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Rider X speaks out about the ills in Motogp

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NOW ACCORDING TO ME THE ALARM BELLS SHOULD BE RINGING IN MOTOGP
Our Rider X exposes a serious problem in the world championship.

I’m not very good at writing but let’s say this is my attempt to make a heartfelt contribution to the activity that earns me my bread. In great quantities too, I am well aware. Maybe it’s also for this that I really love motorcycling. Therefore, you may consider my comments as being very petty or very passionate. As you wish, I don’t care. What I care about is the result.
So we’re at three: three compliments, open, gratuitious from Valentino to Superbike, to its racing. Three offers to race there “one day, when I’m older”. Three times in which he’s said “In superbike you can see the kind of racing we used to enjoy, with lots of overtaking and less electronics”.
Three in less than one month. You know Valentino right? He’s intelligent and he knows how to send a message about one thing whilst talking about something else at exactly the right moment. I would imagine Ezpeleta has had news of it (considering the news has reached me, I who never ever read anything?!) I also guess that he is enjoying those comments as much as one would enjoy a cat sticking its claws into the seat of his pants.
I think Vale is saying what a lot of people are thinking. Motogp now is the least fun it’s been in the past ten years, whoever of us wins. No overtaking and not even a hint of last lap emotions. A journalist was pointing out to me that for four races in 2008 the rider who won the race was already leading the race by the end of the first lap. For as many more, the arrival order was decided in the first few laps.
Yes it’s true. But we’re not seeing any signs from the relevant institutions that there is any willingness to review the formula. The federation, which safeguards the sport (in theory) remains silent. Of course the tv ratings are good however. But is it enough? No, because it takes an instant for it to fall apart.
I won’t sit here and say the fault really lies in the electronics, safe but which makes its presence felt, or in the tyres, very evolved and very funky. I think however it could be both things together. Of course there are strange coincidences, of course we could or should set up a meeting to discuss this, even if it leads nowhere. But it’s a priority even more urgent than that strange and murky thing which is happening with the 250’s. But that’s another story.
I race. I enjoy myself ok, but I don’t understand how anyone watching from the outside, the decision makers, can fail to feel uncomfortable about it. We’ll talk further, about this and more. You’ll see. Ciao.
Rider X
 
This is a complicated issue. Like Pinky's topic rightfully says, motogp is very exciting at the moment, there are close points battles throughout the field and most would agree that the riders are still making the difference between winning and losing. Trouble is, the races are more spaced out and it seems that is a side effect of the advancement in technology, but altering the rules to manufacture close racing in principle at least is not what GP racing is about, thats superbike. Restricting the technology without strangling design freedom and engineering challenges is one of the hardest balancing acts in prototype racing, and if high tech racing has had its day then will the manufacturers lose interest or continue adding their name to the entertainment series that the racing will become just for the advertising.

In mid-long term Motogp might find itself in trouble, and getting out will be the biggest challenge the series has faced.
 
Is this Rider X MM or caprex??

But this says a lot about how riders themselves feel about the current state of motogp.

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Thanks BG for translating
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Tom @ Jul 15 2008, 12:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Trouble is, the races are more spaced out and it seems that is a side effect of the advancement in technology, but altering the rules to manufacture close racing in principle at least is not what GP racing is about, thats superbike. Restricting the technology without strangling design freedom and engineering challenges is one of the hardest balancing acts in prototype racing, and if high tech racing has had its day then will the manufacturers lose interest or continue adding their name to the entertainment series that the racing will become just for the advertising.

If restrictions are so hard or dangerous, why is it almost all the major performance parts of the bikes are closely restricted allready.
What's really left?
Frame, while a major component, until someone find something competly new (and I'm not talking carbon fibre) it's a very advanced and tested technology with very little to gain from the best of the present.
Suspension: the same can be said as above.
I'm sure you can find more but the point is they have limited influence and as it all is old technolgy it's also very close to it's optimum unless it is allready clearly regulated as most things allready are.

Advanced computers are the new thing that change so many aspects of the ride. It sure is an exciting aspect to test and develop but it also does something else.
It doesn't take away a riders importance but it changes the role of the rider quite a bit.
The riders ability to give the right input to the team and for the team to set the bike up (including computer adjustments of course) are so much more important. That's true even with todays advanced telemetric. When the lights go out at the start there seems to be very few variables in the riders ability to change speed. They are all riding very close to a very blunt edge (relative to the past). Exactly how close and how fast depend on riders ability and the bike but the point is that for that rider/bike combination they are very close to the edge. That's what rider aids does and that's why there are so little changes and why they slowly spread out. Add to that the tire management and TC's help to ride worn tires fast and you have the same lap times all through the race.
We don't see much change due to tire wear, or whight distribution with less gas, or a rider that really make an inpired ride as he suddenly start to catch the others and pass them.
Sure, it's all still there, not completly gone but to a much lesser degree than it used to be.
 
My guess is that Rider X is actually Rossi.

It is the sort of thing only Rossi could do. Ballsy and having a go in a way that takes the piss. I can just picture him having a good laugh about it.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (TP70 @ Jul 15 2008, 01:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>My guess is that Rider X is actually Rossi.

It is the sort of thing only Rossi could do. Ballsy and having a go in a way that takes the piss. I can just picture him having a good laugh about it.
I CAN picture him having a laugh, but somehow I think if Rossi wanted to stir the .... pot he'd come right out and stir it...especially because according to a lot of his detractors on here, Dorna does nothing but lick his mismatched boots!
 
nice article. thanks bg!
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Something I don't get ....

in the days of yore ....... ye olde Rider X would have not sat there whinging about a rider running away with a race ....... he would have chased after the guy! not sat there typeing about it!!
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BarryMachine @ Jul 15 2008, 03:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Something I don't get ....

in the days of yore ....... ye olde Rider X would have not sat there whinging about a rider running away with a race ....... he would have chased after the guy! not sat there typeing about it!!
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yeah barry...we all know you've been watching gp since dinosaurs roamed the earth...but it IS the age of electronics after all so all X can do is tap away at his Vaio till the software guys on his team deliver the goods...
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (xx CURVE xx @ Jul 15 2008, 11:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>bring back the big boy bikes 990s.

Why don't you watch WSBK Curve they have lots of big ole plonker tractors on there!
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990's were the worst era of Motogp ever! too much like WSBK and Superstock or even Extreme bike racing to me. I'm glad motogp has again found an elite formula in 800's as were the 500's. I never thought the 1000's were as interesting as the 500's but 800's seem to have brought back that speed.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BarryMachine @ Jul 15 2008, 07:31 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Why don't you watch WSBK Curve they have lots of big ole plonker tractors on there!
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990's were the worst era of Motogp ever! too much like WSBK and Superstock or even Extreme bike racing to me. I'm glad motogp has again found an elite formula in 800's as were the 500's. I never thought the 1000's were as interesting as the 500's but 800's seem to have brought back that speed.


I would expect a post like this from a person that doesn't ride and doesn't know .... about bikes..
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those tractors are faster and more ballsy than your 800 pocket bikes....your a little guy aren't you?
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BarryMachine @ Jul 15 2008, 07:31 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Why don't you watch WSBK Curve they have lots of big ole plonker tractors on there!
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990's were the worst era of Motogp ever! too much like WSBK and Superstock or even Extreme bike racing to me. I'm glad motogp has again found an elite formula in 800's as were the 500's. I never thought the 1000's were as interesting as the 500's but 800's seem to have brought back that speed.
hhhhmmmm, a 1000cc two stroke
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (kngadrok @ Jul 15 2008, 03:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>hhhhmmmm, a 1000cc two stroke
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Scary! Dani's ecu would disintegrate from the grunt of that...never make it past the start line.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (xx CURVE xx @ Jul 15 2008, 02:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>bring back the big boy bikes 990s.

My thoughts exactly
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I must admit im tottally convinced rider x is capirossi at the moment, like someone has allready mentioned rossi would more than likely just come out with these things rather than anonymously announce it ( during the sachsenring 125 eurosport coverage, rossi came into the commentary box where he admitted without hesitation the 800's were boring in comparison to the 990's ).
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (kngadrok @ Jul 15 2008, 08:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>hhhhmmmm, a 1000cc two stroke
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I'd say, 800cc 4 stroke no TC (except for wet)
2 stroke ? Greenpeace won't be very happy with that
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (#46 @ Jul 15 2008, 04:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I'd say, 800cc 4 stroke no TC (except for wet)
2 stroke ? Greenpeace won't be very happy with that
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Well Guintoli raced Sachsenring in the wet with no TC from lap 3 onwards and he did ok. So no tc at all thank you.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Bikergirl @ Jul 15 2008, 09:49 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Well Guintoli raced Sachsenring in the wet with no TC from lap 3 onwards and he did ok. So no tc at all thank you.
You beat me to it.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (kngadrok @ Jul 15 2008, 06:43 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>hhhhmmmm, a 1000cc two stroke
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yes, they can construct cemeteries in the infield at every circuit.


The problem is the youngins. They fall for DORNA's marketing fluff and they seem incapable of grasping the difference between unrestricted open class racing and prototype racing. In unrestricted open class racing there are no parts limitations. In prototype racing, 99.9% of all existing motorcycle parts are banned.
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I understand that people want prototype to be more like unrestricted open class racing, but the governing body has been adding restrictions for decades. The last unrestricted element of the sport was performance, but it was intentionally restricted when Ezy made the switch to the 800s.

Thankfully Ezy's plan failed, but his failure is also bringing great injury to the sport. It is time for him to go.

Bring back the 990s!!!!