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Norah Head
It appeared to work in the pitlane. How would they map lean angle when trolling down the pit entry and exit?
We know Dorna have got lean angle sensors b/c they use them for the graphics from time to time. It would be very strange to operate the camera with GPS presets rather than using the onboard equipment they already have. Not saying the TV was wrong, but it does seem a very curious way to operate a camera.
Joined Jun 2007
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Norah Head
Very likely the case, but as to Rog's understanding/translation of whatever they said .......well
just relaying what matt on the bbc said. I did not see the camera shot in pit lane so can't really comment, but you would still see the bike lean even if the motor was in it horizontal position, just not the image of the true lean angle like we saw when the bike is on track being plotted by the gps system i would have thought.
I also just remembered that in the free Dorna video they are testing the system in Rossi's garage by using the crew to lean it left and right. It must be lean angle related b/c it works in the pit when it's not moving. Either someone played a prank on Matt or some communication lines got crossed and people are confused about how it works.
Joined Sep 2007
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Oh Rog.
Where's the shakey head smiley again.
Matt was wrong with the GPS statement. There is a thee axis gyro which provides the data to move the lens via a tiny motor.
Joined Jun 2007
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Norah Head
Was it Rog. or Matt? Either way Rog. did assert what he purports Matt to have said, and it was glaringly wrong.
I guess its what you get when you take your "technical knowledge" from TV, Mag.s etc. etc. etc.
There's a pretty basic cross sectional view of the Gyro camera on Motogp.com, eve that could have allerted you to your gullibilty Rog.
Was it Rog. or Matt? Either way Rog. did assert what he purports Matt to have said, and it was glaringly wrong.
I guess its what you get when you take your "technical knowledge" from TV, Mag.s etc. etc. etc.
Really ? You really should spend some time looking at facts before opening your mouth. Again you have made yourself look a fool !
http://www.motogp.com/en/news/2010/New+Gyroscopic+OnBoard+Camera+at+Sachsenring
Joined Jun 2007
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Norah Head
andhow you were corrcted by other posters
But oh wait you found an article telling me the full tech. spec.s and a full technical description
Thanks for the article that agrees with me
Score!!
Umm did you read your frst post Rog,
Thanks for the article that agrees with me
Score!!
Of course i read my first post.
I also said i was just relaying what matt had said. Turns out the motogp site is saying the same. As for this article agreeing with you
I think the whole GPS thing is just a red herring to increase the camera's "rad" factor. If you watch Dorna's own demonstration video, 3 Fiat Yamaha crew members are leaning Valentino's bike left and right while checking the camera angle via a handheld monitor. If it works when the bike is stationary in the pit, it doesn't need GPS.
I think it's just marketing BS, but as you say, you were relaying the information that Dorna gave to the press. I don't understand why it's so difficult to tell how something works without sexing it up, but that's modern day marketing and advertising for you. I suppose I could give Dorna the benefit of the doubt and assume that the camera has other settings that are adjusted slightly by track postition. Maybe it has minor pitch or yaw adjustments as well.
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Pomona NY
Very likely the case, but as to Rog's understanding/translation of whatever they said .......well
Oh give it a rest already.
Joined Jun 2007
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Norah Head
It is and it isn't, the GPS merely allows them to put a data label on the tilt info on from the Gyro camera. Does nothing to actually show tilt, ie. it doesn't need the GPS for the images we are seeing, but given that this is the "digital age" is a good reference for images coming from the camera. They could be using time, however I would suggest that the position data is "otherwise useful". Also given the drift experienced with Gyros the GPS is a great reference for a constant "recalibrate" that the Gyrowould require.
Later analysis on that GPS data could be very useful, ie. they are effectively 3D mapping the circuit andcould be building up a great cornering performance database
Umm did you read your frst post Rog,
andhow you were corrcted by other posters
But oh wait you found an article telling me the full tech. spec.s and a full technical description
Thanks for the article that agrees with me
Score!!
Well come on then, Where is your post that you claim you said the same as is stated in the link i provided I've read through the thread and can't see any explanation from you at all prior to your above post. Please quote yourself to prove this point of yours .
The only thing your scored was an own goal FOOL!
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Out of Nowhere
What a ......
Well you get out there on your bar stool, pile of video's, magazines, or couch and skid your little heart out buttercup
Have a go of a 749 ( or anything else without a slipper and a bit of decent compression ) and tell me what you thinkAnd I mean in real life not on your game machine
Regarding the skids, you are no longer disagreeing with me, you are disagreeing with the opinion of James Whitham ex GP, WSB, BSB, TT veteran, journalist and TV commentator. Carry on, it's amusing to many members on this forum. You still fail to understand the meaning of backing it in - and seem to be hopelessly confusing it with a powerslide. Downshift Berry - with the option of a modicum of rear brake, of in some cases a lot of progressive rear application - depending on rider preference. Tell you what, I'll track down Aaron Yates in the next few days (who's been know to shall we say - step it out a bit) - and I'll ask his opinion for you.
Thanks for the advice Berry. I have ridden a 748 as I explained before. I liked the torquey motor, but I must confess I never noticed it locking up whenever I shut the throttle due to the compression - even kicking it down a cog or two, But then as you explained before Berry, you don't need the downshift...you simply shut the throttle in any gear and it just locks up by itself. GENIUS!!!
Actually I get out a little more than you think. In fact I feel in need of a little jaunt this this weekend come to think about it if I can muster the energy to get off my couch, dispense with the hand controller, and clamber over my mountainous pile of magazines and videos. Watch this slot my friend - although I can't guarantee that here won't be the odd bar stool involved at some stage.
Tell me Berry; when was the last time you actually went to a race? or maybe met another member off this forum? and where? Just interested.
I doubt he has ever been to a race, like sod he will use the excuse of "because i live in oz its to far to travel" and as for meeting member's
Tell you something that made me laugh today. I was trying to reply to one of berrybullshits inane posts today and i tried to put a
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Your Mom's House
Actually Arrabbi, BM has met up with another member here. He posted this pic some time ago with Pinky. About the race part not sure, they barely look human actually.
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This is your best ever post.
Is that an olive branch?
