A man has every right to choose his name. I'm not saying that fundamentals of religion are right but he certainly has the right to call himself whatever he likes. The things the man did should be good enough for you to at least respect that.
A man has every right to choose his name. I'm not saying that fundamentals of religion are right but he certainly has the right to call himself whatever he likes. The things the man did should be good enough for you to at least respect that.
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Actually I was just winding you up for ..... and giggles since you had to go ad hominem before. Enjoy.
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Anyone know where I can get one of those Ducati team polo shirts? All I can find is branded "29" or "04" ...., but not the official team shirts.
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unda cheese
Phrase you'll never hear at an Athiest meeting.
"Hey guys, Whose head we cutting off this week?"
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......... Sure he has the right but doesnt mean anyone has to respect it.
If I change my name to Jerry Sandusky should you respect that?
Well Knockdown I dont agree that you want to name yourself after a ......... that molested boys for decades but I do respect your decision.
Makes sense right?
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1. Choosing to abandon the slave name is a lot different than what you are suggesting here. We should get that we "don't get it".
2. Yes, if you're a respectable person i respect your decision . if the whole raison d'être behind your actions is motivated by more than the want to spite people.which brings me to...
3. Overcoming the mechanisms of identity loss and racism is vastly different to choosing a name for shock value don't you agree?
2. Yes, if you're a respectable person i respect your decision . if the whole raison d'être behind your actions is motivated by more than the want to spite people.which brings me to...
3. Overcoming the mechanisms of identity loss and racism is vastly different to choosing a name for shock value don't you agree?
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Tennessee
yes, but saying that I or anyone else has to respect it is mealy mouth political correctness run amok.
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Who gets to decide a name?
If i just want to call you .... headcheese ,is that cool with you?i wouldn't have the right IMO.
if a person chooses to abandon a name , disrespecting that equals disrespecting the man.
If you don't want to call him ali but weirdo or ....... that's cool ,but calling him clay reeks of ignorance and racism.it is that simple .
If i just want to call you .... headcheese ,is that cool with you?i wouldn't have the right IMO.
if a person chooses to abandon a name , disrespecting that equals disrespecting the man.
If you don't want to call him ali but weirdo or ....... that's cool ,but calling him clay reeks of ignorance and racism.it is that simple .
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I would likely qualify very much as a "liberal" by current US standards, but even I am not so keen on the Islamic thing these days, albeit my distaste is perhaps more for Wahabism, although that barbarous and medieval ideology does seem to be becoming more and more influential on hitherto more moderate adherents.
I don't think things were as they are now when the man in question changed his name from Clay to Ali though, and he was disrespecting a name given to his forbears almost certainly mockingly when they were slaves rather than disrespecting his forbears themselves, so I am with you on that.
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It sure is subjective, hence the title. Not sure what corner it is though. Your probably right. Google image search only has a limited number of 'left handed corner' images of MotoGp at Phillip Island
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Anybody with the tiniest bit of wisdom would be. This has nothing to do with Islam, let alone what the lesser minds associate with it.let alone the p.c. excuse that is frequently used to demean " them urban types".
I mean I'm not into islam myself. Its a laughable ,unrealistic religion. 72 virgins? ..... we got VIRGIN BIRTH.and Ducatis. Christians win!
