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Who Gets The Repsol Ride?

Who gets Lorenzo's ride?

  • Zarco

    Votes: 21 77.8%
  • Crutchlow

    Votes: 1 3.7%
  • Alex Marquez

    Votes: 5 18.5%
  • other

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    27
Necessity is the mother of invention and in that sense, I'm not seeing Honda easily getting out of the current situation of their bike being difficult to ride. Afterall, MM is getting it to go quickly.

Exactly. The bike is more than fine for MM. Not an unprecedented situation at HRC either, cf Doohan and the screamer engine. The engineers if not Honda more generally are probably happy as well, as someone has said recently they can just build the bike to be as fast as possible and MM is able to ride it, akin imo to Stoner and the 2007 Ducati. I suspect his early HRC bikes in 2013 and 2014 were more a product of Pedrosa +/- Stoner anyway.

It quite likely won’t be fine for AM. This is where you wonder whether they have really thought it through, although I imagine MM’s and AM’s mind set is not the same as majority opinion on here ie that AM is fairly mediocre.
 
So devils advocate. What if Alex does get on with the RCV? Alex will get three extra days of testing, alongside Brad Binder and Iker Lecuon. So from Tuesday on we should see how he measure up against those two. He will be riding the 2019 spec that is going to Taka.






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Could he have already ridden it?. I don’t know the rules for someone not currently a MotoGP rider. I guess he was under contract to his moto 2 team though.

Honda would appear to be keeping their options open, they have reportedly only signed him for 1 year; it is all official on motogp.com now.
 
Could he have already ridden it?. I don’t know the rules for someone not currently a MotoGP rider. I guess he was under contract to his moto 2 team though.

Honda would appear to be keeping their options open, they have reportedly only signed him for 1 year; it is all official on motogp.com now.

According to motomatters > most Moto2 contracts have a specific clause in them allowing the contract to be broken if the rider is offered a place in MotoGP
The one year contract is most likely to align with everybody else.
 
Could he have already ridden it?. I don’t know the rules for someone not currently a MotoGP rider. I guess he was under contract to his moto 2 team though.

Honda would appear to be keeping their options open, they have reportedly only signed him for 1 year; it is all official on motogp.com now.

From Kropo:

"Marc Marquez has made no secret over the years of his desire to share a team with his brother Alex, Alex being given a test ride on the Repsol Honda as a reward for winning the Moto3 title in 2014. Alex also filled in for the injured Tom Luthi at the test in Jerez in November 2017. There was a belief that Marc would try to bring Alex into the team in 2021, once Jorge Lorenzo's contract ended. But when news of Jorge Lorenzo's retirement broke, an opportunity opened up earlier."

Honda never dreamed Lorenzo would bail, leaving them have to fulfill Marc's nepotistic wet dream. I suspect with no opening available in 2020 at HRC, Honda were gambling that Alex would sign on at another team, and then if Lorenzo didn't renew his option for 2020, at least Alex would have had one premier class year under his belt.
 
Didn't Zarco turn down partnering MM to go to KTM? Or am I mistaken?

No doubt in hindsight Repsol would have been the best option. Zarco was playing long ball and it didn’t work out for him. I think he watched all the crap between Rossi and Lorenzo and wanted to be in a team as the #1.

Trouble is, there are only 2 teams right now that can win the title and they are hard to get into, never mind as #1. Zarco didn’t pick one of those, when he could have should have.

Too much talent and not enough bikes. Shame to see Zarco go to Moto 2 if that is the case.
 
Honda never dreamed Lorenzo would bail, leaving them have to fulfill Marc's nepotistic wet dream. I suspect with no opening available in 2020 at HRC, Honda were gambling that Alex would sign on at another team, and then if Lorenzo didn't renew his option for 2020, at least Alex would have had one premier class year under his belt.[/QUOTE]

If it’s true that Honda caved in to MM then it automatically makes me lose respect for Honda. Unless they really think that AM is the best man for the job.

Faced with the unexpected loss of Lorenzo, how much more daring and cool to try and get Fabio Quartararo. Of course, I have no ideacabout the contracts, etc.

I just want to see some interesting racing I guess.
 
I really hope Zarco takes up the offer from Avintia.

Staying in the GP paddock should be his highest priority.

Pull off a decent season - few top 6-10's, with another season same as this year, there is the likelihood of Petrucci out in 2021, Miller moving up to Factory Squad and Zarco could find himself on a Pramac current year bike.
 
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That was pretty much Puig’s justification, although he was known as Darth Puig on here in former incarnations.

He said AM was both young which he considers good in the circumstance and well qualified for a MotoGP ride as the moto 2 champion anyway, and no complexities with shuffling of LCR contracts etc were involved. I am not sure Cal would really want the factory ride at this stage anyway, and he has been having his own share of injury problems as well.
 
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The more I think about it, the more the signing makes sense. Not because Alex is amazing but because there is 0 downside other than a bunch of morons moaning on social media.

HRC gains nothing by putting Cal in the Repsol team but LCR could lose a lot.
Zarco is sounding more and more like a difficult personality.

Even going through the options for 2021 unless he embarrasses himself Alex could be I’m a great position to retain his ride. Unless they get Quartararo, Vinales (who is inconsistent as ....) or maybe Rins, who else is there?

Maybe Oliveira who I think could have something special? Maybe Binder.

Let’s face it, outside of Fabio there looks to be NOBODY with a snowball chance in hell or challenging Marc over a season. The Aliens are gone and nobody outside of Quartararo has shown alien type promise so far.
 
The more I think about it, the more the signing makes sense. Not because Alex is amazing but because there is 0 downside other than a bunch of morons moaning on social media.

HRC gains nothing by putting Cal in the Repsol team but LCR could lose a lot.
Zarco is sounding more and more like a difficult personality.

Even going through the options for 2021 unless he embarrasses himself Alex could be I’m a great position to retain his ride. Unless they get Quartararo, Vinales (who is inconsistent as ....) or maybe Rins, who else is there?

Maybe Oliveira who I think could have something special? Maybe Binder.

Let’s face it, outside of Fabio there looks to be NOBODY with a snowball chance in hell or challenging Marc over a season. The Aliens are gone and nobody outside of Quartararo has shown alien type promise so far.


I doubt Alex would loose his ride even if he has a really bad season.
I has had to very bad seasons in moto2 and i reckon his surname was the reason why he retained his seat.
I don't think MM will want anyone else as teammate in 2021 than his brother.

Would Alex keep is ride if he performes like he did first years on moto2?!
That to me would be the hardest think for Honda to manage he it happens.

Today Alex was the easy option, Zarco is not an easy character and that costed him the seat i believe.
Any other current motogp rider is by far expensive for Honda.


2021 should be one great silly season for contracts.
Honda, single goal to retain MM.

Yamaha, they must be dying for Rossi to retire, he no longer gives them guarantee's for several points/podiums.
Vinales has had years and i think he'll go elsewhere. Over the years the satellite riders have had better displays then him with Zarco and now Fabio.
Franco either steps up the game or needs other place too.

Ducati.
Dovi is good but won't ever be able to beat MM and he's turning 34 next season. Petrucci and Miller don't also seem to be the answer.
A lot favour Miller but the fact remains he ended up being Petrucci on the overall standings.
I think Ducati needs to bet on a new and fresh lineup for the factory team.
Bagnaia has struggled a lot this year and was quite disappointing to me, but maybe on the second try he will prove his quality.

Suzuki, if Rins can cut down his mistakes and fix qualifying he can rise as a proper contender to the title and rival MM.
Mir showed a couple races good performances, but honesty was expecting more give the quality of his bike.

Aprilia
Just keep going with the riders they have and improve their bike.

KTM
Paul is taking them nowhere it seems, let's hope Dani can turn them around to the right direction.
Oliveira has impressed on his rookie season given the bike he has, when Zarco parted ways he should have been vocal about getting his seat. That gave Binder the chance to pass directly to the factory team.
Binder and Lecuona let's see what they can do.
 
I doubt Alex would loose his ride even if he has a really bad season.
I has had to very bad seasons in moto2 and i reckon his surname was the reason why he retained his seat.
I don't think MM will want anyone else as teammate in 2021 than his brother.

Would Alex keep is ride if he performes like he did first years on moto2?!
That to me would be the hardest think for Honda to manage he it happens.

Today Alex was the easy option, Zarco is not an easy character and that costed him the seat i believe.
Any other current motogp rider is by far expensive for Honda.


2021 should be one great silly season for contracts.
Honda, single goal to retain MM.

Yamaha, they must be dying for Rossi to retire, he no longer gives them guarantee's for several points/podiums.
Vinales has had years and i think he'll go elsewhere. Over the years the satellite riders have had better displays then him with Zarco and now Fabio.
Franco either steps up the game or needs other place too.

Ducati.
Dovi is good but won't ever be able to beat MM and he's turning 34 next season. Petrucci and Miller don't also seem to be the answer.
A lot favour Miller but the fact remains he ended up being Petrucci on the overall standings.
I think Ducati needs to bet on a new and fresh lineup for the factory team.
Bagnaia has struggled a lot this year and was quite disappointing to me, but maybe on the second try he will prove his quality.

Suzuki, if Rins can cut down his mistakes and fix qualifying he can rise as a proper contender to the title and rival MM.
Mir showed a couple races good performances, but honesty was expecting more give the quality of his bike.

Aprilia
Just keep going with the riders they have and improve their bike.

KTM
Paul is taking them nowhere it seems, let's hope Dani can turn them around to the right direction.
Oliveira has impressed on his rookie season given the bike he has, when Zarco parted ways he should have been vocal about getting his seat. That gave Binder the chance to pass directly to the factory team.
Binder and Lecuona let's see what they can do.
I have no illusions about Miller vs MM, but Miller vs Petrucci is a different matter. Petrucci has been in the factory team seat all year, and I have strong doubts as to how "full factory" the support for Miller's Pramac bike was when the return of Jorge to Ducati thing was on. The converse is true for Petrucci now, I am not sure how full his support is even riding for the factory team now he appears to be out of favour with Ducati; the currents at Ducati are notoriously treacherous. Jack has even outperformed Dovi in several late season races though which is hard to gainsay imo.
 
The more I think about it, the more the signing makes sense. Not because Alex is amazing but because there is 0 downside other than a bunch of morons moaning on social media.

HRC gains nothing by putting Cal in the Repsol team but LCR could lose a lot.
Zarco is sounding more and more like a difficult personality.

Even going through the options for 2021 unless he embarrasses himself Alex could be I’m a great position to retain his ride. Unless they get Quartararo, Vinales (who is inconsistent as ....) or maybe Rins, who else is there?

Maybe Oliveira who I think could have something special? Maybe Binder.

Let’s face it, outside of Fabio there looks to be NOBODY with a snowball chance in hell or challenging Marc over a season. The Aliens are gone and nobody outside of Quartararo has shown alien type promise so far.

Personally I think HRC's primary motivation for signing Alex on a 1 year contract was to give themselves the best possible chance of retaining Marc in 2021 when his contract is up.

Alex will always be in the shadow of his brother and compared to him. With Alex on the factory Repsol bike in his rookie season just like his brother Marc was, the comparisons between the two will only be further highlighted and talked about. If Alex has a anything other than a stellar rookie season the media will criticize and compare him to no end. That said, if Marc did think to leave HRC for 2021 what would Alex's chances of being re-signed be, if coming of an average/poor rookie season?
 
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Don’t want to get all soap opera about it but I won’t be surprised if Alex quickly gets tired of the comparisons. Competition with your teammates rarely brings you closer together.
 
Don’t want to get all soap opera about it but I won’t be surprised if Alex quickly gets tired of the comparisons. Competition with your teammates rarely brings you closer together.

Agree^, I think it will be pretty difficult for Alex continually being compared and measured against his brother. Even if he does a good job, you can bet the media will focus on his shortcomings compared to his brother rather than his results compared to the others given his rookie circumstances.

I'm sure a part of him already feels that he only has the Repsol ride because of his surname, having the media harp on about it every time he gets a sub par result throughout the season wont make it any easier for him.
 
Alex is the Moto2 champions and deserves a call up. I think it would be fair to measure him against the other rookies next year, comparing him to Marc will not be fair right away.
 
Moto2 champ or not, common sense tells he made a wrong choice joining brother's team and choosing a bike which is known tricky to ride at least. These are two bad mistakes, the way I see it. Time will tell ...
 
I'm sure Alex will do well, he won't be a MM 2.0 but will do well. I think Honda made the best choice possible.
 

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