why is Pedrosa so unpopular on this board

[mse]

i can´t say that i´m a huge Fan of him, but i don´t dislike him
so whats the deal with all the negativ stuff on this board about him?
can someone explain it to mee?

 

[Marijke]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (AlexdeAngelis-Fan @ Feb 10 2008, 03:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>i can´t say that i´m a huge Fan of him, but i don´t dislike him
so whats the deal with all the negativ stuff on this board about him?
can someone explain it to mee?
everybody is probably scared he's going to kick their favourite riders ... next season. it's all fear if you ask me

 

[ogunski]

I do not hate Pedrosa. He is an extremely talented and fast motogp rider. He is fun to poke fun at though. It probably has something to do with the sense of entitlement he seems to project. He also seems to belittle his harder working American (world Champion) counterpart. So, he may win a premier series Championship some day, at which point he will probably get the respect he would have earned. In the meantime he is either beloved by his fans, or disliked by his non-fans. Also until the season starts we have to amuse ourselves some how, and, it is easier to make fun of someone the size of small child.

 

[chopperman]

i think there are 2 main reasons. like biaggi and gibbers before him he is a bit of a dry personality and not very endearing.
second. the haystack fans hate him because of 06 estoril and some thing's pedro has been reported to be saying about nicky.
i like to love someone and hate another, just adds spice to the sport. when i say hate i mean it loosely,i dont hate him but i sure laugh when he ..... up.

 

[BigAl]

i recognise his undoubted talent and ability to ride that repsol honda to its maximum...

i even gave the guy a bit of respect with the way he went about his season in '07. put his head down and raced, walked out of press conferences when journos asked the wrong question to many times and didnt seem to ..... about tyres too much.

then he says the 07 bike was badly developed by hayden, and acts like a smug little jumped up prick who is entitled to a WC and the whole world should be licking his balls...

i was even prepared to overlook all that but in the end, i just cant support someone who has the best job in the world and he cant even ....... smile about it!

 

[mylexicon]

1. He rammed Nicky at Estoril in 2006.

2. He is so small he threatens to turn motorcycle racing into a sport of horse jockeys. You meet your favorite rider and you realize he is less substantial than your wife/girlfriend.

No thanks. I want a large talent pool for motorsports, not a talent pool restricted to genetic mutants that compose 1% of the total populace--I can watch regular sports to see the gifted mutants.

3. After Nicky won in 2006 the RC212V sports a Pedro sized cockpit.

4. After winning just 2 races on a bike Honda clearly attempted to build for Pedrosa, Pedrosa says Nicky is the reason the 212V sucks.

You can only dream of the talent Hayden was born with, Pedro. Unfortunately, Nicky is an overachieving McCoy. Fat chance anyone at Honda will go out on a limb to build special stuff for him.

5. A 20kg weight advantage is not "skill"

 

[an4rew]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mylexicon @ Feb 10 2008, 05:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>5. A 20kg weight advantage is not "skill"

your only point i don't really agree with... he lacks in so many other area's like 1on1 so its not such a big advantage.

 

[chopperman]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mylexicon @ Feb 10 2008, 05:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>5. A 20kg weight advantage is not "skill"
i was under the impression that his small light size was an advantage on acceleration and mabe top end due to power to weight ratio but a disadvantage in the corners because he cant push on the foot pegs as hard as the bigger lads.

 

[skidmark]

he's a great great rider, no doubt about it. he's just got this uncanny knack of pissing people off by so many of the things he says. it's like the sneaky kid nobody liked that you had in your class at school. filling the huge void left by biaggi, look at supers, max didn't exactly become the peoples favorite. pedrochio is the same. i used to be indifferent. i don't know why but now i can't help but come over with dislike at his very mention. sorry dani fans. i won't be cheering if he wins anything.



<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (roger-m @ Feb 10 2008, 06:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>i was under the impression that his small light size was an advantage on acceleration and mabe top end due to power to weight ratio but a disadvantage in the corners because he cant push on the foot pegs as hard as the bigger lads.Roger mate,

less combined bike/rider weight = less mass = faster acceleration.
also means less momentum/inertia = faster braking and direction change
and possibly most importantly less centrifugal/cornering force = faster corner speed, see 125cc corner speeds.

 

[Hayden Fan]

Dani is not a person I enjoy watching for one reason.

He is not as great as people say. He is Honda's ...... Their pet project. He has to suceed as Honda has million invested into his career that if he does fail they look like twits. Hence, Nicky struggling, as well as the rest of the Honda riders. Dani might be fast on the charts, but if you had the biggest motorbike company spending all their money on you, you have to be fast. You can so, "Well, bike racing is more rider than machine", but how come Nicky went from 1st to 8th in one season on the same team?

 

[JohnnyKnockdown]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (AlexdeAngelis-Fan @ Feb 10 2008, 10:14 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>i can´t say that i´m a huge Fan of him, but i don´t dislike him
so whats the deal with all the negativ stuff on this board about him?
can someone explain it to mee?


Turn the question around and ask yourself why you should like him.
Other than being a very talented rider he has done nothing to endear himself to anyone
or the sport. His popularity in Spain is based on the fact that he is one of few Spainards who could compete for a championship. In 20 years they have had Criville and Giberneau.
This year we have Lorenzo. I think that in 2 years or so his popularity will surpass
that of Pedrosa's. Think of 1 race or off track thing he has done that makes you say "Damn
he's not my favorite rider but for that incident alone I will always be a fan.

I'm a Hayden guy but I can also respect and admire guys that have the same amount of talent as Pedrosa. Rossi, Stoner, Melandri, Gibbers, Cap X ,CV, all great racers and class acts.

 

[Traverser]

I agree and take the same stance as Kevin Schwantz about not "following" Dani.

 

[basspete]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (skid @ Feb 10 2008, 06:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>he's a great great rider, no doubt about it. he's just got this uncanny knack of pissing people off by so many of the things he says. it's like the sneaky kid nobody liked that you had in your class at school. filling the huge void left by biaggi, look at supers, max didn't exactly become the peoples favorite. pedrochio is the same. i used to be indifferent. i don't know why but now i can't help but come over with dislike at his very mention. sorry dani fans. i won't be cheering if he wins anything.



Roger mate,

less combined bike/rider weight = less mass = faster acceleration.
also means less momentum/inertia = faster braking and direction change
and possibly most importantly less centrifugal/cornering force = faster corner speed, see 125cc corner speeds.

Pedrochio! ...... gold Skid!

Pete

 

[skidmark]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (basspete @ Feb 10 2008, 08:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Pedrochio! ...... gold Skid!

Pete

sorry pete but i can't claim the credit for that one...i can't remember who said it ??

 

[michaelm]

I don't particularly like him, but I don't hate him and certainly acknowledge his talent. I think he suffers like some others because he does not appear to have a very light touch, or perhaps much of a sense of humour at all. I think it is unfair that most of us judge him by what he says in english, which obviously is not his native tongue. Estoril is hard to ignore though, particularly if you are a hayden fan.

 

[mylexicon]

You know what's weird about Pedrosa, he almost won me over during the middle of this season.

Okay from the top:

Rossi leaves in 2003, Honda goes deer in the headlights. By the end of 2004 Honda's competitive advantage had vanished and been reversed. In 2005 the Honda misery continued and everyone in the Honda paddock was getting slapped around for HRC's incompetence. Nicky is riding around on a terrible development bike and Melandri is stuck on a satellite lemon. Gibby and Max are struggling mightily with the "A" package.

Finally at year end after lots of work Honda release the 2006 spec bike and it is amazing. Hayden and Melandri fall in love with it, and both of them harass and even outride Rossi at the end of 2005.

The scene is set for an amazing 2006 and who should land on the only factory supported "A" bike in the paddock? PEDROSA!

Melandri is stuck on a Fortuna team that he has been told will have factory support, by year end it is clear they don't. Hayden is told they need someone to test the new super secret good bits Honda is working on. The EVO engine is unreal, the rest of the bike is a lump of useless metal.

A combination of luck, sheer determination, and skill sees Hayden limp languidly across the finish line in first despite his god-awful bike and miserable riding by his teammate.

2007 starts and the RC212V is obviously Pedrosa's little pony. No one likes the bike, and it looks like it was built a group of high school students. By the middle of 2007 Dani finally wins and Honda's sentiments become obvious when they start making claims they should be winning more often.

At this point I feel sorry for the kid. Like Hayden before him, he lands on the best bike in the paddock his first year out, then he lands on a joke of a bike his sophmore season, yet Honda seems to be blaming the riders. Dani fought back against Honda and started throwing tantrums (I supported him then) but in true Dani fashion, by year end, he was blaming Nicky for everything that had gone wrong at Honda. He won the last race of the season and he was absolutely smitten with himself because he rained on Stoner's parade (ruining other people's fun is all he's ever been good at).

So now I hate him again with twice the fervor as before because everything had come right for him to redeem his character and he flushed it all down the toilet so he could keep acting like a spoiled brat.

 

[somedamnwriter]

yep...we don't hate him...we just make fun of him...if you'll look around, we also make fun of Rossi, just not as much as pedrochio

 

[jbuhl]

pri·ma don·na /ˌprimə ˈdɒnə, ˌprɪmə; It. ˈprimɑ ˈdɔnnɑ/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[pree-muh don-uh, prim-uh; It. pree-mah dawn-nah]

a temperamental person; a person who takes adulation and privileged treatment as a right and reacts with petulance to criticism or inconvenience.

 

[povol]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (bojuhl @ Feb 11 2008, 12:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>pri·ma don·na /ˌprimə ˈdɒnə, ˌprɪmə; It. ˈprimɑ ˈdɔnnɑ/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[pree-muh don-uh, prim-uh; It. pree-mah dawn-nah]

a temperamental person; a person who takes adulation and privileged treatment as a right and reacts with petulance to criticism or inconvenience.

Damn,was his picture beside the definition.That pretty much sums up Mr Pedrosa.

 

[chopperman]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (bojuhl @ Feb 11 2008, 05:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>pri·ma don·na /ˌprimə ˈdɒnə, ˌprɪmə; It. ˈprimɑ ˈdɔnnɑ/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[pree-muh don-uh, prim-uh; It. pree-mah dawn-nah]

a temperamental person; a person who takes adulation and privileged treatment as a right and reacts with petulance to criticism or inconvenience.

fit's like a glove.
didn't dani get into gp racing by winning a competition or something ?