it too far-fetched a fantasy to see them all shuffle across different machinery, just so we get to see how true the man-machine equation is after all!
Concerning the article, I guess it is too hard to read into media interviews. I personally would like Rossi finish on the Yam; will emotion outscore the intellect, I don't know.. but I hope it gets just as entertaining as it's so far been
Hello Sarira, welcome to the Forum, it’s fun even though sometimes we get carried away and to deep into discussions, but I guess we try to learn that it is not really personal, but part of other people’s points of view. Which, taken the right way, will always illustrate each of us so we all end up learning more.
On the subject, I think too that Rossi will stay at Yamaha (And personally hope so). Though Marlboro may throw the house out the window to get him!
It's funny how after 2006, we've drifted off from the oh-so-wondered-about man-machine equation into so many other factors.. no other sport throws us so many questions! These few years especially post-2006, post the 990's, we've stumbled upon so much variance, that attempt each time to fit Rossi "the individual" somewhere. Well, we can't.. be he Rossi, or anyone else.
Is it too far-fetched a fantasy to see them all shuffle across different machinery, just so we get to see how true the man-machine equation is after all!
Concerning the article, I guess it is too hard to read into media interviews. I personally would like Rossi finish on the Yam; will emotion outscore the intellect, I don't know.. but I hope it gets just as entertaining as it's so far been
Hello Sarira, welcome to the Forum, it’s fun even though sometimes we get carried away and to deep into discussions, but I guess we try to learn that it is not really personal, but part of other people’s points of view. Which, taken the right way, will always illustrate each of us so we all end up learning more.
On the subject, I think too that Rossi will stay at Yamaha (And personally hope so). Though Marlboro may throw the house out the window to get him!
Rossi: “"Some of those things make me smile. Sometimes rumors have a basis in truth, but not in this case. I don't understand where they come from, but I suppose they are based more on hope. Many people would love to see me go to Ducati, but there's no truth in this. I will 100% for sure stay with Yamaha in 2010".
Other statements from the Article:
…Crew chief Jerry Burgess has said that he will continue to work as long as Valentino Rossi is racing, but Burgess has expressed no desire to go through the rigmarole of leaving one employer for another yet again…
…There is good reason to doubt that Preziosi's approach and Burgess and Rossi's approach are compatible…
… Then there's the record books. If Valentino Rossi has a goal, it is to establish himself as the greatest racer of all time, and beat the records set by his compatriot Giacomo Agostini. Rossi is currently 20 victories short of Agostini's all time win record (or 19, depending on whether you count Ago's F750 victory or not) and 2 titles short of Ago's premier class championships…
… Rossi's best chance of hitting the record books therefore rests with stability…
…It could still happen. It's just not very likely.
http://www.motomatters.com/news/2009/10/16...ors_more_i.html
Other statements from the Article:
…Crew chief Jerry Burgess has said that he will continue to work as long as Valentino Rossi is racing, but Burgess has expressed no desire to go through the rigmarole of leaving one employer for another yet again…
…There is good reason to doubt that Preziosi's approach and Burgess and Rossi's approach are compatible…
… Then there's the record books. If Valentino Rossi has a goal, it is to establish himself as the greatest racer of all time, and beat the records set by his compatriot Giacomo Agostini. Rossi is currently 20 victories short of Agostini's all time win record (or 19, depending on whether you count Ago's F750 victory or not) and 2 titles short of Ago's premier class championships…
… Rossi's best chance of hitting the record books therefore rests with stability…
…It could still happen. It's just not very likely.
http://www.motomatters.com/news/2009/10/16...ors_more_i.html
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I really hope that Valentino comes over to his heritage and homeland team. There is no need to continue with Yamaha since they are clearly in the Jorge camp and looking towards the future. The japanese have no care or aligence to anyone except themselves and that has been seen time after time. If there is one company that does sorta break that mold I would have to say it is Yamaha but they are still rooted in the japanese way. The Italian way is more passionate and with a flair for the fun and outgoing, this is Valentino. So Vale' time to come home just like Ago did when he wanted to finish out his career with MV Agusta. You know Ducati will give you anything you want and not sign your teammate to a deal you wanted. Ducati knows loyalty and rewards it as well. You know your blood is calling you, that is why the Factory ducati is always painted DUcati blood red!!!!!!!!
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ROCKGOD01 @ Oct 27 2009, 05:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>You know Ducati will give you anything you want and not sign your teammate to a deal you wanted. Ducati knows loyalty and rewards it as well. You know your blood is calling you, that is why the Factory ducati is always painted DUcati blood red!!!!!!!!
i'm sure Loris would like to piss all over those romantic notions of yours. how exactly was he rewarded again?
i'm sure Loris would like to piss all over those romantic notions of yours. how exactly was he rewarded again?
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BigAl @ Oct 27 2009, 07:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>i'm sure Loris would like to piss all over those romantic notions of yours. how exactly was he rewarded again?
The list goes on....Neil Hodgson- exiled to AMA on an uncompetitive 999, Troy's dismissal from Moto GP project, JT's departure from Fila Ducati. Philip Morris aside, I suspect that the powers that be in Bologna were unfairly even losing patience with Casey this summer.
Crucially, Rossi's perception of Ducati's racing philosophy places it as being very similar in its ethos to HRC - it's the machine that makes the difference - the rider is to a certain extent privileged to be availed with the machinery.
I have never seen them as being particularly loyal to their riders, with the exception of Foggy perhaps - who they immediately resigned after his defection to Honda.
The list goes on....Neil Hodgson- exiled to AMA on an uncompetitive 999, Troy's dismissal from Moto GP project, JT's departure from Fila Ducati. Philip Morris aside, I suspect that the powers that be in Bologna were unfairly even losing patience with Casey this summer.
Crucially, Rossi's perception of Ducati's racing philosophy places it as being very similar in its ethos to HRC - it's the machine that makes the difference - the rider is to a certain extent privileged to be availed with the machinery.
I have never seen them as being particularly loyal to their riders, with the exception of Foggy perhaps - who they immediately resigned after his defection to Honda.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BigAl @ Oct 27 2009, 01:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>i'm sure Loris would like to piss all over those romantic notions of yours. how exactly was he rewarded again?
God Al... You made my day... I almost piss my pants!
God Al... You made my day... I almost piss my pants!
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ROCKGOD01 @ Oct 28 2009, 12:09 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I really hope that Valentino comes over to his heritage and homeland team. There is no need to continue with Yamaha since they are clearly in the Jorge camp and looking towards the future. The japanese have no care or aligence to anyone except themselves and that has been seen time after time.
Rock... apparently you missed this part while you were fantasizing:
“Valentino is a very, very important rider for Yamaha, and also Jorge is, but especially Valentino…My goal in MotoGP is winning with Valentino,” Furusawasan
Rock... apparently you missed this part while you were fantasizing:
“Valentino is a very, very important rider for Yamaha, and also Jorge is, but especially Valentino…My goal in MotoGP is winning with Valentino,” Furusawasan
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BigAl @ Oct 27 2009, 01:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>i'm sure Loris would like to piss all over those romantic notions of yours. how exactly was he rewarded again?
I almost could imagine Ducati calling Rossi a week before the date, asking him out for a romantic evening in which Ducati would invite Rossi to a Ballet, then for a nice quiet dinner at a fine restaurant, perhaps a dance before the petit meal, and the waiter waiting to serve that expensive whine… when all of the sudden, Capirossi (Ex) appears and pisses all over the table!
Really Al, you made me laugh!
I almost could imagine Ducati calling Rossi a week before the date, asking him out for a romantic evening in which Ducati would invite Rossi to a Ballet, then for a nice quiet dinner at a fine restaurant, perhaps a dance before the petit meal, and the waiter waiting to serve that expensive whine… when all of the sudden, Capirossi (Ex) appears and pisses all over the table!
Really Al, you made me laugh!
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (VHMP01 @ Oct 28 2009, 02:15 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I almost could imagine Ducati calling Rossi a week before the date, asking him out for a romantic evening in which Ducati would invite Rossi to a Ballet, then for a nice quiet dinner at a fine restaurant, perhaps a dance before the petit meal, and the waiter waiting to serve that expensive whine… when all of the sudden, Capirossi (Ex) appears and pisses all over the table!
Really Al, you made me laugh!
life is too random to be taken seriously, glad to have sparked up your day V..
Really Al, you made me laugh!
life is too random to be taken seriously, glad to have sparked up your day V..
Yam is winning the championship but losing business. Yam's president stepped down by taking the responsibility for the bad financial performance yesterday. They are expecting the massive net loss for 1.82B USD this year. They do not seem to be able to avoid the layoff. No doubt Rossi will ask for pay raise, but I do not think they can afford his salary as much as Furusawa wants. Only Marbolo can do. It will be perfect ending to his career to move to Ducati and win another championship. Even he does not win, it will not diminish his achievements.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (moto3 @ Oct 28 2009, 11:36 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Yam is winning the championship but losing business. Yam's president stepped down by taking the responsibility for the bad financial performance yesterday. They are expecting the massive net loss for 1.82B USD this year. They do not seem to be able to avoid the layoff. No doubt Rossi will ask for pay raise, but I do not think they can afford his salary as much as Furusawa wants. Only Marbolo can do. It will be perfect ending to his career to move to Ducati and win another championship. Even he does not win, it will not diminish his achievements.
This is exactly where I would wish to see emotion win over greed and perhaps even the lure of a lone team in Ducati. If Rossi jumps ship for money alone, it is not going to be an exciting switch either for him or the audience; and as as far as I can see it, money has never been his sole motivation to race. Hopping over to the Ducati is too convenient an option but not attractive.
This is exactly where I would wish to see emotion win over greed and perhaps even the lure of a lone team in Ducati. If Rossi jumps ship for money alone, it is not going to be an exciting switch either for him or the audience; and as as far as I can see it, money has never been his sole motivation to race. Hopping over to the Ducati is too convenient an option but not attractive.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Sarita @ Oct 28 2009, 06:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>This is exactly where I would wish to see emotion win over greed and perhaps even the lure of a lone team in Ducati. If Rossi jumps ship for money alone, it is not going to be an exciting switch either for him or the audience; and as as far as I can see it, money has never been his sole motivation to race. Hopping over to the Ducati is too convenient an option but not attractive.
I agree Sarita. Honda had better financial resources and Rossi still jumped ship. There’s the ‘Passion for the Sport’ factor in Rossi. Also there is Fiat, which is an Italian Sponsor, maybe willing to pay the increased bill to still have their name on the Podium frequently. Anyhow, I think Fiat owns Ferrari, so as long as Marlboro pays Ferrari’s bills; indirectly they are also paying Rossi’s at Yamaha (Pure speculation of mine I know).
About Yamaha loses (in this worlds crisis), welcome to the world, few Companies have not reported net loss. And consider that Yamaha Motor, Marine, Music are involved in their Business, I guess the Bikes (with Rossi winning) are the only ones doing a bit better, why let go your main publicity strength?
Silly Season 2011 here we go!
I agree Sarita. Honda had better financial resources and Rossi still jumped ship. There’s the ‘Passion for the Sport’ factor in Rossi. Also there is Fiat, which is an Italian Sponsor, maybe willing to pay the increased bill to still have their name on the Podium frequently. Anyhow, I think Fiat owns Ferrari, so as long as Marlboro pays Ferrari’s bills; indirectly they are also paying Rossi’s at Yamaha (Pure speculation of mine I know).
About Yamaha loses (in this worlds crisis), welcome to the world, few Companies have not reported net loss. And consider that Yamaha Motor, Marine, Music are involved in their Business, I guess the Bikes (with Rossi winning) are the only ones doing a bit better, why let go your main publicity strength?
Silly Season 2011 here we go!
