Who thinks #58 should now be retired
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It will be nice but it's also nice to see others ride with it and remind us of him. I,m not sure what i should vote.
There has already been a request for it to be retired actually.
Don't know. It would be hard to see someone else racing it. Don't know who might have the hair for it...
Don't know. It would be hard to see someone else racing it. Don't know who might have the hair for it...
@ Pete.... I hope the number 46 will never need to be retired. I hope that when Vale retires the upcoming rookies will have enough good sense not to take it for themselves for a good many years. And when Vale catches up with Marco I hope his final service is a very small thing attended only by Uccio on his zimmerframe because he will be so freaking old the whole world will have forgotten all about him.
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I hate the idea of retired numbers, no matter the method of the riders' passing, or the status of the rider retiring. Even number 46, which very few people have the chutzpah to carry in any of the classes around the world, be it 125, Moto2, WSBK or WSS, should not be retired. I fail to understand why Schwantz - who I will readily admit is a massive living legend - had his number retired. These people mark the sport, but they are not bigger than the sport. You'd have to be an ....... of almost unimaginable proportions to want to use #46 once Rossi retires, or especially #58 next year, or #74 for the next 10 years, but there comes a time that these numbers can be used with good taste and decency. Right now, anyone carrying the #34 is obviously honoring Schwantz, whereas if you'd run it in '95, you'd have been cashing in. There's an indefinable moment when it becomes possible again.
Anyway, they didn't retire #1 when Ago and Doohan retired, did they?
Let the flaming begin.
Anyway, they didn't retire #1 when Ago and Doohan retired, did they?
Let the flaming begin.
You cant retire #1 or any number that denotes a championship place. i doubt we would ever have 58 bike on the grid or even 46 for that matter. There was a racer using 46, think it was bss ?
I was being facetious, to try to make my point. Josh Herrin used 46 in the AMA, I believe, even used a similar style to Rossi's number.
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Woody Creek
He even had his name on his leathers done in a matter to look exactly like Rossi's The Doctor on his bum. Doesn't Tommy Bridewell run the 46 in a similar font to Rossi's, as well?
While I voted "yes," I suspect it won't matter. I doubt than anyone in the future would select that number.
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Your Mom's House
I vote yes. Its a sign of respect. Most certainly for those who died from track injuries. They don't retire numbers because they think somebody is going to use it again. What if Simoncelli had a son and competed in MotoGP and requested the 58? He would & should probably be allowed in such a case. Its not a complicated issue, they just retire numbers for respect. You die on the track, that number should be retired. Regarding living legends, I wouldn't mind if the number was retired too, but if they didn't it wouldn't bother me. Though I will say, it would bother me if they didn't retire a number of a killed rider.
Just a curious question, what do they do for the Isle of Man? Since over 200 riders have died. I don't see it a problem in closed circuit racing like MotoGP, but what about actual roadracing where dying is a yearly occurrence?
(Herrin uses the 46 clearly as an honor to Rossi, and he has said as much. Partly because he is a hero of his and partly because he wants to be like Rossi. Not a bad person to want to emulate).
Just a curious question, what do they do for the Isle of Man? Since over 200 riders have died. I don't see it a problem in closed circuit racing like MotoGP, but what about actual roadracing where dying is a yearly occurrence?
(Herrin uses the 46 clearly as an honor to Rossi, and he has said as much. Partly because he is a hero of his and partly because he wants to be like Rossi. Not a bad person to want to emulate).
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I'm on both sides of the fence on this one. I like the idea of respect to the rider - but for myself, back when I club raced, when I ran in AMA-CCS endurance series I ran 52 in honor of Bruce Hammer even after he crashed and got paralyzed because Bruce and John (Ulrich) were the baddest, ...-kicking-ist privateer racers and as an endurance guy I wanted to both emulate and pay respect as well.
I voted yes it should be retired from motoGP.
If a rider has passed away whilst riding yes, if they have meerly gotten old and gone to the knackers yard thats a nah from me! But I think if this be the case the out going rider can say yay or nay to the person who wants to take over the number.
If a rider has passed away whilst riding yes, if they have meerly gotten old and gone to the knackers yard thats a nah from me! But I think if this be the case the out going rider can say yay or nay to the person who wants to take over the number.
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unda cheese
Looking at Nascar, that series has never retired a number, not even Earnhardts. They have had quite a few fatalities besides him.
I agree with Krop although if this happened to Rossi I would feel otherwise because of his legendary status.. Simoncellis short career hardly had an impact on the sport.
I agree with Krop although if this happened to Rossi I would feel otherwise because of his legendary status.. Simoncellis short career hardly had an impact on the sport.
Im not a fan of retiring numbers but in some cases i think they should be. 58 was synonymous with Marco and this crash has effected other riders because they were involved. It has also effected many fans because not only was a great character taken from us we had the misfortune to witness it.
I think the number should be retired out of respect but also so we can move on without the constant reminder of that dreadful day.
I think the number should be retired out of respect but also so we can move on without the constant reminder of that dreadful day.
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Alpha Setti 5
There are some good points being made here fore and against, ask yourself this would you want to use that number?
Whilst I realise there must be a lot of numbers out there still used by racers, which have had a death or very serious injury attached to them, I think they are only revelavent in the particular class in which the incident happened.
After some consideration I am going to vote 'yes' I am in favour of it being retired, for the Moto GP class.
Whilst I realise there must be a lot of numbers out there still used by racers, which have had a death or very serious injury attached to them, I think they are only revelavent in the particular class in which the incident happened.
After some consideration I am going to vote 'yes' I am in favour of it being retired, for the Moto GP class.
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unda cheese
What about those young kids that showed up to his funeral in leathers and helmets. Im sure he was an idol to them. Maybe they would like to take his number in tribute to him. Fast foward ten years and one of those kids is in the GP class and is still running the 58. That would be a pretty compelling tribute
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