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Understanding of riders, help required please.

Well, yeah, Teams like Manchester City and Spurs are playing much better than Liverpool these days. According to the
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Football analogies?

Man U = Valentino Rossi = Glory hunters
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Southampton = Cal



Leicester City = Yonny Hernandez
 
Football analogies?

Man U = Valentino Rossi = Glory hunters
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Southampton = Cal



Leicester City = Yonny Hernandez



Casey Stoner = Arsenal

Jorge Lorenzo = Chelsea (No Class)

Dani Pedrosa = Machester City

The Rich arab prince manager in Manchester city = The Rich Spanish Sponsor aka Repsol
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Just Kidding
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There's three kinds of people: dicks, ......., and ......... ....... think everyone can get along, and dicks just want to .... all the time without thinking it through. But then you got your ........, Chuck. And all the ........ want us to .... all over everything! So, ....... may get mad at dicks once in a while, because ....... get ...... by dicks. But dicks also .... ........, Chuck. And if they didn't .... the ........, you know what you'd get? You'd get your .... and your ..... all covered in ....!



In Matt Stone and Tray Parker I Trust
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This is my favorite part: " Why is everyone so ....... stupid? Why can't they be more interigent rike me?!?!? I'm so ronery ....... "
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Angel, here is the deal. The riders 1-10 in the standings are all pretty good, and almost close to equal in talent and ability, with a few differences, mainly race craft. But its the machine they ride accounts for most if not all of the differences you see on the track and finishing order. First of all there are two major types of entries, some called "prototypes" (all purpose built machines from head to toe) and the others called CRTs (production derived engine with a prototype chassis). For example, the factory Honda and Yamaha are the best (there has been a debate as to which of the two factories is the best, each position splitting hairs, so lets just say for the sake of argument they are about equal to eachother). Then, their own satellite Yamaha & Honda teams are next best, with the edge going to the Yamaha (probably because they simply have better riders). Then there is a major performance gap to the next machines, starting with factory Ducati, followed by their even worse satellite machines. The next performance gap splits up the CRT entries into another set of tiers in terms of performance. The top of the CRTs is the Aspar team using Aprillia derived engines. Then again, there is a major performance gap to the rest of the CRTs. There are some very good riders on CRTs too, but you won't know it from the finishing order. For example, Randy Depuniet, and as you mentioned, Collin Edwards would probably be in the top 7 if they were on satellite Yamahas. So this should give you a real good clue as to what accounts for the championship standings.



Oh, and the term "alien" is a lazy inaccurate superficial way for people to describe the top riders. Usually, the list include Casey, Pedro, and Lorenzo, though some people will include Rossi in that group. But you can see he is 7th in the standings, so as you can see, this term "alien" is in fact a ........ lazy term that does little to describe the actually reality of the sport in terms of its best riders. It is no coincidence that 3 of the 4 "aliens" are on the best factory bikes, while the one missing "alien" is on a Ducati. Again, the parity of the machines they ride should give you a clue about the performance of the bike, but not necessarily the talent and ability of the rider compared to the rest. Just a thought, but I contend, if you were to put all of the currently riders that people describe as "aliens" on a factory Ducati, none would win, maybe not even podium all season, except maybe Casey Stoner. What does that tell you about this term "alien" then?



This is probably one of the most balanced, accurate posts I've ever read on this site.
 
Been a tad harsh on Cal there aint ya!?







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Haha too right Phil.



Southampton - Ivan Silva
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Where is the 'unlike' button?



Saints, all the way, they will make your hair turn gray, but ....... eh, its better than rooting for the Manchester gay.
 
Well, yeah, Teams like Manchester City and Spurs are playing much better than Liverpool these days. According to the
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To be fair I don't follow football properly, but yes, I would say Spurs is my team, it's a family tradition as my great uncle used to be a well respected groundsman there years ago. Hate is strong word but Arsenal are the team I least like, let's put it that way
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Important to be mindful of that fact that there is much misunderstanding of riders on the grid. The wonderful Hector Barbera immediately springs to mind.



I'm sure you are aware that Casey is currently injured with the distinct possibility that he won't return to the sport this being his last season. His replacement is an example par excellence of a misunderstood rider. Yes, I concede it is a little known fact that Johnny once worked as a hit man for the Real IRA, but to differing degrees many of us have a chequered past and our own skeletons in the closet.



Watching Johnny effortlessly waltz around his opposition with such great finesse reminds one of a dancer or ballerina commanding the stage with effortless poise and grace. Like a damsel fly skipping and darting sublimely over the playground of a summer lake, Johnny came to Suzuka and those 8 hours became his day - his life. But Johnny is to be reborn in the nirvana of prototype heaven. Shedding the shackles of superbike samsara he is set to transcend the gods themselves - his name will be immortal...all will abide by his creed. But before all this he must return to earth and pitch battle with mortal gladiators and their primitive war machinery in the arena of the Nurburgring.
 
Where is the 'unlike' button?



Saints, all the way, they will make your hair turn gray, but ....... eh, its better than rooting for the Manchester gay.



But surely you see the similarities Jum...



Silva relegated from the Premier class



Southampton soon to be relegated from the Premier League

 
This is probably one of the most balanced, accurate posts I've ever read on this site.



Nonsense....you obviously missed this -



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In my mis-spent youth I partook liberally, flagrantly, obsessively, Many codes.

Thought of making a comeback when invited, by some youngies starting up a new club, to a local track for a "look" prior to possibly "having a go" again ..... but I was actually in my 30's then and just watching the start brought back all the old heart pounding anxiety of waiting for the gate to drop ........felt like I would die if I "had a go"
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I do however have a goal to race a bit of speedway again before i die ( maybe I can find an old codgers league or something.?) ......... bugger the anxiety speedway is just so fun. Not sure I could last 4 laps these days though
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When folk ask if i still race these days I say "no, I can't find a track with a motel on every corner"
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Still ride profusely, much on road and much bush (tight, hard, steep, rugged type bush and some wide open dirt roads ).



Refuse to do a track day ....... too frustrating, you go on a track to go as fast as you can, and they seem to frown on that at track days and want you to just cruise around in a single line ...... I don't think I'd get it .
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I'd also strangely love to race minimotos ..... have one but never went through with racing it.



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But surely you see the similarities Jum...



Silva relegated from the Premier class



Southampton soon to be relegated from the Premier League

That aint likely to happen. Bear in mind up until 2005 saints spent 27 years in the Premiership, 26 of those years consecutive. Now we have good management , focus and serious finance. I believe saints are the 3rd or 4th richest club in the prem league. The club has no debt and the best youth academy in Europe and maybe even the world (fergies words). Not only will we stay in this league, within 5 years we will be in Europe. Within ten years we will be supplying a large percentage of home grown players to english clubs .
 

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