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I dont hate motogp, I ....... Hate Midgets.
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Fuel limitations doesnt really affect lap records. In qualifying, they are not restricted to fuel, and during the race, normally the fastest laps happen before the fuel computer kicks into full savior mode, and the tires still have good grip. Tires may be a different story. I guess they could build a super tire that would make up the difference of a couple of thousand rpm and lower tech electronics, but i doubt it. If they do go this route, bring back qualifiers, so knuckle draggers like me can see his beloved lap records, at least in qualifying.
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Oh, so your saying that you among others, knew that the 800cc formula was going to lead to processional racing and unpleasant restrictions. Wow, You are an expert!. What you are is full of ..... Just like any other debate, you walk the fence never offering solutions. Take the DMG debacle, you were for it before you were against it. You were all about running off the factories and performance indexing, until it proved disastrous in the paying customers eye. You preaching the same .... in GP but your being a little more careful not to actually take a side, or offer a solution to avoid any blowback when your proven wrong, like you were in AMA. Your a pretty smart guy, a master at walking the fence and talking in circles, but like any politician, i see through you.
There is no side to take. The black-white, right-wrong, interpersonal-conflict-driven world you have created is a figment of your own imagination. I know conclusively that it is wrong to turn MotoGP into a country club for Fortune 500 manufacturers and sycophant fans. I know that much. I don't presume to know the one absolutely-correct course of action. I'm open to many different ideas.
I've offered dozens of ideas from 24L rev limited competition (displacement restrictions, but no bore or cylinder restrictions) to fuel indexing. The former solution is prototype WSBK (which would be incredible to watch), and the latter is an experimental new way to maintain fuel-limited formulas without ruining the cost curve. I'm not interested in imposing my ideas on other people, but I'm keen to make sure they don't impose their corporate hegemony on me or hijack a sport that is supposedly run for the good of motorcycling and motorcyclists.
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Im smart enough to realize that bike racing is never going to be a mainstream sport. The last 10 years have been an anomaly, and its starting to recede back to its normal state. Moto GP is not a series run for the good of motorcycling and motorcyclist, that would be more like the AMA. GP is about engineering, and the brand recognition that goes along with the engineering. Hijack the sport ?, they are the sport. Without them you will have a grid full of bikes that Colin Edwards can proclaim as pieces of .....
You're not smart enough, you're boring enough to pigeon-hole MotoGP into a narrowly defined set of parameters that achieve no purpose other than satisfying your unstable psychology, which stems from your misconceptions about the relationship between consumers and producers.
GP's status quo is a conscious decision, made by the GPC. They decided to give control of the rulebook to the MSMA. They agreed to collectively bargain with the MSMA for commercial revenue. They agreed to ban production-based machinery in 2003. These were business decisions, not moral virtues. Many of the decisions made by the GPC have had negative long-term consequences, and only the most ignorant fans would support the status quo in light of recent events. Thankfully, the mismanagement by Francisco Zerbi has been slowly unwound, but the MSMA still control the rulebook. If they used their power to do something good for the sport, they wouldn't be in this situation. Sadly, the MSMA use the rulebook to limit the number of competitors, which inflames bile ducts and causes financial problems.
The MSMA are their own worst enemy. If you support corporate chicanery, you will be disappointed for the rest of your life.
I find some midgets cute sure, but personally they don't do enough for me top want to .... them
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,, to the original question?
the short answer for me: motogp hasn't lived up to it's title as the pinnacle of motorcycle racing, in years.
~because
Costs have made it so that only 4 bikes can win (this year is the exception the sat-bikes are exceptionally close to the factory bikes.) Win the feeder class and get promoted to a satellite Ducati, where you will be labeled forever "slow", because of the stt bike. It's easy to hate when you know the outcome of the race before the race, being down to one of three riders.. everyone else on the grid simply doesn't matter. For me,, only real racers want to win. Cal and Dovi are the first to be vocal about it and I applaud that,> "Factory bike or fck you gp!,, we'll race in SBK where we have a chance to win". BRAVO!
Personally, if I could buy the same internet coverage for WSBK as I have on motogp.com, I would have left gp this year after many years (but still would watch moto2), I've simply had enough of 2 or 3 bike break away first lap snore fests,, hardly pinnacle of motorcycle racing. Unfortunately I'm stuck with spotty inconsistent coverage of WSBK on SPEED channel. Even though it's tape delayed, they still run commercial breaks every 10 minutes without stopping the tape. I watched Silverstone race 1,,, after every commercial break SPEED returned to the action with a new running order, but SPEED never showed the pass,,, no rewind! So the only way to satisfy my motorcycle race addiction is to subscribe to gp.com.
,,it's too easy to hate the current state of motogp and it's corrupt, vision-less guiding force - Carmelo Ezplaneta (sorry about the spelling)
,, to the original question?
the short answer for me: motogp hasn't lived up to it's title as the pinnacle of motorcycle racing, in years.
~because
Costs have made it so that only 4 bikes can win (this year is the exception the sat-bikes are exceptionally close to the factory bikes.) Win the feeder class and get promoted to a satellite Ducati, where you will be labeled forever "slow", because of the stt bike. It's easy to hate when you know the outcome of the race before the race, being down to one of three riders.. everyone else on the grid simply doesn't matter. For me,, only real racers want to win. Cal and Dovi are the first to be vocal about it and I applaud that,> "Factory bike or fck you gp!,, we'll race in SBK where we have a chance to win". BRAVO!
Personally, if I could buy the same internet coverage for WSBK as I have on motogp.com, I would have left gp this year after many years (but still would watch moto2), I've simply had enough of 2 or 3 bike break away first lap snore fests,, hardly pinnacle of motorcycle racing. Unfortunately I'm stuck with spotty inconsistent coverage of WSBK on SPEED channel. Even though it's tape delayed, they still run commercial breaks every 10 minutes without stopping the tape. I watched Silverstone race 1,,, after every commercial break SPEED returned to the action with a new running order, but SPEED never showed the pass,,, no rewind! So the only way to satisfy my motorcycle race addiction is to subscribe to gp.com.
,,it's too easy to hate the current state of motogp and it's corrupt, vision-less guiding force - Carmelo Ezplaneta (sorry about the spelling)
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... INCARNATE!!What??? You don't like midgets? What's not to love?
