Joined Apr 2008
7K Posts | 3K+
Out of Nowhere
Sod AV's H2 what about the upholstery and the aftermarket casters on my Chesterfield?
Joined Jul 2007
5K Posts | 1K+
unda cheese
I just purchased another bike to add to the collection. With the price of all the Japanese super bikes now getting close to the $25k mark with onroad costs the reduced price of the 2016 H2 became more and more appealing. Its the first brand new bike i have ever purchased and I liked the fact that when searching for second hand models in Australia I couldn't find any available at all so i dare say it will hold its value a little better than the conventional models.
The bike came with free Akrapovic slip on to replace the standard pipe (that looks big enough to produce its own gravity). Ive installed a tail tidy, radiator guard and tank pad. In stock form they produce about 205whp at the tyre, at the first service it gets an unpgraged quick shift load cell sensor to allow the autoblip down shifting, a DNA air filter, titanium link pipe and Woolich ECU flash which takes the power up to about 265whp. Ive organised to have a before and after dyno pulls done on the bike at the first service to see the increase for myself.
Its a proper beast of a bike and rides like nothing else I have ever ridden, all the suspension, brakes, clutch and gearbox are top of the line no expense spared type units. Apparently the dogring style gearbox on the bike is lifted straight out of the 2009 Kawasaki MotoGP bike. Its strong and snappy with its shifting but does require a GPS to try and find neutral which is bit of a ..... when parking it. The H2 tech Marty was telling me that he caught up with Stoners dad Colin and was telling him about the performance he was getting out of the H2's. Colin was baffled as to how the hell you could use so much power on the road, he explained that Casey's Ducati had 260hp and even at the Phillip Island track he was only able to hold it wide open at full throttle for about 6 seconds a lap.
I'm pretty stoked about the bike as you can tell, Cyclone Debbie has brought bucketloads of rain to Brisbane and its not the sort of bike want to ride in the pouring rain. I'll post some more pics and info after I get the first service done for anyone interested.
Does it electronically limit your top speed or are you able to pin it with no restrictions
Joined Sep 2016
894 Posts | 557+
Queensland Australia
Thanks heaps mate, from what the mechanic tells me the factory tune will close the throttle bodies down to 30% when at full throttle at around 11k rpm. I don't know if there is an electronic top speed governor as part of the stock tune but id say they would have put something in there. The ECU flash removes all the restrictions anyway.
The bike has shitloads of mechanical grip and it runs quite sticky soft rubber from factory. I had the TC completely disabled when I test rode it but in saying that the mechanic on the other H2 was leaving 40m darkies out of every corner he could by rolling on hard. I haven't tried yet for myself as I'm meant to be running it in but I'm told the TC system in its lowest setting will still allow quite a ridiculous amount of wheelspin so I haven't really hamfisted it anywhere in the lower gears.
Its very difficult to try and pin it in 1st or 2nd gear anyway, the power delivery is quite brutal and even rolling on aggressively it will lift the front violently and try to rip your arms from their sockets before you can even get anywhere near 2/3's open so I tend to short shift in the lower gears. Definitely a bike well worth taking for a test ride.
I bought a brand new leftover 2015 cb650f abs.
Standsrd issue motorcycling. It's pretty fun actually, maybe just having a road legal bike again for the first time in about 5 years. Big scooter fun!
Standsrd issue motorcycling. It's pretty fun actually, maybe just having a road legal bike again for the first time in about 5 years. Big scooter fun!
Joined Sep 2016
894 Posts | 557+
Queensland Australia
I just picked up my Ninja H2 from its first service and upgrade. They removed the catalytic converter and installed a very nice (and factory) looking link pipe. They also installed a DNA air filter and flashed the ECU with a Woolich Racing tune.
I had arranged for them to do before and after dyno pulls to see the difference the upgrade makes (results below). Judging from the dyno graph getting more power (not that you'd ever need it) is as simple as lifting the rev limiter.
The bike was ridiculously powerful to begin with ... riding it was a bit like being best friends with an axe murderer .... now the axe murder has turned into an antisocial psychotic homicidal maniac on an ice binge. I never understood why Kawasaki dulled out and detuned the bike so much ... but i do now.
I had arranged for them to do before and after dyno pulls to see the difference the upgrade makes (results below). Judging from the dyno graph getting more power (not that you'd ever need it) is as simple as lifting the rev limiter.
The bike was ridiculously powerful to begin with ... riding it was a bit like being best friends with an axe murderer .... now the axe murder has turned into an antisocial psychotic homicidal maniac on an ice binge. I never understood why Kawasaki dulled out and detuned the bike so much ... but i do now.
Joined Apr 2008
7K Posts | 3K+
Out of Nowhere
I just picked up my Ninja H2 from its first service and upgrade. They removed the catalytic converter and installed a very nice (and factory) looking link pipe. They also installed a DNA air filter and flashed the ECU with a Woolich Racing tune.
I had arranged for them to do before and after dyno pulls to see the difference the upgrade makes (results below). Judging from the dyno graph getting more power (not that you'd ever need it) is as simple as lifting the rev limiter.
The bike was ridiculously powerful to begin with ... riding it was a bit like being best friends with an axe murderer .... now the axe murder has turned into an antisocial psychotic homicidal maniac on an ice binge. I never understood why Kawasaki dulled out and detuned the bike so much ... but i do now.
Ouch!
Joined Sep 2016
894 Posts | 557+
Queensland Australia
I like that dyno chart. You can never have enough power.
I used to think the same thing .... but its actually quite difficult now to ride around town. The throttle is even more choppy now when you pick it up out of corners (gently as you can)... I can see why MotoGP teams invest so much in the electronics to smooth out the throttle response with the anti jerk system. I have to use the clutch in slow corners when its cranked over because it jumps around and upsets the suspension.
Its much louder and sounds angrier, popping all the time and has even has flames come out the exhaust pipe when you back off from medium range RPM .... harder to ride slow but its even more intoxicating fun. :devil:
Joined Sep 2016
894 Posts | 557+
Queensland Australia
Cheers bud, Its not a comfortable bike in any way, fuel economy even with the standard tune is atrocious, about 180kms to a full tank let alone now. Tyres last .... all .. it has huge cold tear all around the centre of the rear from managing all the power, its not a pretty bike like a Ducati either ... it looks rather dark and evil, but .... do i love it!
Joined Jul 2007
5K Posts | 1K+
unda cheese
Haha. AVJ. Your comments reflect my brothers and his coworkers who had one for a few weeks. These are all old veterans that are jaded by motorcycles yet were stunned by the power generated. My brother was supposed to have it for a week and turned it back after two days. Says it was mind blowing evil. His coworker took it across Alligator Alley and cruised between 140 to 180. He had to refill after 50 miles. She's a devil for sure. Like you said, its always making wicked noises, even while idling.
Joined Sep 2016
894 Posts | 557+
Queensland Australia
Hahahah, I could imagine someone dropping it back early. Definitely worth the experience of riding one should the opportunity ever arise, its pretty bonkers but always brings a smile.
I was lost in some side street through Hamilton (bit of a yuppie area) on the way home on Saturday and tried to give it a squirt between the series of speed humps. 1/6th throttle has it moving pretty quick and I rolled on from there to about 1/3 throttle, it had lost all traction leaving a big long skid mark and making a hell of a racket ... i noticed some guy walking his with kid getting all frantic jumping down to grab and protect his child ...... its just pure evil.
Joined Feb 2007
11K Posts | 2K+
Tennessee
GP power for 25k, goes to show where the millions go to get those few extra seconds . As far as the twitchyness, I've found that with big torque, simply selecting a different gear smooths the around town stuff. Mine puts out 122 ftlbs of torque and will easily pull the around town stuff in 3rd. I am jealous of that hp number, you would think 200 plus would appease anyone, but once you get used to it, never fails you want more. I'm try to imagine 250 on what, a 400lb wet bike, gives me a hard on.
Joined Sep 2016
894 Posts | 557+
Queensland Australia
The choppiness of the throttle is like nothing I've ever felt and its quite brutal, I use my thumb and push it ever so gently to pick up the throttle mid corner but when the FBW butterflies react more often than not are pretty intense and it jerks the bike about upsetting the suspension and flow of things. The tuner has told me its quite tricky to get rid of that attribute ... I've started using the clutch when i pick up the throttle in corners to soften it a little which actually seems to help.
Joined May 2017
13 Posts | 7+
Madison, WI
It's no H2 (sweet bike!), but this is my $1200 K5 GSXR 600 track bike. Going in next week for new fork seals, chain/sprocket kit, and to install my Pirelli Supercorsa V2 tires. After that, suspension set up by TrackSide Suspension here in WI, then Road America and Blackhawk Farms!
I finally got my dad's old '79 Lowrider running again. Spent 14 years hiding in a shed after he passed away. Still needs some fine tuning, but it rides pretty well for being old as dirt
I finally got my dad's old '79 Lowrider running again. Spent 14 years hiding in a shed after he passed away. Still needs some fine tuning, but it rides pretty well for being old as dirt
Joined Dec 2015
652 Posts | 567+
San Diego
I finally got my bike back from the shop since it stalled on freeway few weeks ago. It turned out CB300F had a recall on Connecting rod and that was exactly the part that broke and caused the engine stall. Honda covered the cost of repair (recalled part and collateral damage of course) and replaced crankshaft, piston, oil pump system etc. Now my bike feels a bit more powerful somehow even though it vibrates more when in 3-4 gear. It's like my bike was a dainty 300 with purring engine but came back as a grumbling crazy old lady. I like how it feels in 6th on freeway though. I'm not so knowledgeable mechanically so I don't know what to really think of it but I'm just happy to have my bike back.
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Joined Sep 2016
894 Posts | 557+
Queensland Australia
Wow, doing a rod on a bike that seems so new is a worry, what year model is it? Lucky you stalled it when it finally gave way rather than having the rear tyre lock up on you at freeway speeds. Seems odd that it runs and sounds different if all they did was replace standard internals like for like?
