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What About Hayden?

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Katt @ Jul 12 2006, 10:40 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>is there a pecking order now?

Yeah: All for one and one for all.
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HRC just being indecisive again. "Oh hayden has a pionts advantage, but wouldn`t t be cool if Pedosa won?!"
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　With Rossi stalking them they can`t afford to have a designated order. Both of them just gotta ride thier ..... off.

I think Rossi can catch Hayden qutie easily, You can`t count on Rossi winning every round, but you cant count on Hayden getting on the podium every round either. And if Pedrosa has found some consistency to back up his race wins, he might well take it too. My heart`s on Hayden, but my money`s still on Rossi. I think he knows what he has to do and now he`s gonna do it. Then again, so far this season it seems that whenever Rossi gets back on track after a bad luck streak, he gets hit again. It could go any way. I think Laguna will be a really crucial round here.
 
I have a feeling that Hayden's career is going to be like Crivilles. Yes Criville won a championship in 1999 but that was the year that Doohan wrecked his leg. He was a good rider but he just couldn't get out of Doohans shadow. Hayden may win the title this year (though it's not over yet) but I don't think he going to be a multiple winner of the WC. He is definately a good and consistent rider but the only times he has won a race are Laguna last year and a couple of rounds ago when he had the race won until he made a mistake under pressure and the only reason he came away with that one is coz Edwards also made a mistake. I may be eating my words in a few years but we will see. I would like to be wrong about him coz I do like him!
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Ooost @ Jul 11 2006, 02:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>HRC gave him a new chassis and it didn't agree with Donny or Nicky. I haven't heard whether or not he will continue testing it or go back to what he was using before.
Mamola said Hayden was using the new chassis in practice and qualifying at Donnington, but couldn't get on with it as his times showed so they put the old chassis back in for race day, which he then had to readjust too after running with the new one for a couple of days.
 
I have to say that I'm impressed by Hayden. His manners from heavier and less agile bikes used to penalise him so much in the past. He seemed to fight old vices but they kept on popping up again and again. Watching him struggling was a bit unsettling.
This is the first season that I have seen him tracing more efficiently each circuit. He has definitely adapted his style and explored his edge, very prudently. Well, it took him some time, but riders have to change their style several times in their career.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (richo @ Jul 12 2006, 02:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>"Oh hayden has a pionts advantage, but wouldn`t t be cool if Pedosa won?!"
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thats exactly what it seems like to me

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (richo @ Jul 12 2006, 02:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>My heart`s on Hayden, but my money`s still on Rossi.

same
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... still dont see why HRC don't realise that helping Hayden may at least give them a go a winning the championship. Pedrossa isn't consistent enough to take it this year, while hayden has an obvious head start ... ahh the buggers
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (richo @ Jul 12 2006, 12:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>"Oh hayden has a pionts advantage, but wouldn`t t be cool if Pedosa won?!"
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Yeah it'll be cool if Pedrosa won, but the man himself isn't aiming for that this year is he?
 
Keeping my money on Hayden,he still remains consistent thru any pressure although I think it will be very tight at the end of season.
 
Basically what everyone has said here is spot on. HRC appear to have no idea which rider to back as their championship hope. As a result, neither are getting the support they need to fight Rossi. I still wonder what Nicky could do on a 'Spec' model with a few more horses and developed chassis. Nicky, although it has taken more time than most thought, has changed his style and become a challenger. And Sachsenring and Laguna are the crucial points in the season. Nicky has proved his worth at both rounds in the past, he needs to win AT LEAST one of them to keep his championship hopes alive. Personally, I'm a bit nervous for him to go to Germany with the 'Evo.'
 
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i dont get it ... why wont they choose one or the other, and focus their attention on them? Its what happens everywhere else isn't it?
 
It is what happens everywhere else but HRC have a major dilemma. They have the championship leader, and a very marketable rider in Hayden. At the same time, Pedrosa is in a championship winning position, which I don't believe they thought he could be in so early on. Pedrosa is their golden boy, the 800 is supposedly designed around a "smaller rider." They have two guys that they would like to win the title with, I personally think they would prefer one to win over the other this year but that's just my opinion.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Ooost @ Jul 12 2006, 02:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Personally, I'm a bit nervous for him to go to Germany with the 'Evo.' Nah, Ooost, relax and enjoy the race. That bike has allowed him to be exactly where he is now and he knows it throughly. If anything, the evo will end up being more manouvrable and with higher curve speed, in anticipation to the 800 cc engines, and Sachsering is a small circuit.

I'm with richo, I bet this is 'All for one and one for all'. This is a transition year for everyone. Honestly, no one will blame HRC for having one second and one third in the final standings. Not if Rossi is first, that is
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I agree...Hayden has proven to be very consistant. I find that even more impressive with HRC contantly putting him test duty. I think that really shows how good the boy is. Nicky really does need to win at least one of the next two races.

As far as Edwards is concerned, I think he will be a force at Laguna. I don't think Stoner or Melandri will be at the front. Marco really doesn't like Laguna and this will be Stoner's first visit. I am on the fence about Dani mainly because of the strength needed to push the bike around some of those corners, Especially the corkscrew.
 
He's a very good rider and has had a good and pretty darn lucky start to the season but he's being eaten up now by the likes of Rossi and Pedrosa.
 
I agree with the postee. He's a good rider and consistency does count. Look at Colin Edwards in the 2002 SBK championship.

I never used to think he had the balls to fight with others and although he might not be the scrapper that stoner is I was impressed by his post race chats when he said he wasn't happy with seconds and wanted to win.

Ok he was lucky Edwards came off at Assen but I thought it good he was mucho fired up about having won. I've grown to like him more. He makes comments about races being entertaining for fans and although I never felt he delivered in other seasons I hope in this one he does.

I wouldn't be at all disappointed if he won the championship.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (richo @ Jul 12 2006, 12:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Yeah: All for one and one for all.
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HRC just being indecisive again. "Oh hayden has a pionts advantage, but wouldn`t t be cool if Pedosa won?!"
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　With Rossi stalking them they can`t afford to have a designated order. Both of them just gotta ride thier ..... off.

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Whoever wins this is going to deserve it. If it`s Rossi, he needs an incredible comeback, worthy of the title, if it`s Pedrosa, he`s adapted remarkably quickly, beaten the great Rossi and deserves the title and if it`s Hayden he`s managed to stave off the insane bull that will be Rossi`s late season charge and he also deserves the title, if it`s Meladri then he would have had to work Miracles to get from where he is to the top and he is also a deserving winner, and if it`s Cardoso, well if he wins I deserve to get embarrased.
 
We all know how talented Pedrosa is, he thrashed the 125 season, and the 250 in his debut year, and literally dominated in his second. Then why not Moto GP? He's building momentum, and after the incredible performance at Donnington he will be a major threat at Sachsenring. All it takes is one DNF by Hayden and Pedrosa and Rossi are 15 or so points behind him, maybe even less depending on their results. I think we could see an amazing battle between the three come the end of the season, and with Melandri hot on their tales adding to the excitement.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Checa_7 @ Jul 13 2006, 10:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>We all know how talented Pedrosa is, he thrashed the 125 season, and the 250 in his debut year, and literally dominated in his second. Then why not Moto GP? He's building momentum, and after the incredible performance at Donnington he will be a major threat at Sachsenring. All it takes is one DNF by Hayden and Pedrosa and Rossi are 15 or so points behind him, maybe even less depending on their results. I think we could see an amazing battle between the three come the end of the season, and with Melandri hot on their tales adding to the excitement.

Any one of them could DNF anywhere, which makes it even more turbulent, which makes for exciting races
 

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