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The first rider I became aware regularly of doing this was Pedrosa during the 2004 season in the 250 class.
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Rossi's leg dangle is more pronounced than others. He really get's that thing out there and lets it drag. It's <u>not</u> a thing of beauty IMO. Sometimes it just looks downright awkward.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Goldwing @ Jun 21 2009, 04:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>You’ve all got it wrong. Rossi might not have started it but he did start when he punted Sete off at the last corner. He continued doing it because a lot of people said that he was out of control before he used Sete as a break barrier as his leg was hanging out just before the hit and that was the proof. Rossi quickly denied that he was out of control and said it was his style, and has used that style ever since. Now all the riders are doing it to prevent any speculation that they may have been out of control when they shunt some one into the dirt.
There now it’s settled.
nice!
As it goes, I sort of agree with you, but not quite so cynically!
Rossi's move on Sete can be seen duplicated at any motocross at any level. You throw it down the inside of someone with your leg hanging out, hoping for the perfect balance between survival and taking the other guys line away!
It's a curious technique, and maybe only half developed! It happens on the hard braking corners. It happens during overtaking, or while under pressure. Rossi has been using it to make himself....'wider', have you noticed?
I think of hard packed dirt tracking, or long tracking, where the surface is as near as damnit concrete.
I wonder about the day a moto gp rider heads over the crest of turn 1 at Laguna, slings his leg forward and throws it sideways into turn 2!!!
There now it’s settled.
As it goes, I sort of agree with you, but not quite so cynically!
Rossi's move on Sete can be seen duplicated at any motocross at any level. You throw it down the inside of someone with your leg hanging out, hoping for the perfect balance between survival and taking the other guys line away!
It's a curious technique, and maybe only half developed! It happens on the hard braking corners. It happens during overtaking, or while under pressure. Rossi has been using it to make himself....'wider', have you noticed?
I think of hard packed dirt tracking, or long tracking, where the surface is as near as damnit concrete.
I wonder about the day a moto gp rider heads over the crest of turn 1 at Laguna, slings his leg forward and throws it sideways into turn 2!!!
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Burky @ Jul 17 2009, 10:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>
nice!
As it goes, I sort of agree with you, but not quite so cynically!
Rossi's move on Sete can be seen duplicated at any motocross at any level. You throw it down the inside of someone with your leg hanging out, hoping for the perfect balance between survival and taking the other guys line away!
It's a curious technique, and maybe only half developed! It happens on the hard braking corners. It happens during overtaking, or while under pressure. Rossi has been using it to make himself....'wider', have you noticed?
I think of hard packed dirt tracking, or long tracking, where the surface is as near as damnit concrete.
I wonder about the day a moto gp rider heads over the crest of turn 1 at Laguna, slings his leg forward and throws it sideways into turn 2!!!
Nice thought burkey! Lets see them all with a big pair of f##k off renthal bars on there, that's be cool as.
Pete
As it goes, I sort of agree with you, but not quite so cynically!
Rossi's move on Sete can be seen duplicated at any motocross at any level. You throw it down the inside of someone with your leg hanging out, hoping for the perfect balance between survival and taking the other guys line away!
It's a curious technique, and maybe only half developed! It happens on the hard braking corners. It happens during overtaking, or while under pressure. Rossi has been using it to make himself....'wider', have you noticed?
I think of hard packed dirt tracking, or long tracking, where the surface is as near as damnit concrete.
I wonder about the day a moto gp rider heads over the crest of turn 1 at Laguna, slings his leg forward and throws it sideways into turn 2!!!
Nice thought burkey! Lets see them all with a big pair of f##k off renthal bars on there, that's be cool as.
Pete
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (basspete @ Jul 18 2009, 08:17 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Nice thought burkey! Lets see them all with a big pair of f##k off renthal bars on there, that's be cool as.
Pete
Absofinglutely!
Thinking back, who was it........some daft Aussie, when I was a kid! Crosby?? Something like that!
Pete
Absofinglutely!
Thinking back, who was it........some daft Aussie, when I was a kid! Crosby?? Something like that!
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Arrabbiata1 @ Jul 17 2009, 09:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>The first rider I became aware regularly of doing this was Pedrosa during the 2004 season in the 250 class.
The years about right but I think it was someone like Gary McCoy, it was someone who also did a fair bit of off road riding as well. I'll have to dig deep into the memory banks for that one.
The years about right but I think it was someone like Gary McCoy, it was someone who also did a fair bit of off road riding as well. I'll have to dig deep into the memory banks for that one.
Kropotkin is wondering too
The Truth Behind The Rossi Leg Wave
cool story about dirt trackers looking behind
The Truth Behind The Rossi Leg Wave
cool story about dirt trackers looking behind
I can't wait for Lorenzo to jam it up the inside while Rossi leg is out there dangling. I would bump it if it was in my way.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (SackWack @ Jul 23 2009, 01:08 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I can't wait for Lorenzo to jam it up the inside while Rossi leg is out there dangling. I would bump it if it was in my way.
i dare him to do it
i dare him to do it
I saw/heard Loris Capirossi being interviewed about the 'piedino' move. That's what Italians call it...roughly translated it means 'little foot'. Loris was saying that the riders have had to adapt their riding to the 800's and that the piedino comes out more or less instinctively on left turns.
So I don't think it's a Rossi invention at all and lots of riders are doing it because it feels comfortable to ride that way. There's no point trying this at home. We're not riding Motogp bikes at those speeds. The thing is that lap times at most tracks have been faster than ever on the 800cc's and I guess it's just one more way to adapt. Why it's more of a left hand turn thing not even Loris could say except that it felt 'right'. (or maybe it IS Rossi after all and Loris is just a big old copycat
)
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (SackWack @ Jul 17 2009, 10:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Rossi's leg dangle is more pronounced than others. He really get's that thing out there and lets it drag. It's <u>not</u> a thing of beauty IMO. Sometimes it just looks downright awkward.
Might I remind you that Rossi's height is 1.78m. Dani Pedrosa measures in at 1.5m. That's just 2cm short of a whole foot difference. Rossi's leg dangle is more pronounced simply because he's got the longest legs in motogp.
So I don't think it's a Rossi invention at all and lots of riders are doing it because it feels comfortable to ride that way. There's no point trying this at home. We're not riding Motogp bikes at those speeds. The thing is that lap times at most tracks have been faster than ever on the 800cc's and I guess it's just one more way to adapt. Why it's more of a left hand turn thing not even Loris could say except that it felt 'right'. (or maybe it IS Rossi after all and Loris is just a big old copycat
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (SackWack @ Jul 17 2009, 10:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Rossi's leg dangle is more pronounced than others. He really get's that thing out there and lets it drag. It's <u>not</u> a thing of beauty IMO. Sometimes it just looks downright awkward.
Might I remind you that Rossi's height is 1.78m. Dani Pedrosa measures in at 1.5m. That's just 2cm short of a whole foot difference. Rossi's leg dangle is more pronounced simply because he's got the longest legs in motogp.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Bikergirl @ Jul 23 2009, 11:24 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Why it's more of a left hand turn thing not even Loris could say except that it felt 'right'. (or maybe it IS Rossi after all and Loris is just a big old copycat
)
It's more of a left hand thing because riders use the right foot to work the rear brake.
However - I noticed at Sachenring that Rossi was doing on the right side too. I have
seen superbikes set up before with thumb-brakes - no reason why one couldn't be
used on a moto-gp bike too.
And in general racers tend to favor one side over the other - which is a certainly a factor
in why certain racers favor certain tracks which have greater or lesser number of
turns to the left or right.
It's more of a left hand thing because riders use the right foot to work the rear brake.
However - I noticed at Sachenring that Rossi was doing on the right side too. I have
seen superbikes set up before with thumb-brakes - no reason why one couldn't be
used on a moto-gp bike too.
And in general racers tend to favor one side over the other - which is a certainly a factor
in why certain racers favor certain tracks which have greater or lesser number of
turns to the left or right.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Keshav @ Jul 23 2009, 04:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>It's more of a left hand thing because riders use the right foot to work the rear brake.
However - I noticed at Sachenring that Rossi was doing on the right side too. I have
seen superbikes set up before with thumb-brakes - no reason why one couldn't be
used on a moto-gp bike too.
And in general racers tend to favor one side over the other - which is a certainly a factor
in why certain racers favor certain tracks which have greater or lesser number of
turns to the left or right.
mick doohan had one i believe due to the reduced mobility etc in his leg after that assen crash. so yes, i do believe they have been used in gps for quite a long time, most likely before they got to wsbk.
However - I noticed at Sachenring that Rossi was doing on the right side too. I have
seen superbikes set up before with thumb-brakes - no reason why one couldn't be
used on a moto-gp bike too.
And in general racers tend to favor one side over the other - which is a certainly a factor
in why certain racers favor certain tracks which have greater or lesser number of
turns to the left or right.
mick doohan had one i believe due to the reduced mobility etc in his leg after that assen crash. so yes, i do believe they have been used in gps for quite a long time, most likely before they got to wsbk.
