<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BigAl @ Feb 1 2009, 08:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>the way i look at it is this.
i you were to try and convince someone to watch a bike race because it was exciting and spectacular etc. etc. which series would you suggest?
WSB/WSS wins this hands down, no contest..
Good point there, superbike is the series appealing to those who know and understand less about the sport, the casual observer rather than the hardcore. It has bigger grids and closer racing. For me however it falls short in every other area. The bikes are less interesting and less exciting to watch, the riders are not as good and there are less characters, but most importantly there is so little spectacle i don't care too much who wins
i you were to try and convince someone to watch a bike race because it was exciting and spectacular etc. etc. which series would you suggest?
WSB/WSS wins this hands down, no contest..
Good point there, superbike is the series appealing to those who know and understand less about the sport, the casual observer rather than the hardcore. It has bigger grids and closer racing. For me however it falls short in every other area. The bikes are less interesting and less exciting to watch, the riders are not as good and there are less characters, but most importantly there is so little spectacle i don't care too much who wins
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Tom @ Feb 2 2009, 06:53 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Good point there, superbike is the series appealing to those who know and understand less about the sport, the casual observer rather than the hardcore. It has bigger grids and closer racing. For me however it falls short in every other area. The bikes are less interesting and less exciting to watch, the riders are not as good and there are less characters, but most importantly there is so little spectacle i don't care too much who wins
You are a ....... ........ Understand less? Obviously the one with the least understanding is you...
Ill give you the bikes are more "interesting" in GP ...but if you want to see interesting bikes go to a motorsports museum..... SBK less exciting to watch?
...son if this were the 500s or the 990s i'd totally agree with you...but the 800 are about as fun to watch as a pimple growth... get a clue.
You are a ....... ........ Understand less? Obviously the one with the least understanding is you...
Ill give you the bikes are more "interesting" in GP ...but if you want to see interesting bikes go to a motorsports museum..... SBK less exciting to watch?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (xx CURVE xx @ Feb 2 2009, 01:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>You are a ....... ........ Understand less? Obviously the one with the least understanding is you...
Ill give you the bikes are more "interesting" in GP ...but if you want to see interesting bikes go to a motorsports museum..... SBK less exciting to watch?
...son if this were the 500s or the 990s i'd totally agree with you...but the 800 are about as fun to watch as a pimple growth... get a clue.
you took the words right outta my keyboard!
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Ill give you the bikes are more "interesting" in GP ...but if you want to see interesting bikes go to a motorsports museum..... SBK less exciting to watch?
you took the words right outta my keyboard!
^+1
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Tom @ Feb 2 2009, 10:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Good point there, superbike is the series appealing to those who know and understand less about the sport, the casual observer rather than the hardcore.
Yeah right, you gimp.
Yeah right, you gimp.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Son of Doohan @ Feb 2 2009, 02:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Yeah right, you gimp.
Besides Tom got one thing right, The spectacle make all the difference and anyone can relate to that. If not for anything else the sound of the MotoGP bikes make them a world appart form anything else.
Besides Tom got one thing right, The spectacle make all the difference and anyone can relate to that. If not for anything else the sound of the MotoGP bikes make them a world appart form anything else.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Babelfish @ Feb 2 2009, 07:53 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>
Besides Tom got one thing right, The spectacle make all the difference and anyone can relate to that. If not for anything else the sound of the MotoGP bikes make them a world appart form anything else.
The 800s sound like .......cept the Duc...The 990s were SO much better...i remember waking up at La Guna in 05 to the sound of the RC211V... just "blipping" the throttle gave me a boner.
Besides Tom got one thing right, The spectacle make all the difference and anyone can relate to that. If not for anything else the sound of the MotoGP bikes make them a world appart form anything else.
The 800s sound like .......cept the Duc...The 990s were SO much better...i remember waking up at La Guna in 05 to the sound of the RC211V... just "blipping" the throttle gave me a boner.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (xx CURVE xx @ Feb 2 2009, 02:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>You are a ....... ........ Understand less? Obviously the one with the least understanding is you...
Ill give you the bikes are more "interesting" in GP ...but if you want to see interesting bikes go to a motorsports museum..... SBK less exciting to watch?
...son if this were the 500s or the 990s i'd totally agree with you...but the 800 are about as fun to watch as a pimple growth... get a clue.
The only problem is that notwithstanding all this you fairly obviously going by your posts care much more about motogp than wsbk. No question the races have been closer in wsbk the last 2 years, but who cares who wins the minor leagues? You guys watch too much nascar, which undoubtedly involves considerable skill, but where close finishes seem to be contrived if necessary.
Ill give you the bikes are more "interesting" in GP ...but if you want to see interesting bikes go to a motorsports museum..... SBK less exciting to watch?
The only problem is that notwithstanding all this you fairly obviously going by your posts care much more about motogp than wsbk. No question the races have been closer in wsbk the last 2 years, but who cares who wins the minor leagues? You guys watch too much nascar, which undoubtedly involves considerable skill, but where close finishes seem to be contrived if necessary.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (xx CURVE xx @ Feb 2 2009, 09:04 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>The 800s sound like .......cept the Duc...The 990s were SO much better...i remember waking up at La Guna in 05 to the sound of the RC211V... just "blipping" the throttle gave me a boner.
the 800s sound just fine. maybe not as inspirering as the 990s were but pretty damn sweet. have you actually been to a race with the 800s yet al?
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (frosty58 @ Feb 2 2009, 08:56 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>
the 800s sound just fine. maybe not as inspirering as the 990s were but pretty damn sweet. have you actually been to a race with the 800s yet al?
not yet no...but i also never heard the last of the 500...i don't need to be there in person to know what sounds better
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (michaelm @ Feb 2 2009, 08:04 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>The only problem is that notwithstanding all this you fairly obviously going by your posts care much more about motogp than wsbk. No question the races have been closer in wsbk the last 2 years, but who cares who wins the minor leagues? You guys watch too much nascar, which undoubtedly involves considerable skill, but where close finishes seem to be contrived if necessary.
minor leagues?? Nascar??
You and TOM should get together and make ugly ........ babies
not yet no...but i also never heard the last of the 500...i don't need to be there in person to know what sounds better
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (michaelm @ Feb 2 2009, 08:04 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>The only problem is that notwithstanding all this you fairly obviously going by your posts care much more about motogp than wsbk. No question the races have been closer in wsbk the last 2 years, but who cares who wins the minor leagues? You guys watch too much nascar, which undoubtedly involves considerable skill, but where close finishes seem to be contrived if necessary.
minor leagues?? Nascar??
You and TOM should get together and make ugly ........ babies
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (xx CURVE xx @ Feb 2 2009, 10:07 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>not yet no...but i also never heard the last of the 500...i don't need to be there in person to know what sounds better
ya gotta hear em live brother!
ya gotta hear em live brother!
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (frosty58 @ Feb 2 2009, 09:09 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>ya gotta hear em live brother!
yeah i know...But i had friends go to the Guna GP last couple years...known him forever and he said the same thing...990s sounded 10 times better...i believe him...hell you can tell just by vids.
yeah i know...But i had friends go to the Guna GP last couple years...known him forever and he said the same thing...990s sounded 10 times better...i believe him...hell you can tell just by vids.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (frosty58 @ Feb 2 2009, 09:19 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>the 990s were somethin...
The 990s were brutal
My camp spot was at turn ten...a good 300 yards away from the pits...8am i awoke to a V5 being blipped over and over...sounded like they had parked the ....... thing outside my tent
The 990s were brutal
My camp spot was at turn ten...a good 300 yards away from the pits...8am i awoke to a V5 being blipped over and over...sounded like they had parked the ....... thing outside my tent
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (frosty58 @ Feb 2 2009, 03:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>the 990s were somethin...
The sound the cube made was really something special
sounded like a thunder storm. i loved that bike !
The sound the cube made was really something special
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (roger-m @ Feb 2 2009, 10:22 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>The sound the cube made was really something special
sounded like a thunder storm. i loved that bike !
damn i remember the sound that thing made!!! AWESOM!!!
damn i remember the sound that thing made!!! AWESOM!!!
I was in Valencia when Ilmor tried out the 800 ready 4 the 08 season and the sound and performance differnce was unbeliavable.. Bring back the 990's!!
I keep hearing people talk about the MotoGP "spectacle", what exactly is said spectacle and why does it make MotoGP better? Is the spectacle the crowd of fans at the races, more tents and booths, better beer, more hotdog vendors, more umbrella girls? Or are you talking about the paddock spectacle or the on track racing spectacle?
What saves MotoGP for me is the 125 and 250 racing, which is almost always outstanding. However the MotoGP class, as I said this before in another post, the last few years has been racing blue balls, all the build up and a serious let down come race day. All of this business of which is "better" depends on how you are defining the word, but everyone has their reasons for preferring one or the other. Myself I watch because of the racing, the on track action, the passing. WSBK on top of having great start to finish racing most of the time, has two races per weekend, hard to beat for the race fan. I want more then anything for MotoGP to prove me wrong, to show up WSBK and have at least as good of racing as 2006 with the 990's. I will always follow MotoGP, it is the pinnacle of moto racing, but the way things have been lately, I know come Sunday not to expect an exciting race.
What saves MotoGP for me is the 125 and 250 racing, which is almost always outstanding. However the MotoGP class, as I said this before in another post, the last few years has been racing blue balls, all the build up and a serious let down come race day. All of this business of which is "better" depends on how you are defining the word, but everyone has their reasons for preferring one or the other. Myself I watch because of the racing, the on track action, the passing. WSBK on top of having great start to finish racing most of the time, has two races per weekend, hard to beat for the race fan. I want more then anything for MotoGP to prove me wrong, to show up WSBK and have at least as good of racing as 2006 with the 990's. I will always follow MotoGP, it is the pinnacle of moto racing, but the way things have been lately, I know come Sunday not to expect an exciting race.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (xx CURVE xx @ Feb 2 2009, 04:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>The 990s were brutal
My camp spot was at turn ten...a good 300 yards away from the pits...8am i awoke to a V5 being blipped over and over...sounded like they had parked the ....... thing outside my tent
I used to go up to the Motocross nationals every year at Washougal Washington, your story reminds me of the cold misty mornings, waking up in my tent to the sound of 250's being blipped in the morning.
My camp spot was at turn ten...a good 300 yards away from the pits...8am i awoke to a V5 being blipped over and over...sounded like they had parked the ....... thing outside my tent
I used to go up to the Motocross nationals every year at Washougal Washington, your story reminds me of the cold misty mornings, waking up in my tent to the sound of 250's being blipped in the morning.
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