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Exactly. Frankly I read much of Schwantz opinions in the similar vein to Oxley's.
And was explained as an overheated front tyre, on which he slowed for 4-5 laps before the tyre came back .......... the rest we know
This is an entirely logical suggestion and one that was somewhat supported by Bradley Smith who reported similar issues with his tyre at another meeting, and subsequently by DP (and MM himself) at Valencia who both described front tyre issues
Additionally, Crutchlow and other Honda riders reported 'similar lack of confidence' in the front throughout the season.
As for Rossi changing his thoughts (to which he is entitled) one must ask just what preceded it?
What was it exactly that had him thinking?
Was it a lap, an action, an overtake, a comment by a third party or perhaps even MM after the race?
To you it makes the theory somewhat credible but the full circumstances can also be seen to add large doubt to the alternative view, so just to review.
- Nobody made comments immediately after the race
- Ianonne is abused on Social media and threatened by the rabid fraternity of the Rossi cultists
- Rossi shows leadership and on social media (and I believe in a media interview) implored these people to stop their actions as it was unfair on Ianonne and not what Rossi stood for within himself or the sport. IMO only, but this was very good positive leadership by Rossi who could no doubt see the implications for Ianonne
- We go to Sepang and the proverbial hits the fan with VR's comments outlining his suspicions (although he does not define a suspicion but outright accuses MM)
- Ianonne is asked (in some sections it is said that VR mentioned that 'Ianonne agrees with me' which prompted the question, where in others it is said Ianonne responded to a direct question after VR voiced his suspicions
The issue or inference being that Ianonne made no independent commentary until VR had raised concerns and that given that VR had defended him then perhaps 'Ianonne was paying back' as a thank you for the support.
In other areas people have said that Ianonne being Italian was supporting his fellow Italian (sound familiar regarding compatriot support?)
You haven't ruffled my feathers, they are tarred on so very difficult to ruffle anyway but it would seem that it is not just the 200 word essayists who may have their feathers ruffled
But I do enjoy how you come here and define or determine that people who disagree with your view and are willing to debate it with you, have 'serious mental disorders' and yet you seem to (by exception) exclude the more rabid Rossi supporters from a similar diagnosis
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Sure, apologies, didn't think you were, just saw some potential for Pap to shift the argument away from the main point.
Just because his stance on the current issues is similar to mine, I wouldn't at all argue that Kevin is incapable of not making sense in an interview.
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You've ruffled zero feathers, in fact I'd say everyone is delighted to help you look like a typical run of the mill bopper. Nothing insightful or special.
You didn't suspect anything from PI until your cult leader expressed his paranoia, then you saw everything suspect. Even Marquez 's being a life long Rossi fan was suspect. You and your ilk went back and questioned every little detail and surmised, ah ha, I knew it, he was always trying to thwart my master. Every little detail became "evidence ". He won the race at PI, oh but look he battled with Rossi. Guilty. Oh look the Honda wasn't more stable at the closing stage of a race (despite the pattern all year) no, no, Marc was sandbagging. Oh, forget that's what happened to Pedrosa on the RCV, it becoming more stable at the end of races like Aragon, Sepang, and Valencia, it proof, Marc is guilty.
Papapozza, you should write a letter to Rossi. Tell him next time, get on pole and race fast off the line, so dirty Marc doesn't interrupt his championship. Send it with some cologne, maybe he will reply to your tears.
Adding cod psychology to argumentum ad hominem doesn't really strengthen your argument at all, but would seem to be all you have.
Huh? ...Ah OK, I guess what you're trying to say is that you wouldn't not agree that he is capable of failing to avoid not making sense...
But what do you think about his point of exposing the brake lever? is that a bit of a faux pas or at least a bit of a red herring?
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Too many big words. Give Papabozzo some time to look them up.
Rossi, good. Marquez, bad.
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As I said in an earlier post in the thread, Kevin like Casey Stoner is something of a stream of consciousness guy when interviewed, and in this interview said both that he could understand MM saving his tyres at PI and that he shouldn't need to do so with modern electronics.
I will have to leave it to the judgement of those better informed than I am, among whom I am sure you are numbered, as to how effective brake lever guards are on modern MotoGP bikes.
Bottom line is that both MM and JL were involved in the duel (there are some, doubtless absurdly biased, who even consider them both to have been participating in a GP bike race), and were making equally aggressive moves, and on the nature of such things it would seem to me to me the opportunity to take down the other rider was always there for either rider, but only taken by one.
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But he's Canadian. I'm sure being a stake holder he has standing in being so wrapped up in the Golden Goose. His dividends depends on it.
No, I'm not better informed, that's why I asked the question: I'm genuinely curious.
Yeah, OK...Definition of a troll: 'Someone who's opinion you don't like.'
GTFO
Your creepy obsession over me is quite hilarious. You must salivate at the opportunity to increase post count and engage me and bring meaning to your lonely life.
Save your 500 word post, nothing you do will change my mind, not even calling me a bopper, which I find funny coming from members who can't remove their mouths from Casey Stoner's balls. But no worries, I respect him as well even though he came out second best to VR at Laguna. Heck I'm a fan of Mike DiMeglio, Laverty, Cudlin, Aoyama and all riders, complete respect. Fast or not all these guys have iron balls thus my admiration. And you are correct, those are very big words for my small head. English is not my first language. Over to you bucko... :spin:
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..... If you read my posts I was a Rossi fan. There are others on here as well. We just don't drink the yellow koolaid and see everything through yellow tinted glasses. Troll
You can have whatever opinion you want, obviously. You would appear to object at least strongly as anyone on here to disagreement with your own opinion, however, and have made yet another post which contains no argument either to support your opinion or rebut arguments with which you disagree, and which once again mainly consists of personal abuse despite your motherhood statements deploring same. What most are doing is abusing/mocking your opinions and arguments or lack thereof rather than questioning your psychiatric health or syntax and spelling in any case.
"I'm a Rossi fan and I'm OK/ I don't care" whilst not compelling as an argument is catchy though; perhaps you could ask the Monty Python crew to put it to music.
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Spare me the ......... If you were a real fan you would not just turn around and start hating him for this one incident. Over 320 races, 9 titles and you suddenly turn tail 180 degrees on the spot because he believed in something strongly enough to voice his opinion and react to what he thought was someone trying to induce him into crashing. He's a competitor with a temperament. He didn't molest a child or go on a murder rampage. You were never a fan. For example, I'm a Senna fan, even though what he did in Suzuka 1990 was 100 times worse than this fiasco the past 2 races, he torpedoed a driver @ 180mph and admitted it was on purpose to get revenge, I never ever thought to turn tail and hate. Get lost troll...
I respect you. I'll repeat English is not my first language, so expect errors in spelling and syntax. I have already voiced my opinion in multiple posts a week or 2 ago. No real reason to go around in circles. There is no debating when as soon as I post 12 members come out swinging lol as if to dilute and silence anything positive for Rossi. The anti VR boys club is strong on this forum, going as far as blaming VR for the contact and crashes in Argentina in Assen. Just on that alone you know you can't have any proper dialogue in here.
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Votre encore un troll bite . Triste de voir votre Canadienne
Il tuo ancora un troll cazzo . Triste vedere il tuo Canadese
And being fair (to you) some of the points you make are not out of the realms of possibility, just that some (many in here perhaps) have different views and subsequently, different levels of view.
The fact that you try to put your points in English is appreciated and often things can and do get lost in translation between the native language and English (I and as sure it works in reverse and leads to a lot of misunderstanding as to intent of comment)
Debate all you want, it is welcomed by many but also expect that if one reverts to 'insults' or 'abuse', then like a lot of places it will be returned in kind and sometimes with interest (and that works all sides).
Personally I would rather debate a level headed 'bopper' than I would some that have arrived here in the last few weeks who seem to bleed yellow, pee yellow, crap yellow, speak yellow and worship the colour yellow for whom any mention against Rossi is seen as hating, demented or signalling of lesser intellect in some way.
This forum actually (and yes, it may surprise) welcomes opposing views but you need to be ready to debate and/or defend your view and a simply 'I am right, you are wrong' approach is not always sufficient as there are some people in here with many years of racing experience, officiating experience, watchers of the racing, pure race officianados, journalists and people with 'in paddock' connections.
As for Argentina .......... I say racing incident
Assen ........... MM got carried away and went for a last corner lunge only to be outsmarted by VR who had plan B
Sepang .............. have said my peace there.
Off season .......... just wish that VR would stop the witch hunting and now focus himself, his team and by extension his fans on his 2016 performance as personally I suspect that the Michelin tyres and lesser electronics will work to his favour more than some (he has shown his adapability in all but one case)
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