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the end of KR Proton KTM

I agree Drill. Going to WSB for shakey wouldnt be a bad thing, it is very competitive and he would get some much deserved success and attention. Its as if he blew away the opposition in BSB '03 and now it seems like people are forgetting him. I would respect him for holding out in motogp but also if he went to WSB or even back to the ultra competitive BSB.

Big up Shakey
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Mladin is not going anywhere. He's gonna stay where he has a great team and bike and knows the tracks well. He doesn;t take losing too well, so don;t expect him to finish his career outside the AMA. He will be a 7 or 8 time champ by the time he retires.

Personally, he's making the AMA a snoozefest and i hope Ben Spies catches him at VIR and edges him out for the championship.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GeNeRaL @ Aug 16 2005, 12:41 PM)<div class='quotemain'>Mladin is not going anywhere.  He's gonna stay where he has a great team and bike and knows the tracks well.  He doesn;t take losing too well, so don;t expect him to finish his career outside the AMA.  He will be a 7 or 8 time champ by the time he retires. 

Personally, he's making the AMA a snoozefest and i hope Ben Spies catches him at VIR and edges him out for the championship.
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Thats a shame General,Mladin is used to chuckin the big ones around now.He would have a half decent chance possibly?
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He would definately have a chance, but he won't take the risk. he'd rather stay where he is the big fish in the small pond.
 
Agreed, it certainly appears he likes the format of big fish in a small pond versus the other way 'round as it would be if he were to jump to a world championship series.
 
GeNeRaL is right. suzuki don't need him in wsbk. motogp won't have him, i can here him pissin about the gsvr now.
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so he'll stay right were he is & dominate. unless honda , ducati and hopefully yamaha & kawasaki ( they've got to get thier ..... in sbk not superstock ; damned ama class structure!!!!! ) do something. there is plenty of talent in the series. i'm sure neil hodgson , eric bostrom , ben spies, the hayden bros, miguel, jake could run with & beat matt given properly backed factory equipment. no hrc no yamaha no kawasaki. only ducati & i'm sure thats not the support they get in wsbk. so it can't stay the way it is & i doubt it will.
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TeamKR's press release, in responce to KTM's:

Simultaneously with the public on August 12th, KTM informed its partner, Team Roberts, through a press release that it is going to cancel all its activities in relation to the current racing season in the MotoGP series.

KTM thereby is in breach with its initial commitment to participate through Team Roberts in the 2005 racing season. In contrast to KTM's recent press release, in which it sought to present itself merely as an engine supplier, the cooperation between KTM and Team Roberts was supposed to be a partnership on equal footage. KTM not only undertook to contribute the engines, electronics, tires and the costs for the team rider, but also committed to share the responsibility for the funding of the team's budget for the racing season 2005. This budget was arrived at and agreed upon be-tween KTM and Team Roberts representatives in early February.

There were no additional requests for funding by Team Roberts over and above the original agreed upon amounts, only requests for on-schedule payments that were never received.

Team Roberts has acted honourably and in good faith to fulfill the obligations that were agreed with KTM. Team Roberts would not begin a project such as this without funding in place to complete the obligations to Dorna and our other sponsors for the entire season.

Both parties were perfectly aware that a participation of Team Roberts in the 2005 racing season would not have been a viable option without KTM's technical support and funding. In reliance on KTM's commitment as a strong and equal team partner, Team Roberts decided to engage in the racing season 2005.

At first, KTM effectively announced its cooperation and "the agreement reached" with Team Roberts. In fact, KTM also put considerable effort in this cooperation with Team Roberts in the current racing season. However, contrary to the other racing series, in which KTM participates, the expected success in the MotoGP series did not materialize.

Against this background and due to internal strategic business decisions and alterna-tive allocation of resources as announced by KTM in its recent press release, KTM decided to pull out of the cooperation with Team Roberts in the middle of the current racing season and to disregard its commitments with Team Roberts.

As KTM has not only failed to deliver competitive engines in the current racing sea-son, they have also failed to live up to their funding responsibilities and choose to breach their commitment to supply engines, electronics, tires and a rider to Team Roberts 2005 MotoGP efforts.

As we celebrate our 20th season of participation in motorcycle racings' premier category, Team Roberts will continue to assist in the professionalism and development of our sport. We are passionate about MotoGP and although our success during the past few years has been mixed and our views not always agreed, we have tried to succeed in a way which we believe may benefit the sport in the future, and we have committed 110% to our goals.

Obviously the departure of KTM creates severe problems for us and we will address the situation with our best efforts to continue in the championship.

We would like to thank all of our fans and motorcycle industry colleagues who have expressed support to us and encourage our continued participation. We also want to thank our suppliers and colleagues, who have been extremely patient in light of our current circumstances.

See you in Brno!
 
KR has got 1 unit of the V5 bike in his headquarters, I don't know if they've how many V4s have they got (if any). It looks bad for KR.
I guess they'll have to use the V5 or even the old V3 2 stroke to make it to all the races left.
 
I thought they had been banned, but perhaps that is going to take place for 2007. I know for sure at that point they will be banned but I thought I remember hearing something about them being banned starting in 2004.

I believe KR has two KR5 machines, one was to be auctioned off but didn't meet it's reserve so it will most likely be the second bike. Jeremy McWilliams is on standby and says he would love to ride it again if he has the chance. I'm assuming there may be contractual conflicts with him riding the KR5 machine and being contracted by Honda. If he doesn't ride it I don't know who will, to my knowledge both AMA and BSB have rounds this weekend, that right?

Also to be noted, Shakey will be at Brno to "explore other options", whatever that means.
 
ama at vir this weekend. not sure about bsb. i don't think they have a race this weekend
 
According to the report from www.crash.net McWilliams is quoted as saying "I will not be riding in the Bennetts Superbike round at Cadwell on Monday and so I'd love to ride at Brno if I get the chance...". So I'm assuming he is talking about this coming weekend which would rule out any BSB riders other than himself riding the KR5 as well as any AMA riders as they will br racing at VIR. That leaves WSB riders as the only alternative should McWilliams run into contractual obligations.

Some may think Shakey would be a possible rider but the way this thing has gone down and the way it looks to continue going it would be a cold day in hell before KTM let their rider race for Team KR while under contract.
 
KR gets a motor maker!

http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2005/Aug/050823a.htm

Satire By Ohlin: Team Roberts Embrace BS
and with bs, we mean briggs & stratton
by ohlin metzler
Tuesday, August 23, 2005
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

CONTACT: The Lawnmower Man (800) CUT-THIS

CRANKPIN, WISCONSIN (VPI) Ah, the fortunes of genius-icons are amazing to watch, especially when they hit life's chicanes. King Kenny Roberts is a great example of a legend that has had to fight many weird bits of business voodoo to stay afloat, unlike the days when he just used to jump on a motorcycle and beat everybody like a rented mule. Back when he ran a Yamaha team and had Wayne Rainey in his stable, all was pretty much sweetness and light when it came to having GP bikes with motors in them (a necessary requirement for a getting a good start).

But once Roberts went all Wildcat on us by creating his own team and motorsickle to race with, the road to winning got all curvy and stuff. He's had a bunch of different bits and pieces in the engine room over the years, and it looked like KTM was going to build him a badass motor this year.

But nooooooooo.

Here's what has happened so far, sort of. When Roberts left Yamaha and created his new Teams Roberts based in a land where the rain is cold and the beer warm, he decided to cobble together his own moto including the motor itsownself. It was a three cylinder V, or W, or L, or some damn thing. Cool,though, and gutsy. Little dude in a little shop, taking on the Big Boys with their massive R&D departments and hi-tech pencil sets. Roberts had a small contingent of incredibly talented Ooopah Loompah engineers, who built the engine and everything else. A fly on the wall (with a Cockney accent of course) told me they used to sing this song:

Ooompah Loompah Doobadee-Doo,
We have a Lovely Two-Stroke for You.
It will have the Power to Pass,
Show-ing the Fac-tories the crack of Your ....

There's more, but a flattened the fly with my fist. I hate singing insects, man. No, really. Especially cicadas.

Don't get me started on those .......s.

Anyways, Roberts actually saw his K3 beast on pole towards the end of the Two-Stroke era, which is amazing when you think about it. But avoid thinking about it too much, because we live in age where thinking is frowned upon. Just move along, mentally. Nothing to see here.

As rules changed the motor did too, of course. This smoky 3 begot a kickass smokeless V5, a Four-Stroke of the team's making. I say kickass, but it wasn't really getting it done. At all. Sucked, I think the pit boys say. So for the year 2005, Roberts struck a deal with KTM to build him a V4 Four Stoker, and here's where things get more Grimm and even less Fairy Tale.

As you know, the Roberts Team (known as Team Roberts) has not been winning this year. And now KTM has pulled out, leaving the team in the lurch a bit. A lot more than a bit, to be honest. This is a Bigtime Lurch-Leaving, even bigger than the Adam's family's trusted butler departing the Estate with a rocket belt. You dig, Hombre?

There are lessons here:

A) Always build your own motor, if you're Kenny

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Always have an odd number of cylinders, if you're Kenny

C) If you break rule
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, there will be Bigtime Lurch-Leaving.

D) Oh, and do you honestly think that if you screw around Don Vito Roberts you ain't gonna find a T. Rex head in your bed one day?

Sheesh.

So what's a King to do?

Being a man of his county, a patriot if you will, you look to your homeland for motorage. That's what you do, if you're Kenny.

And how do I know he did this? Oh, we have sources. Lots of 'em, in fact. This is Soup, and here you will find a steaming cauldron that has many, many ingredients and spices and stuff. And our top-secret part-time operative and automotive claims adjuster Morf Kenford has been poking and prodding, you know, the way he does.

And he has Found Something.

Here's the deal: Kenny Roberts has indeed come home for Motivation. In this case, he has a famous US engine builder banging gaily away in the shop, making his new MotoGP masterpiece. And when you see the new bike, you'll know what I'm talking about. This is a ride powered by pure, Grade "A" Made in the U.S.A. BS. I mean, this engine is, like no other engine in racing, total and complete BS from the oil pan to the spark plugs.

BS, man. You know. Briggs and Stratton.

"The choice of Briggs is brilliant, really," explained our man Morf from an auto body shop somewhere in Middle America. "These guys make lightweight, reliable Four-Strokes and the things just run and run with a minimum of care. They can whip together a V4, V5, or Big-... single with an Industrial Air Filter with Pre-Cleaner, no problem. They can even put the Roberts logo that air cleaner for a modest fee, man. A very modest fee. It will be one bitchin' mill, and (chuckles) mow down the competition. Sorry. I had to say that."

I'm sorry, too. I'm sorry I had to fire his ..., and put a T.Rex head in his camper bunk for that comment. But hey, we have our standards. No, really.

We Do.

And so does King Kenny, and his new GP sensation that sounds like the gardener's favorite tool may just be the thing that will git Er Done, as those that favor American made BS in all its glory are known to say. And hey, this hot new mill won't even need that damn Pit Starter, for young Shane Byrne can pull the starter rope himself or have Kenny do it (which would be kind of classy).

Imagine that. Gettin' a tug from the Boss before you lay waste to the competition.

We are truly entering a brave new era. Before, a Briggs and Stratton engine would just be used to start the damn V5, or possible power the mechanics' blender. Now, it has the whole team's success riding on its inexpensive little lawn care technology. Shoot, it just might bring victory, too.

Hey, think I'm kidding?

Ha. Go to www.briggsracing.com and see for yourself. The company has been preparing for this, and soon they will no longer be known for Pit Starters but the makers of Kenny's Rototiller from hell.

Plow on, my Liege.
 
Julian Ryder just reported on www.superbikeplanet.com that the KTM boys have shown up at Brno with powerplants to fit into the KR machine. I've no idea what any of this means as I am very confused myself. Read the article.
 
It seems KTM and Roberts are still in talks about their joint bussiness.

The part that really confused me is the Michelin tires, Michelin tires cost a lot of money (which I thought was something KR didn't have). And Dunlops are free !

The bike will suck on both tire options, so I don't know why are they doing that.
 

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