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I personally think future GP bikes are going to be slower and we'll be the ones going "back in the 2010's they raced the fastest most technologically advanced bikes in the world"

I feel lucky enough to have seen fantastic riders such as Rossi, Stoner, Lorenzo, Marquez and Pedrosa battling against each other riding these engineering masterpieces as fast as they will go and as much as Mick Doohan remains my favourite rider these last 10 years have been far more enjoyable than his dominant years where you could only win if you had NSR500 running on Michelins.
 
Dr No said:
Rather large difference between a 1989 NSR500 and a 2000 model...
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Still the only rider in activity who rode a 500cc 2 stroker is Rossi. Feel free to dismiss the 1999-2001 500's as easy bikes, if that suits your anti-Rossi bias... They weren't.
 
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It wasn't an anti-Rossi statement, J.
Just a fact.
That's your bias exposed.
I happen to agree with whoever quoted Schwantz re: ease of riding v ease of racing.
 
Dr No said:
It wasn't an anti-Rossi statement, J.
Just a fact.
That's your bias exposed.
I happen to agree with whoever quoted Schwantz re: ease of riding v ease of racing.
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Exposed? Rossi has always been in my list of favorite riders.
But if I say "Rossi is the only rider in activity who rode the 500's" -- statement of fact, with a reference to Marquez btw, within a precise context -- and you answer out of context "But one cannot compare the 500's of 1989 to those of 2001" (the year Rossi won the 500 title), well, that's what I call bias coming out unsolicited.

Anyway, if you cared to discuss merit, I would insist that racing a 500 in the year 2000 required pretty much the same set of skills that was required racing the things in 1984 or later. Maybe there were better chassis and brakes and more sensors, and finely tuned exhaust valves (no real TC yet) but they were also a good deal more powerful and fast, so the equation stayed very similar for the rider.

And, I think Marquez has the kind of talent that would have shone also with the 500s. Just like Stoner. The current top rider that I think would have risked a lot on the 500s is Lorenzo imo, cause of his style. He would have been fast from the start, but would have highsided a lot: actually he did even in 2008 with the 800s, go figure with the old "unrideables".
 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honda_NSR500

Man, look at that motor!

800px-Honda_NSR500_engine_front_Honda_Collection_Hall.jpg
 
J4rn0 said:
Still the only rider in activity who rode a 500cc 2 stroker is Rossi. Feel free to dismiss the 1999-2001 500's as easy bikes, if that suits your anti-Rossi bias... They weren't.
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J4, not to be a pedantic ...... here but I seem to recall that a few of the riders of latter years have ridden but not raced the 500cc machines (didn't some to parade laps etc on them)?

Plus I would say that Biaggi is also a good measure, still doing the rounds and has ridden both (although I fully realise that your point was of the current MGP riders) and someone I feel was a better 2 stroke than 4 stroke rider

IMO only, the top riders of today would be capable of riding 500cc of yesteryear, just as the yesteryear riders would be up there today.
 
Gaz said:
Have been fortunate enough to be able to scrutineer a privately owned NSR500V a few times in Australia and whilst it is only a twin, the thing is pure bike .... up close.
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The Allen bike?
Saw that completely play with Superbikes at a Formula Extreme (?) race
 
J4rn0 said:
Exposed? Rossi has always been in my list of favorite riders.
But if I say "Rossi is the only rider in activity who rode the 500's" -- statement of fact, with a reference to Marquez btw, within a precise context -- and you answer out of context "But one cannot compare the 500's of 1989 to those of 2001" (the year Rossi won the 500 title), well, that's what I call bias coming out unsolicited.

Anyway, if you cared to discuss merit, I would insist that racing a 500 in the year 2000 required pretty much the same set of skills that was required racing the things in 1984 or later. Maybe there were better chassis and brakes and more sensors, and finely tuned exhaust valves (no real TC yet) but they were also a good deal more powerful and fast, so the equation stayed very similar for the rider.

And, I think Marquez has the kind of talent that would have shone also with the 500s. Just like Stoner. The current top rider that I think would have risked a lot on the 500s is Lorenzo imo, cause of his style. He would have been fast from the start, but would have highsided a lot: actually he did even in 2008 with the 800s, go figure with the old "unrideables".
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Haha. Way to put words in my mouth.
The bias is that you perceive my comment as anti-Rossi.
Get a grip, if you read my post with your yellow tinted glasses off, you'll find we are largely in agreement.
 
Dr No said:
The Allen bike?
Saw that completely play with Superbikes at a Formula Extreme (?) race
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Yep, that one.

Have seen it put a lot of people to shame a few times and whilst John is no slouch I would so have enjoyed watching a few other riders have a go on it (was lucky enough to see Paul Lewis on an RG500 stroker around Eastern Creek a few times)
 
"Hard left" (then right, up, and doen) seems to be inline with the fingering theme.
 

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