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When a fisherman tried to box with God but his arms came up too short...

Rossi doesn't do mind games he appeals to the lowest common denominator for the vocal .....
 
I will answer - nothing.

But he did help many younger riders while racing (US riders come to mind) and fought for the 125cc guys to have paddock rights that they otherwise did not have.

Now as for Aussies that have helped their countrymen I suggest you look on the back of a postage stamp for the answer because the answer is very small.

Gardner - helping family

Doohan - nobody

Magoo - nobody

McCoy - runs a ride school but not tailored at international level

Bayliss - probably the most helpful but again, more localised but has used influence to get a few guys WSBK rides.

Vermuelen - not sure to be honest

Many of these guys do poke their heads in at junior meets from time to time but at the same time, one thing that the vast majority of Aussie sportsmen and sportswomen do is that they do not seek publicity for their assistance so many may well be helping far greater but we just will not know of it

Facts are that in this country we do not have a conveyor belt of racers that we had in the past so the chances to help are greatly reduced plus none of these guys made the money of a Rossi nor have the business connections, thus opportunity to help is greatly restricted anyway.

The Aussies that are 'putting back' if that is the right term are the likes of the Cudlins who run a junior race program (MotoStars) where the likes of Bayliss, Vermuelen, McCoy etc will show their faces from time to time to help the kids (source - know someone very closely involved).



Besides, why should they help (Serious question)?

Once a person retires from work, do they use their money, their skills to help people who replaced them or are they off enjoying retirement?

Bayliss is very actively involved.
 
This is an interesting debate, so we are judging the riders based on some positive or negative impact they have made upon the sport? Is that the hypothesis? Ok, so something like say a ledger, on one side, good stuff, on the other negative stuff. Can we include stuff done during the rider’s racing career that has damaged the sport? Lets start by listing the riders that have damaged the sport based on their influence then, ok, what name should we come up with first? Wait wait, I got it, 1. Bradley Smith... No? Not the first name you thought of?
 
Rossi Single handedly took Morbidelli, a kid with a broken family and no hope of even competing even on national level and developed his career to the point where he got a MotoGP ride. Ditto Bagnaia. And many more to come.

His .... attitude towards other riders diminish such point. His evil doings is greater than the very little good he may have done. He could start with you & the rest of the boppers by teaching to respect riders who are beating him.


What has Stoner done since retiring? Teach upcoming OZ racers fly fishing?

He is not required to. He was never one for PR work! He is not a glory hog like 46. Are any of the previous Australian champions running a race academy?


Rossi single handedly has done and is doing more for the sport than many past and present racers have ever done. I am sorry if this uncomfortable truth offends some.

Really? You mean having his fans of yellow mustard clowns "yourself included" booing riders who defeats him. Riders who are head & shoulders above him.... He has done more to lower human value attending the sport


Also, Rossi didn't really receive much help from Graziano other than in the very early years of his career. His career in the world scene was pretty much driven all by himself and not his dad. That is a sharp contrast to Marquez, who is living the Tennis parent fantasies of dadmom Julia and uncle Emilio (That's not a knock on MM's talent).


So Marc should feel bad for being brought up in a proper family structure? If flopsy 46 had proper up bringing he would be a better person today.
 
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The whole Stoner family lived in Puig's father's yard for 18 months.

Hmm... I read Stoner's bio a few years ago so I could have easily forgot that. Still and all, if that's the kind of thing Stoner would see as a personal debt to Puig. For the most part Stoner's success is due to his parent's willingness to mortgage their home, living very humbly, and dedicating themselves to his success. His father drove him literally hundreds of thousands of miles going from event to event and wrenched his beat up bikes. The family sacrificed everything for him. As I recall there were a number of people who could have helped him, who in fact went out of their way to block his path. I can see how he would have a narrow view of who it was he was indebted to. He was largely a very solitary kid who practiced obsessively and didn't have a lot of friends. He was pretty bitter at the end after being screwed around by various forces in the racing world and sick of so much of the phoniness and the politics. Not hard to understand that he wouldn't want to invest his retirement time and resources with a field that had disappointed him in so many ways. In the event - I don't necessarily feel that his actions as a retiree one way or the other, diminish his accomplishments on the track. I never thought that a career in sports was a de facto track to philanthropic endeavor.
 
He is not required to. He was never one for PR work! He is not a glory hog like 46. Are any of the previous Australian champions running a race academy?

Garry McCoy runs a race academy for dirt and road riders

Bayliss assists with coaching for some

Cudlins run Motostars
 
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None of them on a Ducati, or on a Honda with non-SNS tires.

You are a child of a lesser god anyway. How many world titles did Valentino have before he turned 25. Marcy Marc had 6.

I know it cannot happen but I wish VR would stay around until Marquez wins the 10th MotoGP title. I would pay a lot to see that.
 
I know it cannot happen but I wish VR would stay around until Marquez wins the 10th MotoGP title. I would pay a lot to see that.

He'll hear about it.

And unleash his hoards to say it doesn't count until he gets 11 because 2015 doesn't count.

Even though Rossi kicked him off the bike.
 
There's every possibility that Rossi will be on the grid when/if Marquez goes 9x all with a control tyre and over half wth control electronics against the strongest field in a long time.
 

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