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VR Effect: Negative Repercussion for GP

A couple years ago in Phillip Island when Iannone hit that bird, and Nick was talking with Gavin Emmett about it and said that the event was "catastrophic for the bird" or whatever, that really cracked me up.

Sorry...off topic.

Years? I know time flies but I could have sworn that was just a few months ago! ;)
 
Just read the trunk article, quite interesting and a rather serious look at the issue.
Love the moment of levity afforded by the "is anybody else racing or just rossi ?" line.
I will have to use it the next time I am in the midst of the yellow horde And having to listen to Nick Harris.
That guy is way past his sell by date, although I will always love some of his good lines....."he's all over the back of him like cheap suit!" comes to mind.
Time for a new face in the announcers booth too imo
 
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Actually I saw that article posted earlier in the thread when I was reading through it today and read both parts 1 and 2. I thought it laid out a lot of the problems that I've had in my mind for the last couple years in a really clear way.

The only thing about that article that made me squirm a bit was the criticism of Nick Harris, the motogp.com announcer. I know he might speak a little too much about Rossi and I definitely think that the media has a big part in the cult of Rossi, but I love Nick's commentary... "Watery sunshine" and what not. A couple years ago in Phillip Island when Iannone hit that bird, and Nick was talking with Gavin Emmett about it and said that the event was "catastrophic for the bird" or whatever, that really cracked me up.

Sorry...off topic.

Nick Harris is a huge problem when it comes to Valentino Rossi.

His enthusiasm ebbs and flows with what Rossi is doing, to the point that it becomes obvious that he is a less than impartial commentator. During the Ducati years, when VR got anywhere near the top 5, and let alone a podium, Harris would become ecstatic about the possibility of VR landing a finishing position high up.

Even worse was when Stoner was running away with the title in 2007, the complete disinterest Harris had when he talked about Stoner. Rewatch Donington 2007 if you can, when Stoner crosses the finish line after dominating the race, Harris reacts as if he were talking about someone walking down the street at a leisurely pace. He took every opportunity during that race to talk about Valentino Rossi and to try and make it sound as if Rossi was doing amazing things on the circuit.

.... Nick Harris.
 
Nick Harris is a huge problem when it comes to Valentino Rossi.

His enthusiasm ebbs and flows with what Rossi is doing, to the point that it becomes obvious that he is a less than impartial commentator. During the Ducati years, when VR got anywhere near the top 5, and let alone a podium, Harris would become ecstatic about the possibility of VR landing a finishing position high up.

Even worse was when Stoner was running away with the title in 2007, the complete disinterest Harris had when he talked about Stoner. Rewatch Donington 2007 if you can, when Stoner crosses the finish line after dominating the race, Harris reacts as if he were talking about someone walking down the street at a leisurely pace. He took every opportunity during that race to talk about Valentino Rossi and to try and make it sound as if Rossi was doing amazing things on the circuit.

.... Nick Harris.

I would have a hard time arguing against your point. So many times when my partner would watch a race with me she would ask me why the commentator keeps on raving on about Valentino Rossi like he's the only one on track. I would love a dollar for every time I've heard the line "9 times..." come out of Nicks mouth. It also makes me wonder if behind the scenes Dorna actually makes influential suggestions on what he is supposed to say during commentary. He does have good things to say about other riders but it doesn't seem very balanced at times. Not a good quality for a commentator who's priority should be able to look at the race from a non-biased perspective.
 
"He took off like a scalded rabbit!" I like Nick Harris. He does fawn over Rossi, but I've always felt that he's been very diplomatic about other riders for the most part. He might be overly enthusiastic about Rossi, but he has never seemed (at least to me) to be blatantly against any other rider. He's extremely knowledgeable and well spoken. And he's entertaining. I'm American, so the type of commentary I'm most familiar with and was most familiar with growing up is a sort of subdued, robotic delivery of "factual" but boring information about performance statistics. You can tell Harris really has a passion for the sport.

I will say, though, that his commentary lost a lot of punch when Gavin Emmett left the motogp.com team. Gavin and Nick were a really good team. They were clearly a generation or two apart but their styles complimented each other well, in my opinion. Where did he go, anyways?
 
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I'll be flying out to Seattle Monday...;)

For work? I suppose it would have to be. People don't typically vacation in Seattle in December.

Actually I never mentioned this. I am from Seattle but currently I live in South Korea. I am an English teacher. I've been here for 8 years but I'm moving back to Seattle in 3 months. It wasn't really relevant information previous to this post.
 
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I prefer Harris to all the other options we've had over the years, the statfest on Eurosport, the two muppets on the BBC and the current twaddle on BT Sport.
 
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I'm not familiar with BT Sport. I would think its coverage would be pretty good, though, if Emmett is the main guy over there. He was a good announcer.
 
Nick Harris is a huge problem when it comes to Valentino Rossi.

His enthusiasm ebbs and flows with what Rossi is doing, to the point that it becomes obvious that he is a less than impartial commentator. During the Ducati years, when VR got anywhere near the top 5, and let alone a podium, Harris would become ecstatic about the possibility of VR landing a finishing position high up.

Even worse was when Stoner was running away with the title in 2007, the complete disinterest Harris had when he talked about Stoner. Rewatch Donington 2007 if you can, when Stoner crosses the finish line after dominating the race, Harris reacts as if he were talking about someone walking down the street at a leisurely pace. He took every opportunity during that race to talk about Valentino Rossi and to try and make it sound as if Rossi was doing amazing things on the circuit.

.... Nick Harris.

To be fair, I was watching live with Nick commentating on the 2 occasions Rossi took another rider out, both at Jerez 2011 and the recent Sepang race, and he called out Rossi as being in the wrong on both occasions.
 
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Nick Harris was actually quite full of praise for Casey and other riders when they won. In fact in 2007 Harris in one race said "People are saying it's the bike and not the rider but where are the other Ducati's?"
 
Nick's reaction to the kick was fine in my book: something like you can bet your house there will be repercussions from that. No sign of fan boy for mine. And listen to his reaction to Stoner's quip in response to the helmeted apology. I think he's fine. He does seem a bit confused at times but he's fine.
 
Nick Harris was actually quite full of praise for Casey and other riders when they won. In fact in 2007 Harris in one race said "People are saying it's the bike and not the rider but where are the other Ducati's?"

I saw plenty of times where Nick was more interested in focusing on Rossi than Casey, and god knows if Rossi had been leading the race, it would have been a nonstop orgasm.
 
To be fair, I was watching live with Nick commentating on the 2 occasions Rossi took another rider out, both at Jerez 2011 and the recent Sepang race, and he called out Rossi as being in the wrong on both occasions.

Yeah and there were plenty of other times where he didn't say .....

Motegi 2010 was perfectly acceptable.
 
Bird, I know all that. The fact remains that Stoner's best season was 2007, on a Ducati. In subsequent years winning on the Ducati became more and more difficult, even for him, as we know. For me the fact that he could be equally competitive on a Ducati (at least in 2007-8) as on a Honda remains amazing. By the way, Honda wasn't exactly dominating before he arrived there either... More than saying he was handicapped by any bike, I's say any bike shone in a terrific way with him on the saddle.

I would argue that the 2011 season would've been greater for stoner if it hadn't have been cut to 16 races for him being taken out by Rossi and of course the cancelation of the Sepang race. Both of which he had a very realistic chance of winning or at worst being on the podium.
 

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