Who will be Rookie of the Year?

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(muzzy57 @ Aug 23 2007, 02:01 PM) [snapback]86503[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
It's really cool to read what people have been saying about Lorenzo, DeAngelis, Dovy & so on, because I haven't been able to catch most of the 250cc races this year.

I have seen most of the SBK races though & must agree that JT has been mostly impressive, with only a couple of blips on the radar.

If... & I stress IF, the Tech 3 Yamaha is reasonably competitive next year that JT might be in with a chance for ROTY, otherwise I'd say Lorenzo myself... providing Jorge & Vale don't .....-slap each other out of contention (satire guys)

Ciao, M


Nah muzzy...Lorenzo will be a crasher!!...you mark my words!!!...I predict JT as the rookie of 2008...he’s a great ride, a great statistician, a great Brit and we’d love to have our fellow brothers on the podium in motoGP in 2008!!!...can you imagine the podium of motoGP being filled by aussies and the Brit’s!!!...that would be ‘just like the Cricket”!!!..lol...

I am worried about Hopper moving to the Kawasaki, who has ever done good on the green machine? That green beast seems to just be a crash machine, then again De Puniet is the crash master. I am a big fan of De Angelis, I would like to see him do well, but we shall see if his on the edge style works out in Moto GP. Lorenzo will most likely take rookie of the year, and I can't wait to see how his ego fits in with the big boys, I doubt his flag is going to be coming again for a while. Toseland is going to take some time to fit in, he is an excellent rider, but I think he will perform no better then Edwards, Bayliss, etc that came from SBK. That said I am glad to see him make the move as I would love to see Haga get a championship in SBK.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Racejumkie @ Aug 28 2007, 05:39 PM) [snapback]87217[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
On thing that I noticed is that JT has no problem mixing it up, bumping, aggressive overtaking, and laying out on the razor edge.
This is what makes me think JT has the ability to be a Moto GP rider, and a sucessfull one at that.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Racejumkie @ Aug 28 2007, 04:39 PM) [snapback]87217[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
Great post. Welcome to the forum, stay and play.

You know, I was thinking of this thread because I watched the WSBK Assen round race two last night and I got to thinking about the JT question. On thing that I noticed is that JT has no problem mixing it up, bumping, aggressive overtaking, and laying out on the razor edge. Does anybody remember race two? This is the race where Bayliss won by a margin of .009 to Toesland, but it could have been easily the other way around. Toseland and Bayliss hammered eachother the last three laps, they traded positions several times. What was most impressive was the degree of danger where these moves were done. I was very impressed by both and got to thinking: WSBK is much more prone for close racing than MotoGP is currently. I think this is and advantage for JT because he has learned that being aggressive is simply part of the skill set needed to compete. Sure, so is 250 close racing, but I think the level of competition and bigger bikes is much more impressive in WSBK. I’ve reconsidered, and I think I’m gonna put his prospects up behind Lorentho.


If you watch that last part of the Assen race between JT and Bayliss, it seems like JT thought he had more of a lead then he did, and started to pull the usual wheelie across the finish line, I think this little bit cost him the race.

guintoli, because he caught mine and a billions other people's attention this season.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Racejumkie @ Aug 28 2007, 05:39 PM) [snapback]87217[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
Great post. Welcome to the forum, stay and play.

1. On thing that I noticed is that JT has no problem mixing it up, bumping, aggressive overtaking, and laying out on the razor edge.

2. Does anybody remember race two? This is the race where Bayliss won by a margin of .009 to Toesland, but it could have been easily the other way around. Toseland and Bayliss hammered eachother the last three laps, they traded positions several times.

3. What was most impressive was the degree of danger where these moves were done. I was very impressed by both and got to thinking: WSBK is much more prone for close racing than MotoGP is currently. I think this is and advantage for JT because he has learned that being aggressive is simply part of the skill set needed to compete.

4. Sure, so is 250 close racing, but I think the level of competition and bigger bikes is much more impressive in WSBK. I’ve reconsidered, and I think I’m gonna put his prospects up behind Lorentho.


I'd love to agree with you, but it'll seem like a JT fanboi pushing his riders chances up.

I can't use the bold button so I'll number them ok, old bean.

1. He, Bayliss and Haga seem to be the only riders in the world who have mastered that art to perfection. Although GP riders appear too 'wimpy' to use it.

2. Yes, easily one of the best RACES of the year.

3. My usual thoughts are: GP racing = pinnacle of racing, not necessarly(sp?) the best RACING. SBK = best racing by far, but not as tech based as GP.

4. 250 guys simple get my respect as they ride GP machines, and are champs in their own right (I've learnt that the hard way), but they have the undeniable advantag of circuit and paddock knowledge.