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povol

povol

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Many questions to be answered, but this is one that makes absolutely no sense


 


The Sepang test is also the first chance to get a proper look at the

Open class. Two bikes appeal most to the imagination. The Yamaha FTR to

be raced by Colin Edwards and Aleix Espargaro in the NGM Forward team

will provide an interesting comparison of the differences between the

Open and Factory Option categories. A 2013-spec satellite Yamaha engine

and chassis, in bodywork and other parts produced by Moto2 and Moto3

chassis builder FTR, the bike should benefit most from the extra fuel

the Open class is allowed, compensating for Yamaha's traditional weak

point. There will be no need to dial back the power – other than saving

engine life, as the package being offered by Yamaha consists of just 5

engines, not the 12 allowed under the rules – and so the bike should be

able to maintain its speed throughout the race.


 


Why on earth would you choose the basic Dorna ECU as an Open class competitor, and have only 5 engines to work with. Seems like it would make the extra fuel meaningless. I guess you could use the extra liters of fuel to dump through the engine to keep it cooler, in turn increasing reliability.


 


 http://www.motomatters.com/analysis/2014/02/03/2014_sepang_1_test_preview_honda_vs_yama.html
 
 


Probably has something to do with Dorna's insistence that only so much can be charged for a package.  Also Yamaha don't want an Open Team package pushing satellite bikes for places on the track.  Would make it hard to sell a satellite package.  Yamaha would know how much potential the engine has if it wasn't being so starved off fuel.
 
Only five engines? I wonder if Honda has put a similar type of restriction on the RCV1000R package.


 


Edit: on a side note, I'm glad the season is finally starting for real, even if it's only testing. This has been a painfully dull offseason.
 
The test is underway !!  is there suppose to be a live feed ?
<ul>[]<span style="margin:0px;background-color:transparent;text-align:right;Po.<span style="margin:0px;background-color:transparent; Name<span style="margin:0px;background-color:transparent; Team<span style="margin:0px;background-color:transparent;text-align:right;Gap First
[]<span style="margin:0px;background-color:transparent;text-align:right;1<span style="margin:0px;background-color:transparent;PEDROSA D.<span style="margin:0px;background-color:transparent;Repsol Honda Team<span style="margin:0px;background-color:transparent;text-align:right;2:02.641
[]<span style="margin:0px;background-color:transparent;text-align:right;2<span style="margin:0px;background-color:transparent;ROSSI V.<span style="margin:0px;background-color:transparent;Yamaha Factory Racing<span style="margin:0px;background-color:transparent;text-align:right;+0.599
[]<span style="margin:0px;background-color:transparent;text-align:right;3<span style="margin:0px;background-color:transparent;NAKASUGA K.<span style="margin:0px;background-color:transparent;Yamaha Factory Test Team<span style="margin:0px;background-color:transparent;text-align:right;+1.326
[]<span style="margin:0px;background-color:transparent;text-align:right;4<span style="margin:0px;background-color:transparent;PIRRO M.<span style="margin:0px;background-color:transparent;Ducati Test Team<span style="margin:0px;background-color:transparent;text-align:right;+1.749
[]<span style="margin:0px;background-color:transparent;text-align:right;5<span style="margin:0px;background-color:transparent;SMITH B.<span style="margin:0px;background-color:transparent;Monster Yamaha Tech 3<span style="margin:0px;background-color:transparent;text-align:right;+2.186
[]<span style="margin:0px;background-color:transparent;text-align:right;6<span style="margin:0px;background-color:transparent;HERNANDEZ Y.<span style="margin:0px;background-color:transparent;Pramac Racing<span style="margin:0px;background-color:transparent;text-align:right;+2.567
[]<span style="margin:0px;background-color:transparent;text-align:right;7<span style="margin:0px;background-color:transparent;AKIYOSHI K.<span style="margin:0px;background-color:transparent;HRC Test Team<span style="margin:0px;background-color:transparent;text-align:right;+2.679
[]<span style="margin:0px;background-color:transparent;text-align:right;8<span style="margin:0px;background-color:transparent;BARBERA H.<span style="margin:0px;background-color:transparent;Avintia Racing<span style="margin:0px;background-color:transparent;text-align:right;+4.380
[]<span style="margin:0px;background-color:transparent;text-align:right;9<span style="margin:0px;background-color:transparent;DE PUNIET R.<span style="margin:0px;background-color:transparent;Suzuki Test Team<span style="margin:0px;background-color:transparent;text-align:right;+5.945
[]<span style="margin:0px;background-color:transparent;text-align:right;10<span style="margin:0px;background-color:transparent;ESPARGARO P.<span style="margin:0px;background-color:transparent;Monster Yamaha Tech 3<span style="margin:0px;background-color:transparent;text-align:right;+6.091
[]<span style="margin:0px;background-color:transparent;text-align:right;11<span style="margin:0px;background-color:transparent;REDDING S.<span style="margin:0px;background-color:transparent;GO&FUN Honda Gresini<span style="margin:0px;background-color:transparent;text-align:right;+6.930
[]<span style="margin:0px;background-color:transparent;text-align:right;12<span style="margin:0px;background-color:transparent;ABRAHAM K.<span style="margin:0px;background-color:transparent;Cardion AB Motoracing<span style="margin:0px;background-color:transparent;text-align:right;+13.528
[]<span style="margin:0px;background-color:transparent;text-align:right;13<span style="margin:0px;background-color:transparent;DI MEGLIO M.<span style="margin:0px;background-color:transparent;Avintia Racing<span style="margin:0px;background-color:transparent;text-align:right;+
[/list]
 
<ul>[]Po. Name TeamGap First
[]1ROSSI V.Yamaha Factory Racing2:01.121
[]2MARQUEZ M.Repsol Honda Team+0.245
[]3ESPARGARO A.NGM Mobile Forward Racing+0.298
[]4PEDROSA D.Repsol Honda Team+0.393
[]5LORENZO J.Yamaha Factory Racing+0.635
[]6SMITH B.Monster Yamaha Tech 3+0.818
[]7ESPARGARO P.Monster Yamaha Tech 3+0.891
[]8BRADL S.LCR Honda MotoGP+1.118
[]9IANNONE A.Pramac Racing+1.576
[]10DOVIZIOSO A.Ducati Team+1.623
[]11BAUTISTA A.GO&FUN Honda Gresini+1.649
[]12CRUTCHLOW C.Ducati Team+1.739
[]13NAKASUGA K.Yamaha Factory Test Team+2.005
[/list]

Look at A. Espargaro , already 1.2 seconds faster than his last years best time at Sepang test.
 
<ul>[]Po. Name TeamGap First
[]1MARQUEZ M.Repsol Honda Team2:00.767
[]2ROSSI V.Yamaha Factory Racing+0.354
[]3ESPARGARO A.NGM Mobile Forward Racing+0.652
[]4PEDROSA D.Repsol Honda Team+0.747
[]5LORENZO J.Yamaha Factory Racing+0.989
[]6SMITH B.Monster Yamaha Tech 3+1.172
[]7ESPARGARO P.Monster Yamaha Tech 3+1.245
[]8BRADL S.LCR Honda MotoGP+1.472
[]9IANNONE A.Pramac Racing+1.930
[]10DOVIZIOSO A.Ducati Team+1.977
[]11BAUTISTA A.GO&FUN Honda Gresini+2.003
[]12CRUTCHLOW C.Ducati Team+2.093
[]13HERNANDEZ Y.Pramac Racing+2.124
[/list]
 
<ul>[]Po. Name TeamGap First
[]1MARQUEZ M.Repsol Honda Team2:00.767
[]2LORENZO J.Yamaha Factory Racing+0.315
[]3ROSSI V.Yamaha Factory Racing+0.354
[]4BRADL S.LCR Honda MotoGP+0.553
[]5ESPARGARO A.NGM Mobile Forward Racing+0.652
[]6PEDROSA D.Repsol Honda Team+0.747
[]7SMITH B.Monster Yamaha Tech 3+1.172
[]8ESPARGARO P.Monster Yamaha Tech 3+1.245
[]9BAUTISTA A.GO&FUN Honda Gresini+1.768
[]10IANNONE A.Pramac Racing+1.930
[]11DOVIZIOSO A.Ducati Team+1.977
[]12CRUTCHLOW C.Ducati Team+2.093
[]13HERNANDEZ Y.Pramac Racing+2.124
[/list]
 
hawkdriver
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Nicky and his supposedly well sorted RCV are really kicking ... out there.
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Where the .... is theinsider to regale us on the virtues of the RCV1000R? Its a HONDA and fully sorted, don'tcha know!! Nicky will be riding for podiums, remember...
 
Go Randy!!  There's only one thing folk like more than an Aussie ....... and thats a french-aussie!!


 


 


 
Mick D
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Where

the .... is theinsider to regale us on the virtues of the RCV1000R? Its

a HONDA and fully sorted, don'tcha know!! Nicky will be riding for

podiums, remember...
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Well at least he didn't get on here doing nothing but bitching at other members :rolleyes:


 


Mick ........ don't be the new Reg. :lol: :lol: :lol:
 
Mick D
3709831391502150

Where the .... is theinsider to regale us on the virtues of the RCV1000R? Its a HONDA and fully sorted, don'tcha know!! Nicky will be riding for podiums, remember...
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I think INSIDER might have been another Nicky FanBoy forum member's sock puppet..... ;)


 


The Prody honda looks like a waste of time and money.....in other words Honda only works with Honda ECU and none other....3 seconds off the lead time....LOL.....


 


Rossi seems to be keeping pace with MM and JLo......
 
BarryMachine
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Go Randy!!  There's only one thing folk like more than an Aussie ....... and thats a french-aussie!!


 


 


 


 


Well at least he didn't get on here doing nothing but bitching at other members :rolleyes:


 


Mick ........ don't be the new Reg. :lol: :lol: :lol:
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meh... he set himself up for ridicule by maintaining his 'inside knowledge' and outright denial of any need to wait until the rubber touched the tarmac before declaring the bike a success.


 


and not to worry I'll not become the 'new' anyone... just continue as the same old me.


 


@migs - i think there are a lot less 'sock-puppents' and more 'just-plain-'tards' out there than you think!!
 
Day 1 - Final


 


<span style="color:rgb(58,59,62);font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;1.    Marc Marquez    <span style="color:rgb(58,59,62);font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;ESP    Repsol Honda Team (RC213V)    2m    0.286s    <span style="color:rgb(58,59,62);font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;(Lap 52/62)
<span style="color:rgb(58,59,62);font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;2.    Valentino Rossi    <span style="color:rgb(58,59,62);font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;ITA    Yamaha Factory Racing (YZR-M1)    2m    0.804s    |    +0.518s<span style="color:rgb(58,59,62);font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;    (58/61)
<span style="color:rgb(58,59,62);font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;3.    Dani Pedrosa    <span style="color:rgb(58,59,62);font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;ESP    Repsol Honda Team (RC213V)    2m    0.906s    |    +0.620s<span style="color:rgb(58,59,62);font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;    (73/75)
<span style="color:rgb(58,59,62);font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;4.    Jorge Lorenzo    <span style="color:rgb(58,59,62);font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;ESP    Yamaha Factory Racing (YZR-M1)    2m    1.082s    |    +0.796s<span style="color:rgb(58,59,62);font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;    (26/47)
<span style="color:rgb(58,59,62);font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;5.    Alvaro Bautista    <span style="color:rgb(58,59,62);font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;ESP    Go&Fun Honda Gresini (RC213V)    2m    1.240s    |    +0.954s<span style="color:rgb(58,59,62);font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;    (48/52)
<span style="color:rgb(58,59,62);font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;6.    Stefan Bradl    <span style="color:rgb(58,59,62);font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;GER    LCR Honda MotoGP (RC213V)    2m    1.320s    |    +1.034s<span style="color:rgb(58,59,62);font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;    (10/25)
<span style="color:rgb(58,59,62);font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;7.    Aleix Espargaro    <span style="color:rgb(58,59,62);font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;ESP    NGM Mobile Forward Racing (FTR-M1)    2m    1.419s    |    +1.133s<span style="color:rgb(58,59,62);font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;    (19/26)
<span style="color:rgb(58,59,62);font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;8.    Andrea Iannone    <span style="color:rgb(58,59,62);font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;ITA    Pramac Racing (Desmosedici)    2m    1.538s    |    +1.252s<span style="color:rgb(58,59,62);font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;    (38/44)
<span style="color:rgb(58,59,62);font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;9.    Pol Espargaro    <span style="color:rgb(58,59,62);font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;ESP    Monster Yamaha Tech 3 (YZR-M1)    2m    1.634s    |    +1.348s<span style="color:rgb(58,59,62);font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;    (42/48)
<span style="color:rgb(58,59,62);font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;10.    Bradley Smith    <span style="color:rgb(58,59,62);font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;GBR    Monster Yamaha Tech 3 (YZR-M1)    2m    1.876s    |    +1.590s<span style="color:rgb(58,59,62);font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;    (54/55)
<span style="color:rgb(58,59,62);font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;11.    Colin Edwards    <span style="color:rgb(58,59,62);font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;USA    NGM Mobile Forward Racing (FTR-M1)    2m    2.483s    |    +2.197s<span style="color:rgb(58,59,62);font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;    (25/26)
<span style="color:rgb(58,59,62);font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;12.    Andrea Dovizioso    <span style="color:rgb(58,59,62);font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;ITA    Ducati Team (Desmosedici)    2m    2.497s    |    +2.211s<span style="color:rgb(58,59,62);font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;    (21/27)
<span style="color:rgb(58,59,62);font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;13.    Michele Pirro    <span style="color:rgb(58,59,62);font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;ITA    Ducati Test Rider (Desmosedici)    2m    2.552s    |    +2.266s<span style="color:rgb(58,59,62);font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;    (47/48)
<span style="color:rgb(58,59,62);font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;14.    Cal Crutchlow    <span style="color:rgb(58,59,62);font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;GBR    Ducati Team (Desmosedici)    2m    2.860s    |    +2.574s<span style="color:rgb(58,59,62);font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;    (16/38)
<span style="color:rgb(58,59,62);font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;15.    Yonny Hernandez    <span style="color:rgb(58,59,62);font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;COL    Pramac Racing (Desmosedici)    2m    2.891s    |    +2.605s<span style="color:rgb(58,59,62);font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;    (28/49)
<span style="color:rgb(58,59,62);font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;16.    Katsuyuki Nakasuga    <span style="color:rgb(58,59,62);font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;JPN    Yamaha Test Rider (YZR-M1)    2m    3.126s    |    +2.840s<span style="color:rgb(58,59,62);font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;    (14/35)
<span style="color:rgb(58,59,62);font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;17.    Nicky Hayden    <span style="color:rgb(58,59,62);font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;USA    Drive M7 Aspar (RCV1000R)    2m    3.319s    |    +3.033s<span style="color:rgb(58,59,62);font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;    (53/56)
<span style="color:rgb(58,59,62);font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;18.    Hiroshi Aoyama    <span style="color:rgb(58,59,62);font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;JPN    Drive M7 Aspar (RCV1000R)    2m    3.328s    |    +3.042s<span style="color:rgb(58,59,62);font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;    (49/51)
<span style="color:rgb(58,59,62);font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;19.    Randy de Puniet    <span style="color:rgb(58,59,62);font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;FRA    Suzuki Test Rider (XRH-1)    2m    3.893s    |    +3.607s<span style="color:rgb(58,59,62);font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;    (47/75)
<span style="color:rgb(58,59,62);font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;20.    Kosuke Akiyoshi    <span style="color:rgb(58,59,62);font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;JPN    Honda Test Rider    2m    4.267s    |    +3.981s<span style="color:rgb(58,59,62);font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;    (27/64)
<span style="color:rgb(58,59,62);font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;21.    Scott Redding    <span style="color:rgb(58,59,62);font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;GBR    Go&Fun Honda Gresini (RCV1000R)    2m    4.431s    |    +4.145s<span style="color:rgb(58,59,62);font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;    (41/48)
<span style="color:rgb(58,59,62);font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;22.    Hector Barbera    <span style="color:rgb(58,59,62);font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;ESP    Avintia Blusens (FTR-Kawasaki)    2m    4.922s    |    +4.636s<span style="color:rgb(58,59,62);font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;    (34/44)
<span style="color:rgb(58,59,62);font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;23.    Mike di Meglio    <span style="color:rgb(58,59,62);font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;FRA    Avintia Blusens (FTR-Kawasaki)    2m    5.825s    |    +5.539s<span style="color:rgb(58,59,62);font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;    (50/51)
<span style="color:rgb(58,59,62);font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;24.    Broc Parkes    <span style="color:rgb(58,59,62);font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;AUS    Paul Bird Motorsport (PBM-ART)    2m    5.889s    |    +5.603s<span style="color:rgb(58,59,62);font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;    (32/40)
<span style="color:rgb(58,59,62);font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;25.    Michael Laverty    <span style="color:rgb(58,59,62);font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;GBR    Paul Bird Motorsport (PBM-ART)    2m    6.070s    |    +5.784s<span style="color:rgb(58,59,62);font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;    (14/14)
<span style="color:rgb(58,59,62);font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;26.    Karel Abraham    <span style="color:rgb(58,59,62);font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;CZE    Cardion AB Motoracing (RCV1000R)    2m    6.755s    |    +6.469s<span style="color:rgb(58,59,62);font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;    (21/41)
 
MM - As expected
VR - Good day, bodes well
DP - As expected
JL - Should be where your team mate is or closer
AB + SB - As expected
AE - ....... amazing
AI - Fastest Duc a Pramac!
PE - Faster than your sophomore team mate, well done!
BS - Pull yer socks up
CE - Prod Yammie looks GOOD. Collie should have a big ole Texas grin!
AD + CC - Sorry fellas, your gonna be behind proddy's - unless you become proddy's - ....... Ducati!
NH - WSBK's looking good now!
RdP - Zook's got work ahead
SR - Battle it out with Nicky!
 
All in all good day for the ol man Rossi....


 


Yamaha have got something right all around it seems....


 


Honda proddy is a joke....


 


Hayden is not only wishing he'd gone to WSBK, but possibly even taken the Aprilia option.. eitherway his 2014 performance will not fail to amuse me.....
 
Ducati looking.good in the hands of Iannone - unexpected, to say the least. interestingly, he was much faster than the two other factory Ducs, which were in turn about the same pace as Hernandez on the open bike. Any info on if they were all ridinv their 'official' bikes or already switching between factory and open?

Honda proddy looks worrysome when compared to the FTR-Yamaha. I guess HRC will adjust some screws in order to close this gap. Though A. Espargaro is lookkng frightening..

Tech3 looking a bit slower than anticipated, though ut's puzzeling to me who is riding which version of the M1 and what this has to say.

Nothing too special around the old HRC and Yamaha fac&sat boys, same as with the FTR-Kawa and PBM dudes.

Can't wait for more..
 
MigsAngel
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I think INSIDER might have been another Nicky FanBoy forum member's sock puppet..... ;)


 


The Prody honda looks like a waste of time and money.....in other words Honda only works with Honda ECU and none other....3 seconds off the lead time....LOL.....


 


Rossi seems to be keeping pace with   JLo......
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 Fixed it for ya :D


Marquez is a full second ahead of last years day one test times, and within a 1/10 of the top time on day 3.
 

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