Joined Oct 2008
6K Posts | 5K+
In Cider
You're then into the issue of why GP went back to 1000cc in the first place. Because corner speeds rise considerably.
I agree that modern 2/ would be fun.
You're then into the issue of why GP went back to 1000cc in the first place. Because corner speeds rise considerably.
I agree that modern 2/ would be fun.
There was a theory flying around that MotoGP transitioned to higher corner speeds because the 800s didn't have enough power to launch down the straights. This was disproven in the following seasons by the manufacturers revealing that they were running wheelie control. It was an imperfect indicator that the 800s were still achieving the same acceleration out of most corners.
The fuel regulations were a more likely culprit for the rising corner speeds. When a rider uses the brakes, he's converting kinetic energy into heat, which is just vented into the atmosphere. If fuel capacity is strictly limited at 21L, and later 20L, and the bikes are all struggling with wheelies, lateral acceleration is where you'll gain time.
MotoGP still had a tire war in 2007 and 2008. The control tire will be used, as it is currently, to contain lateral acceleration.
Future of MotoGP: Dall'Ignia Believes In Hybrid, KTM's Pierer says "Nonsense"
This is an interesting article for numerous reasons. First, it highlights the fierce battle between hybrid-electrification and carbon-neutral biofuels. Second, it demonstrates that MotoGP teams are indeed toying with the possibility of hybrid propulsion for MotoGP, which is particularly interesting because the new chairman of the MSMA, Biense Bierma, is an expert in procuring electric drive and hybrid propulsion components. Third, it highlights the growing schism within the MSMA between the Italians, particularly Ducati, and the Austrian-German contingent at KTM. The former seeming to support literally any new toy, while the latter seem to be traditionalists who are also constrained by budget. Finally, it indirectly highlights the battle between engineers, who generally lean towards drop-in carbon neutral biofuels, and regulators who lean towards electrification.
To be honest, I'm surprised that Ducati support hybrid propulsion, since it generally requires compact engine configurations. Ducati's L-layout DNA doesn't seem to mesh well with hybrid power-units. Perhaps Dall'Ignia is merely revealing that he (and others in Ducati?) believe that regulators will prevail over engineers, and hybrid/electric propulsion will be required in the developed world. Or perhaps they believe that hybrid propulsion is independent of biofuels, since hybrids can be used regardless of whether the fuel source is carbon-neutral.
Yet another highly-nuanced techno-political landscape for MotoGP to navigate. Personally, I don't think MotoGP should take the bait, and evaluate the bikes based upon miles per gallon or CO2 per kilometer. MotoGP is an entertainment property. They should be looking at ontrack CO2 emissions per dollar revenue. Many different ways to alter that equation.
This is an interesting article for numerous reasons. First, it highlights the fierce battle between hybrid-electrification and carbon-neutral biofuels. Second, it demonstrates that MotoGP teams are indeed toying with the possibility of hybrid propulsion for MotoGP, which is particularly interesting because the new chairman of the MSMA, Biense Bierma, is an expert in procuring electric drive and hybrid propulsion components. Third, it highlights the growing schism within the MSMA between the Italians, particularly Ducati, and the Austrian-German contingent at KTM. The former seeming to support literally any new toy, while the latter seem to be traditionalists who are also constrained by budget. Finally, it indirectly highlights the battle between engineers, who generally lean towards drop-in carbon neutral biofuels, and regulators who lean towards electrification.
To be honest, I'm surprised that Ducati support hybrid propulsion, since it generally requires compact engine configurations. Ducati's L-layout DNA doesn't seem to mesh well with hybrid power-units. Perhaps Dall'Ignia is merely revealing that he (and others in Ducati?) believe that regulators will prevail over engineers, and hybrid/electric propulsion will be required in the developed world. Or perhaps they believe that hybrid propulsion is independent of biofuels, since hybrids can be used regardless of whether the fuel source is carbon-neutral.
Yet another highly-nuanced techno-political landscape for MotoGP to navigate. Personally, I don't think MotoGP should take the bait, and evaluate the bikes based upon miles per gallon or CO2 per kilometer. MotoGP is an entertainment property. They should be looking at ontrack CO2 emissions per dollar revenue. Many different ways to alter that equation.
Hybrid Kawasakis Spotted at Suzuka
Apparently Kawasaki had a demonstration of new technologies at the Suzuka 8 hour, and one of the bikes was a hybrid powertrain. Interesting development to consider.
Apparently Kawasaki had a demonstration of new technologies at the Suzuka 8 hour, and one of the bikes was a hybrid powertrain. Interesting development to consider.
Joined Aug 2008
6K Posts | 748+
Thailand
Well, it is decided. From Krops.
"MotoGP gets 45-minute and 60-minute sessions of timed practice on Friday, which will determine entry into Q2. Then a 30-minute session of untimed practice on Saturday morning, to replace FP4. Directly after, from 10:50 to 11:30 there is Q1 and then Q2, to determine the grid. And at 3pm on Saturday, a half-distance Sprint race, where the bikes get 12 liters of fuel instead of 22.
From 9:40 on Sunday morning, MotoGP riders get 10 minutes of warm up."
"MotoGP gets 45-minute and 60-minute sessions of timed practice on Friday, which will determine entry into Q2. Then a 30-minute session of untimed practice on Saturday morning, to replace FP4. Directly after, from 10:50 to 11:30 there is Q1 and then Q2, to determine the grid. And at 3pm on Saturday, a half-distance Sprint race, where the bikes get 12 liters of fuel instead of 22.
From 9:40 on Sunday morning, MotoGP riders get 10 minutes of warm up."
Joined Mar 2016
2K Posts | 2K+
FNQ
Be better if there was no fuel limit for the sprint race. Let them turn em right up and let loose.
