Whats Up with the Foot down

PASSI · Jun 18, 2009

to be honest - just being curios - i tried it out today riding into a left turn breaking down from app. 110 mph (when i had shifted down to 2. gear)...it feels SOOOO different and i think if u do it in almost every corner it gets quite hard to always bring up the power, cause ur leg is being pulled to the front quite hard if u break hard.

besides i felt like an ..... and had to look around noones watching LOL

i have NO idea what that should be good for! personally i think it has sth. to do with the psyche...if he MIGHT slip he MIGHT be able to catch it, but i dont think it would work.

in my try it distracted me a lot from the feeling for the bike / hard braking etc.

but i think rossi rides slightly better than me! => LOOOL

baldylocks · Jun 18, 2009

PASSI · Jun 18, 2009

whaddup? whats ur problem?

please in full sentences this time! LOL

basspete · Jun 18, 2009

It works for Vale so everyone else will do it to try and ride like him.

Anyhoo, it looks better than that .... Haslam playing accordion with his knees at every corner.

And of course Stoner does it to try and make himself look vaguely interesting.

Pete

Arrabbiata1 · Jun 18, 2009

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (basspete @ Jun 18 2009, 11:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>It works for Vale so everyone else will do it to try and ride like him.

Anyhoo, it looks better than that .... Haslam playing accordion with his knees at every corner.

Does anyone remember the Poggialli under braking, and his resultant unwitting impersonation of a nodding dog?

chopperman · Jun 18, 2009

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (basspete @ Jun 18 2009, 11:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>It works for Vale so everyone else will do it to try and ride like him.

Anyhoo, it looks better than that .... Haslam playing accordion with his knees at every corner.

And of course Stoner does it to try and make himself look vaguely interesting.

Pete

The California Kid · Jun 18, 2009

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (PASSI @ Jun 18 2009, 03:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>to be honest - just being curios - i tried it out today riding into a left turn breaking down from app. 110 mph (when i had shifted down to 2. gear)...it feels SOOOO different and i think if u do it in almost every corner it gets quite hard to always bring up the power, cause ur leg is being pulled to the front quite hard if u break hard.

besides i felt like an ..... and had to look around noones watching LOL

i have NO idea what that should be good for! personally i think it has sth. to do with the psyche...if he MIGHT slip he MIGHT be able to catch it, but i dont think it would work.

in my try it distracted me a lot from the feeling for the bike / hard braking etc.

but i think rossi rides slightly better than me! => LOOOL
Thats the reason why i wouldnt even consider trying it to me it seems like it can only work for some one with the skills of Rossi or Stoner ETC. ETC.

PASSI · Jun 18, 2009

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (The California Kid @ Jun 18 2009, 10:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Thats the reason why i wouldnt even consider trying it to me it seems like it can only work for some one with the skills of Rossi or Stoner ETC. ETC.

of course ur right! i didnt do it breaking very late or sth. i know its nothing to be done on the road of course! was just a try and felt so damn strange i can tell ya!

Craig3089 · Jun 18, 2009

i was having the same discussion with my dad earlier, haha. i said i thought it was to do with rossi using it as a method to save the front, should it wash out, as he still held the brake and tipped it into the corner. dad agreed to some extent as he only used to do it when he was pushing real hard. but he thought it was probably a way to transfer weight around. i think the others do it, because they think it'll make them faster.

Keshav · Jun 18, 2009

I just rented the Moto GP 2001 review a few weeks ago and there was a rider in several races
doing it. I'm ...... if I can remember who. But it wasn't Rossi.

xx CURVE xx · Jun 18, 2009

mylexicon · Jun 18, 2009

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (basspete @ Jun 18 2009, 03:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>It works for Vale so everyone else will do it to try and ride like him.

Anyhoo, it looks better than that .... Haslam playing accordion with his knees at every corner.

And of course Stoner does it to try and make himself look vaguely interesting.

Pete

You need to grace us with your presence more often Pete.

Why diss Haslam though? I do a little bit of the electronic shock knee as well. Its SOOOOOOO much easier to roll your foot to raise the gear lever than it is to lift your toes; especially if you have big feet.

Gaz · Jun 19, 2009

As another mentioned taht they had seen in a video well before Rossi, I can recall occurrences of the 500cc era guys (MD, Rainey, Schwantz etc) doing similar, just not with the regulairty so to say VR started it is not IMO correct, but yes he has 'mainstreamed' it.

The interesting point to look at is that it only occurs into left hand turns which to me indicates purely it is a balance and turn aide/confidence builder (or have I not seen enough and missing right handers). The obvious reason for the left handers is that teh right foot may well be trail braking and is therefore used, thus the left foot off works, wheeras in rights it just cannot occur.

But I have also seen different variations of it in terms of 'severity' and there was once from VR in teh Catalunya race where it looked to be more a 'saviour' than it would normally so it obviously to me has a tremendous assisting effect.

As for motard, could watch that any day as IMO it is the best form of two wheeled motorsports going, just a shame that the scene in Oz is extremely small.

Garry

rickyduck · Jun 19, 2009

It also works as an effective air breaker.. sort of.
Also most riders get cramp going fast into corners.. so they do that to stretch their legs. Thats why stoner doesnt do it - he wants something to moan about after the race.

chopperman · Jun 19, 2009

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (rickyduck @ Jun 19 2009, 09:57 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>It also works as an effective air breaker.. sort of.
Also most riders get cramp going fast into corners.. so they do that to stretch their legs. Thats why stoner doesnt do it - he wants something to moan about after the race.

Fred00 · Jun 19, 2009

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Gaz @ Jun 19 2009, 09:24 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>The interesting point to look at is that it only occurs into left hand turns which to me indicates purely it is a balance and turn aide/confidence builder (or have I not seen enough and missing right handers). The obvious reason for the left handers is that teh right foot may well be trail braking and is therefore used, thus the left foot off works, wheeras in rights it just cannot occur.
It's not only into left handers. He did it into turn one at Catalunya for example. Had his whole leg far out.

Gaz · Jun 19, 2009

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Fred00 @ Jun 19 2009, 09:26 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>It's not only into left handers. He did it into turn one at Catalunya for example. Had his whole leg far out.

I am looking at it from a consistency view and have not seen it occur on the right handers in the manner or frequency it has on the lefts, thus why I ask/raise the question.

If we are talking the same incident at T1 than to me that was more of an 'aid to avoid issue' approach where he got in warm and needed the aid rather than what appears to be a technique that is used in lefts.

Garry

BarryMachine · Jun 19, 2009

gee you guys

...... surely you have tken a corner so on edge that you take the foot off occasionally!? ...... these guys are just more at the limit than they have ever been .... its as simple as that, its the most competitive era of MGP ever ...... so we see more "on the edge" moves.

kieran · Jun 19, 2009

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (rickyduck @ Jun 19 2009, 06:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>It also works as an effective air breaker.. sort of.
Also most riders get cramp going fast into corners.. so they do that to stretch their legs. Thats why stoner doesnt do it - he wants something to moan about after the race.

Rickyfuck or whatever your name is....have you watched a race lately? Stoner does it in most of the left handers that Rossi does, but Rossi seems to be the only one who does it in right handers.
Still, i wouldn't want to get in the way of your moaning.

rickyduck · Jun 19, 2009

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Son of Doohan @ Jun 19 2009, 12:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Rickyfuck or whatever your name is....have you watched a race lately? Stoner does it in most of the left handers that Rossi does, but Rossi seems to be the only one who does it in right handers.
Still, i wouldn't want to get in the way of your moaning.
It's called a joke, no need to get personal..

After all, it looks like we both like Doohan.

I don't seriously believe its down to the riders getting cramp. I'm not the biggest stoner lover, so yes I make jokes.. but don't mean no offence or seriousness...

Course I watched them. Hell I'm there at catalunya, assen, donnington and valencia.

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