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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pirkkalan GP @ Apr 11 2009, 10:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Interesting. Kallio's commented very positively towards his Pramac team. Pretty much saying similar things to close knit and family though not quite going that far. Also has commented how well they've been able to work through setup. Kallio's English isn't that good...
Barros said similar things, which is even stranger being as they were still under the stewardship of Luis Dantin. Actually thinking about it, I think he said it after they blew him out
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (JohnnyKnockdown @ Apr 11 2009, 10:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Anyone got a linky to the highside?
It's not pretty Johnny
 
wtf???

I thought the qualies will begin live at 00,15 sunday CET, but now i know the result.

what a .... job by dorna to take out our Euro sport and put this .... gp at night.

now i have only rtl7 with it's long advertise and a dead coverage.

oh man, they really ...... my weekend, to wait 5 months and get this.


as a few people already mentioned what will happen if it rains during the race at night??

it looks as if the dorna's boss is only coping .... idea's from bernie's f1, and he is doing his best to fcuk moto gp.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Arrabbiata1 @ Apr 11 2009, 02:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>You really are a dipshit aren't you. Read the post you dumb. How long have you been watching this sport? I'm not making excuses for Nicky or anyone on that side of the box, I'm just suggesting that there might be a translation issue amongst Nicky's crew, and by that I don't necessarily refer to the language barrier, but the translation of data. This may be a chronic problem that has hampered previous riders as well, (although Gibbers brought Juan Martinez with him - and wasn't Pupilan always with Cappers?).

Nicky's not about to openly proclaim that he doesn't get on with with his crew and his chief - that's not his way, and I'm not suggesting that he doesn't get on with them, that's not the issue - I'm not asking you to agree with my opinion, I may well be wrong, rather that you just understand it before you pass comment. Read the post again you plank.

Super Shinya I think I speak on behalf of this entire forum when I say that you rival Berry and Pinky in your ability to consistently deliver stunningly stupid uninformed posts. Well done.

I'm just sticking to the fact that Hayden was making a comment awhile back on how great he is fitting in with Ducati. You on the other hand is proclaiming false conspiracy theories base on YOUR personal experience that doesn't even have anything to do with what goes on in the garage. And just meeting someone you know, who probably stared at you akwardly because you are a STRANGER and a foreigner, then proceed to understand what he, Nicky, and Ducati as a whole handles their business is just ridiculous if you ask me.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (rossiofsky @ Apr 11 2009, 10:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>wtf???

I thought the qualies will begin live at 00,15 sunday CET, but now i know the result.

what a .... job by dorna and that ...... up camel rider qatarian sheik, to take out our Euro sport and put this .... gp at night.

now i have only rtl7 with it's long advertise and a dead coverage.

oh man, they really ...... my weekend, to wait 5 months and get this.


as a few people already mentioned what will happen if it rains during the race at night??

it looks as if the dorna's boss is only coping .... idea's from bernie's f1, and he is doing his best to fcuk moto gp.


if you not the coverage in holland try justin tv and if you can get DSF from germany/astra1 19E
etc they showing everything live.i watched DSF all weekend and its free if you got the right set up satellite dish.etc
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (SuperShinya56 @ Apr 11 2009, 11:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I'm just sticking to the fact that Hayden was making a comment awhile back on how great he is fitting in with Ducati. You on the other hand is proclaiming false conspiracy theories base on YOUR personal experience that doesn't even have anything to do with what goes on in the garage. And just meeting someone you know, who probably stared at you akwardly because you are a STRANGER and a foreigner, then proceed to understand what he, Nicky, and Ducati as a whole handles their business is just ridiculous if you ask me.
Ha ....... at least Hayden was offered a Factory ride instead of a superbike ride. ...... no can do you need to leave and talk about something you know about like ....!
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (SuperShinya56 @ Apr 11 2009, 11:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I'm just sticking to the fact that Hayden was making a comment awhile back on how great he is fitting in with Ducati. You on the other hand is proclaiming false conspiracy theories base on YOUR personal experience that doesn't even have anything to do with what goes on in the garage. And just meeting someone you know, who probably stared at you akwardly because you are a STRANGER and a foreigner, then proceed to understand what he, Nicky, and Ducati as a whole handles their business is just ridiculous if you ask me.
Nah I didn't meet Poupilon, I shared a lift with him...you wouldn't want to share a lift with me Shinya56 I promise you.

But granted, I did make a sweeping statement about him based on the way he looks. He's got some sort of shifty demeanour about him, but like you say I don't know the guy so that's not the point of the thread which I agree is mere conjecture on my part.

I don't do conspirisary btw, Lex however will be along soon.

Of course Nicky will say how great his is fitting in at Ducati, he's a PR dream, unfailingly courteous and very loyal and furthermore...he is - I don't dispute that fact. Even after all the ..... he endured at HRC, all the provocation from the evil empire of Puig, he retained his dignity and remained gracious thanking Honda for his career long factory support.

I do believe that the problems encountered riding the Ducati by those other than Casey are exacerbated by the personnel at Ducati that's all..I don't claim to be correct, and I certainly don't base such views on a chance encounter with one of them. You misconstrue me as 'making excuses' for Nicky. You suggest that he should hang up his hemet, but at the same time reinforce the fact that Hayden feels he is fitting in well at Ducati in an attempt to counter my contention that there is a problem in that garage. I hope I am wrong, but I am certain that the communication issue or lack of it does not help. Meanwhile, you merely suggest that Nicky is not cutting it as a rider at this level...care to dispel your mindless 'Pinky' rhetoric and actually venture as to why this may be. Come on enlighten me.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ROCKGOD01 @ Apr 11 2009, 11:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Ha ....... at least Hayden was offered a Factory ride instead of a superbike ride. ...... no can do you need to leave and talk about something you know about like ....!
RockGod...we agree at last
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It's amazing how dimwits like Pinky and Shinya serve to unite this forum
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (JohnnyKnockdown @ Apr 11 2009, 10:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Anyone got a linky to the highside?

Dude...it was not pretty...he went out the front....if you ride a bike then you will not need / want to see it...
 
Thanks Pigeon

For tomorrow i have to use it.

I liked to enjoy this from qualifyings, but not a big problem now.

Stoner with his time has washed everybody,

if they stay the same after start,it,s LC all over again and from begin of the season.

Lets hope hope for that, or that at least Rossi dosn't fall too many places behind in the start.

In that case Casey will take it all.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Arrabbiata1 @ Apr 11 2009, 11:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>...........................
I do believe that the problems encountered riding the Ducati by those other than Casey are exacerbated by the personnel at Ducati that's all..........................

The 'personnel' could never do anything like that against the will of the management (if they are just incompetent, they would be sacked). So you are actually saying that Ducati's management intentionally provide anybody but Stoner (Capirossi, Melandri, now Hayden) with incompetent technical teams so that they can only manage a poor show? Interesting theory. I am not saying that's impossible. But we have to understand, why would they do that?
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"The fact that the Ducati is so obviously sensitive, temperamental and has riders other than Stoner blindly chasing anything remotely approaching a decent setup suggests that rider feedback is imperative. I think that Nicky's crew will lack the information exchange/feedback loop which is so strong for Casey. Maybe Nicky should do a JT and poach a crew chief from his teammate - ie, request the other Cristian from Casey because like Guy Coulon, he can't understand him and vice versa. Even Marco mentioned last year that communication was a problem on that side of the garage..and he's Italian for God's sake!! Seriously though, I think this is a major problem for Nicky this year, as it has been for previous incumbents on that side of the garage."
says Arab Biata

Are you seriously suggesting that Ducati would break up Caseys team and reduce the chances of the years almost joint favourite for the title so that maybe Nicky might improve from say 12th to 8th?? Thats one of the maddest suggestions I,ve heard for a long time. I wish Nicky all the best, but you don,t do ANYTHING that may harm your no 1 riders chances. mad mad mad!
Nicky needs a lot of help and I believe they are trying. I also truly believe that Casey would be doing his best to help him. Maybe if Nicky were a real threat to Stoner ( ie within 1/2 sec) that would stop, but for now I think Nicky has the whole Ducati camp on his side.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Bunyip @ Apr 12 2009, 12:32 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>"The fact that the Ducati is so obviously sensitive, temperamental and has riders other than Stoner blindly chasing anything remotely approaching a decent setup suggests that rider feedback is imperative. I think that Nicky's crew will lack the information exchange/feedback loop which is so strong for Casey. Maybe Nicky should do a JT and poach a crew chief from his teammate - ie, request the other Cristian from Casey because like Guy Coulon, he can't understand him and vice versa. Even Marco mentioned last year that communication was a problem on that side of the garage..and he's Italian for God's sake!! Seriously though, I think this is a major problem for Nicky this year, as it has been for previous incumbents on that side of the garage."
says Arab Biata

Are you seriously suggesting that Ducati would break up Caseys team and reduce the chances of the years almost joint favourite for the title so that maybe Nicky might improve from say 12th to 8th?? Thats one of the maddest suggestions I,ve heard for a long time. I wish Nicky all the best, but you don,t do ANYTHING that may harm your no 1 riders chances. mad mad mad!
Nicky needs a lot of help and I believe they are trying. I also truly believe that Casey would be doing his best to help him. Maybe if Nicky were a real threat to Stoner ( ie within 1/2 sec) that would stop, but for now I think Nicky has the whole Ducati camp on his side.
No, of course not..it was an ironic remark based on the situation with JT and Colin at Tech 3, which is why I put 'seriously though' immediately afterwards...keep up
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Nicky Hayden transferred to hospital

Nicky Hayden has been transferred to hospital for further checks after a disastrous end to his MotoGP qualifying debut for Ducati, at Qatar on Saturday.

Hayden, who had suffered technical problems in both free practice sessions - including an engine failure - prior to qualifying, was launched into the air by a vicious highside at the very end of the 45-minute session, whilst trying to improve on 16th position.

The 2006 world champion, due to make his 100th MotoGP start on Sunday, suffered severe pain in his back and, after undergoing some initial x-rays at the circuit medical centre, has been taken to a local hospital for further checks.

Hayden also required three stitches for a cut to his chest and is described as 'doubtful' for the race.

"I don't feel like going for a jog right now, I can tell you that much!" joked Nicky. "It was a big crash and I'm in a lot of pain so we're going to get some more x-rays done and see what the score is."


was a nasty crash and i hope x-rays at the hospital show nothing serious, i wish him a speedy recovery and hope he can race tomorow.
 
I,m pedalling as fast as I can
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and I just passed Nicky!
Jumk. lex etc...............only a joke
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I got up early and didn,t read every word.....I,ve obviously going to have to pay more attention.

Mind you its the sort of suggestion you could possibly expect from a manic Hayden fan. Jumkie??

haha
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (J4rn0 @ Apr 12 2009, 12:27 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>The 'personnel' could never do anything like that against the will of the management (if they are just incompetent, they would be sacked). So you are actually saying that Ducati's management intentionally provide anybody but Stoner (Capirossi, Melandri, now Hayden) with incompetent technical teams so that they can only manage a poor show? Interesting theory. I am not saying that's impossible. But we have to understand, why would they do that?
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No I'm not saying that either.

I'm simply saying based upon my own understanding, that Casey's crew are very tight, and bond well with the rider just as the Aussies Burgess, Briggs and Stephens et al. comprise the enduring nucleus of Rossi's crew which he brought over from Repsol Honda to Yamaha.

I don't think that the other side of the Ducati garage is as cohesive, and functions as smoothly with quite the level of reciprocity between rider an crew as Casey's team where there's almost a 'symbiosis' between machine, rider and engineer, just as there is at Fiat Yamaha with Vale. This is one of the main reasons why both are the chief protagonists in the Championship.

This situation at Ducati is not by design, and owes more on Casey's side perhaps to happenstance or serendipity. Who know's? I'm not claiming I do, it's just speculation. I probably deserve to be flamed for my viewpoint, but I think that Nicky's side of the garage certainly lacks this balance, and the situation could be redressed/addressed somewhat by Domenicalli or Suppo.

I did not attribute Melandri's woes last season purely to his attitude or his apparent inability to ride the bike to a lack of ability. We all know how hugely talented he is. I think Ducati can suffer from the inflexible HRC syndrome where too much emphasis is placed upon the machine/brand. at the expense of faith in, and support for the rider.

Anyway, this season, watch Christian Pupilin during Hayden's debrief, I've noticed over the years he very seldom speaks. I'm honestly not sure he has the right personality/affinity for the job. Again, I may be well off the mark here, it's just a theory.
 

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