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Rossi wants title number 10, and more wins than Ago, so 18 more wins....once he has them then Rossi will retire from MotoGP....
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Rossi wants title number 10, and more wins than Ago, so 18 more wins....once he has them then Rossi will retire from MotoGP....
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even with stoner gone, and being on a yamaha that means at least another 3-4 years if honda decide to stay
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It will take him 3-4 years minimum to win 18 times.
I hope you are wrong because it just proves that Rossi has learnt nothing and it is pure ego that is controlling him. Sad.
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He is hungry, so I would think he would push to get the wins in 3 year.... but the title may be harder...
Ok i'm gonna lay it out there.
Hector Barbera 2013 MotoGP champ, on a CRT. Yep he's gonna blow them away and show everyone he is the true GOAT
Which is about as likely as Rossi winning another title
thanks for the post,
Rossi is humbled, which makes him a better rider in my opinion, more mature and he will enjoy winning much more than he used to.
I think it may take him a bit to get up to speed, but at least a 1/3 of the way into it we could see him back to his old ways. I hope so at least.
Legacy:
People tend to focus on negatives more than positives, especially when negatives come after great success. When he wins another race and starts challenging, people will remember. 2 years of "failure" does not overwrite 9 years of absolute success.
Rossi is humbled, which makes him a better rider in my opinion, more mature and he will enjoy winning much more than he used to.
I think it may take him a bit to get up to speed, but at least a 1/3 of the way into it we could see him back to his old ways. I hope so at least.
Legacy:
People tend to focus on negatives more than positives, especially when negatives come after great success. When he wins another race and starts challenging, people will remember. 2 years of "failure" does not overwrite 9 years of absolute success.
What else would he be? he and JB gave Stoner a lot of .... and Rossi barely went faster than the b team,i do like your blind faith thou.
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Maybe not, but it does do one hell of a good job placing those '9 years of glory' in proper perspective.
Rossi's utter failure highlights a basic truth: Give 70% of the riders the Best bike, Best tires, Best team, etc. and they too will win titles.
Take away those advantage and even a 'God' starts to look pretty pathetic.
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Ducati does not have the capability to implement whats needed to compete with the Jap machines at this level no mater whos on the bike.
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I hope he does come to Yamaha being a lot more humble and I also want to see his relationship with Jorge not go back to what it was. No doubt Rossi is flawed but who isn't flawed?
I'm not that confident that Rossi will be able to beat Jorge regularly. I think at some tracks he will such as Sepang but Jorge is riding as close to perfectly as one can at this level. Should be an interesting season next year. Not to everyone's taste but interesting.
As for pushing on until 118 wins, I'm not sure if that is possible as he needs to start winning again first. I do defend all riders' right to prolong their career for as long as they wish while they are still competitive. It's not a career that really goes beyond the late 30s/early 40s so they have to maximise it while they can.
I'm not that confident that Rossi will be able to beat Jorge regularly. I think at some tracks he will such as Sepang but Jorge is riding as close to perfectly as one can at this level. Should be an interesting season next year. Not to everyone's taste but interesting.
As for pushing on until 118 wins, I'm not sure if that is possible as he needs to start winning again first. I do defend all riders' right to prolong their career for as long as they wish while they are still competitive. It's not a career that really goes beyond the late 30s/early 40s so they have to maximise it while they can.
Flawed is not the word id use,he treated Jorge,Sete and Max to name three like they were ....,nice guy that.
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This ain't a knitting competition, it's not like any of those guys are above criticism. It's not like he punched any of'em in the back...well Biaggi in the face, but not at 100mph.
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the idea behind the junior team is that ducati want the data of 4 bikes to improve the desmo,hence those bikes should be essentially the same as the marlboro ducatis and receive the same upgrades.
but actually anything would be more support than what barbera and abraham have received, those 2 got royally ...... this year by having to ride an unrideable bike that received zero upgrades over the course of the season.its quite an accomplishment the chosen one barbera was able to keep up with the factory boys every now and then
but actually anything would be more support than what barbera and abraham have received, those 2 got royally ...... this year by having to ride an unrideable bike that received zero upgrades over the course of the season.its quite an accomplishment the chosen one barbera was able to keep up with the factory boys every now and then
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No way. If that was true, Honda would have won every single year... But after years of failures they had to hire Stoner to win again, who's not exactly a 70% kind of rider. More a 1% imo..
The future of Ducati is more intriguing than the future of Valentino Rossi. Rossi is hungry to win again, and hungry to score regular podiums. I don't think he is nearly as hungry as 2008 & 2009 so I don't think he will take the risks necessary to win a title over an 18 race season. If he scores a few wins a season and scores regular podiums, he can bask in the limelight of positive media attention without being mauled by the yellow army. He might even take a kind of twisted satisfaction in drawing bigger crowds, though he is not champion. Rossi already indicated this would be the future of his career, when he said he was happy to return to Yamaha as the #2 and have some pressure taken off of him. If Valentino wins another title, it will just happen as a result of close competition. You won't see him put his health on the line to win by over 100 pts, imo.
Ducati's outlook is much more bleak. The Desmo GP has only turned properly for 2 seasons. Once in 2006, when the fuel capacity was reduced to 22L, and Bstone started developing the new 800cc tires. The second season it turned properly was 2007, when Casey won the championship in the new 21L 800cc era. After the emergency tire meetings in 2007, and after the resulting regulations were put in place for 2008, the Ducati stopped handling properly. Ducati are a factory team that cannot build a chassis/engine to cope with the tire regulations or the control tire. They've tried everything, including switching the entire bike to carbon monocoque so they can play around with positioning the ballast. After the experiment with carbon fiber didn't improve the handling or Casey's lack of front end feel, Ducati hired the team that out-developed them on the new 2008-spec Bridgestone. Even the most prolific development duo in MotoGP couldn't make the Desmo turn.
Other than Stoner, no one has ever been able to make the Ducati turn, but Stoner's aggressive experimental riding style was not consistent enough to give Ducati a shot at another world title. Which way is 'up' for Ducati? They can't design a bike around the tires, and the tire regulations will probably never allow the same equipment that led to the cornerspeeds in 2007.
Ducati's outlook is much more bleak. The Desmo GP has only turned properly for 2 seasons. Once in 2006, when the fuel capacity was reduced to 22L, and Bstone started developing the new 800cc tires. The second season it turned properly was 2007, when Casey won the championship in the new 21L 800cc era. After the emergency tire meetings in 2007, and after the resulting regulations were put in place for 2008, the Ducati stopped handling properly. Ducati are a factory team that cannot build a chassis/engine to cope with the tire regulations or the control tire. They've tried everything, including switching the entire bike to carbon monocoque so they can play around with positioning the ballast. After the experiment with carbon fiber didn't improve the handling or Casey's lack of front end feel, Ducati hired the team that out-developed them on the new 2008-spec Bridgestone. Even the most prolific development duo in MotoGP couldn't make the Desmo turn.
Other than Stoner, no one has ever been able to make the Ducati turn, but Stoner's aggressive experimental riding style was not consistent enough to give Ducati a shot at another world title. Which way is 'up' for Ducati? They can't design a bike around the tires, and the tire regulations will probably never allow the same equipment that led to the cornerspeeds in 2007.
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i think that since ducati went all japanese chassis wise this year no one can ride that bike to victory.possibly stoner on the island, but thats about it.
thats why i can only laugh at burgess claims that they will leave ducati in a better position than when they arrived. they found a bike that was extremely difficult to ride but because it was so different it could perform properly at least at some tracks,after all hayden didn't do too bad in 2010 IMO.
now its just a slow,crappy bike everywhere.
i personally think jorge is just an improved and more motivated version of rossi, but what would that translate to?maybe not being 30 seconds off the lead but rather 20...
