Title defeat no concern for Casey Stoner

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Asked if he hoped Rossi would clinch the title on Sunday in Japan rather than the 29-year-old claiming a sixth premier class world crown in front of Stoner’s home crowd in Australia next weekend, Stoner added: “I really don’t care. Each race is the same to me. We just enjoy some tracks more than others, but we have to do the same job every weekend.”

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...So he doesn't give a .... to all his fans who will come to see him in his home circuit? That's a shame...:
I'm glad he has Hayden to teach him a little bit next year...

Mick Doohan used to say exactly the same thing. He treated his home GP as just another race. It didn't seem to worry too many Aussies. He'll put the same effort in at his home GP as any other. That's what a professional does.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (#46 @ Sep 26 2008, 11:44 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>QUOTE
Asked if he hoped Rossi would clinch the title on Sunday in Japan rather than the 29-year-old claiming a sixth premier class world crown in front of Stoner’s home crowd in Australia next weekend, Stoner added: “I really don’t care. Each race is the same to me. We just enjoy some tracks more than others, but we have to do the same job every weekend.”

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...So he doesn't give a .... to all his fans who will come to see him in his home circuit? That's a shame...:
I'm glad he has Hayden to teach him a little bit next year...

Hyper critical when he's winning.

Hyper critical when he's losing.

Stoner can do whatever the hell he wants. He's the fastest man in motogp and he's just riding around in circles until he gets his wrist fixed for the 2009 season.

Isn't this exactly how you like Stoner---defeated? What's the problem?

I seem to remember Rossi packing it in at the end of last season. He didn't even bother to finish at Valencia. He just came in and handed 2nd to Pedrosa. The year before that he chucked it down the road with the title on the line.

Now that the governing body is back in his corner, Rossi is a great champ and Stoner is a defeated chump? Your life must be awful. I can't imagine getting worked up over Stoner's work ethic---this isn't politics, nobody has to vote him on to the bike. Who gives a damn, if he wanted to quit he could. He doesn't have to smile for the camera every lap. Unlike Rossi, Stoner is not on DORNA's payroll.

In 2003 Rossi had dyed hair, he wore rad shades with a backward cap, and he took swings at other riders. In 2004 he showed up with no earings, no shades or backward cap, and no hair dye, and a cleverly disguised salon quality hairdo. Tell me he wasn't put on the DORNA payroll to bring Yamaha back to life and put some drama in the championship chase.

Ezy has created a marketing monster.

Oh yeah, back to Stoner. He can do whatever Rossi is allowed to do. If he wants to bin it in Valencia to protest his early season tire problems, I'd better not here any grumbling.

On a side note, this sounds like a Mladin interview. Is Mladin his uncle or something?

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mylexicon @ Sep 27 2008, 05:23 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Hyper critical when he's winning.

Hyper critical when he's losing.

Stoner can do whatever the hell he wants. He's the fastest man in motogp and he's just riding around in circles until he gets his wrist fixed for the 2009 season.

Isn't this exactly how you like Stoner---defeated? What's the problem?

I seem to remember Rossi packing it in at the end of last season. He didn't even bother to finish at Valencia. He just came in and handed 2nd to Pedrosa. The year before that he chucked it down the road with the title on the line.

Now that the governing body is back in his corner, Rossi is a great champ and Stoner is a defeated chump? Your life must be awful. I can't imagine getting worked up over Stoner's work ethic---this isn't politics, nobody has to vote him on to the bike. Who gives a damn, if he wanted to quit he could. He doesn't have to smile for the camera every lap. Unlike Rossi, Stoner is not on DORNA's payroll.

In 2003 Rossi had dyed hair, he wore rad shades with a backward cap, and he took swings at other riders. In 2004 he showed up with no earings, no shades or backward cap, and no hair dye, and a cleverly disguised salon quality hairdo. Tell me he wasn't put on the DORNA payroll to bring Yamaha back to life and put some drama in the championship chase.

Ezy has created a marketing monster.

Oh yeah, back to Stoner. He can do whatever Rossi is allowed to do. If he wants to bin it in Valencia to protest his early season tire problems, I'd better not here any grumbling.

On a side note, this sounds like a Mladin interview. Is Mladin his uncle or something?
How about you lex?
Hyper critical when Rossi is winning or losing
Oh, and my life is just great, even if Rossi didn't win. I have a beautiful wife and 2 years old kid that loves me.
And yes, I DO want Rossi wins and defeats everyone. This is sport and I think that's fair enough. I'm pretty sure you want Hayden defeats everyone too.
And your life must be awful with your conspiracy crap in your head everyday
...whatever you say lex...

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (#46 @ Sep 26 2008, 08:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>QUOTE
Asked if he hoped Rossi would clinch the title on Sunday in Japan rather than the 29-year-old claiming a sixth premier class world crown in front of Stoner’s home crowd in Australia next weekend, Stoner added: “I really don’t care. Each race is the same to me. We just enjoy some tracks more than others, but we have to do the same job every weekend.”

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...So he doesn't give a .... to all his fans who will come to see him in his home circuit? That's a shame...:
I'm glad he has Hayden to teach him a little bit next year...

He says he doesn't care where Rossi wins the title, he did not say he does not care about his fans. At this point Stoner wants to win races, since he can not win the title any more. And you bet he'll try to win the race at Phillip Island. And at Motegi as well...

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (J4rn0 @ Sep 27 2008, 06:05 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>He says he doesn't care where Rossi wins the title, he did not say he does not care about his fans. At this point Stoner wants to win races, since he can not win the title any more. And you bet he'll try to win the race at Phillip Island. And at Motegi as well...
I hope you're right. 'cos his fans deserve that. Ok sorry maybe I'm missing a bit of translation here...and yes he will be a serious contender to win the remaining races and still a hot fave for the title next year.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mylexicon @ Sep 26 2008, 11:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Hyper critical when he's winning.

Hyper critical when he's losing.

Exactly how you are about Rossi!

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mylexicon @ Sep 26 2008, 11:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Stoner can do whatever the hell he wants. He's the fastest man in motogp and he's just riding around in circles until he gets his wrist fixed for the 2009 season.

Isn't this exactly how you like Stoner---defeated? What's the problem?

Again; exactly how you like Rossi! What's your problem?

Well technically, on his race times over the last four races; Stoner isn't the "fastest man in motogp" in order to win you need to complete the race. It's not called "Fastest single lap of the track Championship" is it? He certainly wasn't the fastest at Indy in any case!

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mylexicon @ Sep 26 2008, 11:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I seem to remember Rossi packing it in at the end of last season. He didn't even bother to finish at Valencia. He just came in and handed 2nd to Pedrosa. The year before that he chucked it down the road with the title on the line.

Didn't the engine give up? Or are you so in with the "real" MotoGP that you are going to tell us that he in fact put it in neutral and gave second in the championship to Pedrobot? Yeah, right.

Some of your arguments actually sound plausible - and then you go and say things like that

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mylexicon @ Sep 26 2008, 11:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Now that the governing body is back in his corner, Rossi is a great champ and Stoner is a defeated chump? Your life must be awful. I can't imagine getting worked up over Stoner's work ethic---this isn't politics, nobody has to vote him on to the bike. Who gives a damn, if he wanted to quit he could. He doesn't have to smile for the camera every lap. Unlike Rossi, Stoner is not on DORNA's payroll.

And here it is folks - the old paranoid conspiracy theories are right back in it! You say you can't imagine getting worked up over Stoner's work ethic - yet you do with Rossi's! So if Dorna are now back in Rossi's corner - then were they in Hayden's when he won the title? Or Stoner's?

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mylexicon @ Sep 26 2008, 11:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>In 2003 Rossi had dyed hair, he wore rad shades with a backward cap, and he took swings at other riders. In 2004 he showed up with no earings, no shades or backward cap, and no hair dye, and a cleverly disguised salon quality hairdo. Tell me he wasn't put on the DORNA payroll to bring Yamaha back to life and put some drama in the championship chase.

Ezy has created a marketing monster.

Because no sportsman ever changed their image or haircut on their own have they!? If Dorna have half as much control over the results as you claim - they why didn't they take someone else to resurrect Yamaha - they could have used Marco, Gibernau, Max - who they liked and let's face it; all three of them are probably "cheaper" than Rossi!

If Rossi is important to Dorna as you claim then I doubt if they would care if he turned up in dungarees!

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mylexicon @ Sep 26 2008, 11:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Oh yeah, back to Stoner. He can do whatever Rossi is allowed to do. If he wants to bin it in Valencia to protest his early season tire problems, I'd better not here any grumbling.

On a side note, this sounds like a Mladin interview. Is Mladin his uncle or something?

If you hear grumbling - it's probably your own voice! Your as anti-Rossi as any of the Rossi fanboys (who you hate) are anti-Stoner

Let's just hope that Nicky can do something in the Duke next year so you'll have something to take your mind off Rossi winning! Mind you - I suppose if Nicky wins on the Duke then that will be all down to Dorna too???

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mylexicon @ Sep 26 2008, 10:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Hyper critical when he's winning.

Hyper critical when he's losing.

Stoner can do whatever the hell he wants. He's the fastest man in motogp and he's just riding around in circles until he gets his wrist fixed for the 2009 season.

Isn't this exactly how you like Stoner---defeated? What's the problem?

I seem to remember Rossi packing it in at the end of last season. He didn't even bother to finish at Valencia. He just came in and handed 2nd to Pedrosa. The year before that he chucked it down the road with the title on the line.

Now that the governing body is back in his corner, Rossi is a great champ and Stoner is a defeated chump? Your life must be awful. I can't imagine getting worked up over Stoner's work ethic---this isn't politics, nobody has to vote him on to the bike. Who gives a damn, if he wanted to quit he could. He doesn't have to smile for the camera every lap. Unlike Rossi, Stoner is not on DORNA's payroll.

In 2003 Rossi had dyed hair, he wore rad shades with a backward cap, and he took swings at other riders. In 2004 he showed up with no earings, no shades or backward cap, and no hair dye, and a cleverly disguised salon quality hairdo. Tell me he wasn't put on the DORNA payroll to bring Yamaha back to life and put some drama in the championship chase.

Ezy has created a marketing monster.

Oh yeah, back to Stoner. He can do whatever Rossi is allowed to do. If he wants to bin it in Valencia to protest his early season tire problems, I'd better not here any grumbling.

On a side note, this sounds like a Mladin interview. Is Mladin his uncle or something?


YOUR AWESOME MAN.....

Fxxcken Hell

Maybe he actually doesn't care where he loses the championship. He obviously cares about losing the championship overall quite a lot, but as he says he knows that he lost it some time ago really.

I wish we could get an age limit on the internet, say 25. Maybe that doesn't take into account IQ, I don't know.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (#46 @ Sep 27 2008, 04:44 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>QUOTE
Asked if he hoped Rossi would clinch the title on Sunday in Japan rather than the 29-year-old claiming a sixth premier class world crown in front of Stoner’s home crowd in Australia next weekend, Stoner added: “I really don’t care. Each race is the same to me. We just enjoy some tracks more than others, but we have to do the same job every weekend.”

LINK

...So he doesn't give a .... to all his fans who will come to see him in his home circuit? That's a shame...:
I'm glad he has Hayden to teach him a little bit next year...


Are you my wife by any chance? I started calling her number 46 this afternoon but she didn't get it. If somebody says something and one must interpret that as being the absolute most harmful, maleficent injurious thing ever said you must be female at the very least and giving your husband a hard time. Poor bloke, I pity him.

He said title or not the job is all the same (winning races). Casey has always taken the Doohan line of not caring about championships, winning races is first and championships look after themselves.

We actually had a debating series on TV in Australia (World Series Debating?) – great comedy and it’s where you should actually be judged for what you say. This is motorcycle racing and the job is winning races – you know – riding a muddaboike. You shouldn’t give up trying to win races even though the championship is lost. That’s a contrary but (more than) equally valid interpretation.

Perhaps you should let Casey (an Australian) speak to his fans (mostly Australians) without trying to interpret for us. I understand what he is saying, I think he has got the right attitude and you do a miserable job as an interpreter.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BlackKnight @ Sep 26 2008, 04:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Let's just hope that Nicky can do something in the Duke next year so you'll have something to take your mind off Rossi winning! Mind you - I suppose if Nicky wins on the Duke then that will be all down to Dorna too???

I'm not anti-Rossi. He's the greatest of the greatest. People have been dying to work with him b/c he an enormous talent and a great winner.

During 2006 and 2007 he had so many tantrums that he had exhausted his a lot of his clout in the paddock. He had a slow bike during both seasons and Michelin had decided they wanted to spend more time developing for Pedrosa and the 800cc formula.

It wasn't the first time he had experienced hardship, but it was the first time someone ever told him no (Bridgestone). He had a complete meltdown and started threatening Ezy. Unfortunately for everyone else in the paddock, Rossi didn't actually want to retire, he just wanted to force his rapid lap dog to make Bridgestone give him tires.

His episodes at the end of last season are hush-hush b/c people in the press know better than to take a swipe at the golden boy. You can't make a good living if you alienate the man who controls 50% of the fan base. You can't even ask him for an interview if you anger his political puppet.

The end of 2007 was just another challenge in his career and yet he fell to pieces probably b/c Stoner was horsewhipping him on the race track and Michelin were putting him out to pasture.

He wrote the final chapter in his career. The ending sucks and thanks to his stupid political wrangling the legitimacy of his achievement is in question.

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You're not joking, you are a .....

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Goatboy @ Sep 27 2008, 03:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>You're not joking, you are a .....
....... hell, some people get worked up over nothing. He puts his point of view out there, and rather than even trying to debate it, the name calling starts. You ok? Need your nappy changed?

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Son of Doohan @ Sep 27 2008, 06:16 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>....... hell, some people get worked up over nothing. He puts his point of view out there, and rather than even trying to debate it, the name calling starts. You ok? Need your nappy changed?Well it's obviously totally futile to try to talk to it, that much must be obvious. ....... debate that, don't make me laugh.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Goatboy @ Sep 27 2008, 03:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Well it's obviously totally futile to try to talk to it, that much must be obvious. ....... debate that, don't make me laugh.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mylexicon @ Sep 26 2008, 10:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Hyper critical when he's winning.

Hyper critical when he's losing.

Stoner can do whatever the hell he wants. He's the fastest man in motogp and he's just riding around in circles until he gets his wrist fixed for the 2009 season.

Isn't this exactly how you like Stoner---defeated? What's the problem?

I seem to remember Rossi packing it in at the end of last season. He didn't even bother to finish at Valencia. He just came in and handed 2nd to Pedrosa. The year before that he chucked it down the road with the title on the line.

Now that the governing body is back in his corner, Rossi is a great champ and Stoner is a defeated chump? Your life must be awful. I can't imagine getting worked up over Stoner's work ethic---this isn't politics, nobody has to vote him on to the bike. Who gives a damn, if he wanted to quit he could. He doesn't have to smile for the camera every lap. Unlike Rossi, Stoner is not on DORNA's payroll.

In 2003 Rossi had dyed hair, he wore rad shades with a backward cap, and he took swings at other riders. In 2004 he showed up with no earings, no shades or backward cap, and no hair dye, and a cleverly disguised salon quality hairdo. Tell me he wasn't put on the DORNA payroll to bring Yamaha back to life and put some drama in the championship chase.

Ezy has created a marketing monster.

Oh yeah, back to Stoner. He can do whatever Rossi is allowed to do. If he wants to bin it in Valencia to protest his early season tire problems, I'd better not here any grumbling.

On a side note, this sounds like a Mladin interview. Is Mladin his uncle or something?


I normally dont participate in these kind of discussions, but you are really past the line. Do you have to drag Rossi into any discussion? What is it in your brain that keeps you fixataed on him like this- it seems that you live your life thinking about Rossi every minute of the day. Very sad.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Goatboy @ Sep 26 2008, 10:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Well it's obviously totally futile to try to talk to it, that much must be obvious. ....... debate that, don't make me laugh.

I have the power to make you give up without a fight

You need to have a talk to Rossi about the proper way to play head games. Your hero would never cave in like that.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mylexicon @ Sep 27 2008, 07:11 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I have the power to make you give up without a fight

You need to have a talk to Rossi about the proper way to play head games. Your hero would never cave in like that. Way to prove a point.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Evolution @ Sep 26 2008, 11:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I normally dont participate in these kind of discussions, but you are really past the line. Do you have to drag Rossi into any discussion? What is it in your brain that keeps you fixataed on him like this- it seems that you live your life thinking about Rossi every minute of the day. Very sad.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Projection_bias

It doesn't look good, Evo. You might need to get some help.