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Nicky... don't bum yourself out

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ptk50 @ Oct 17 2006, 09:53 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Hi, truth of the matter is that Nicky Hayden just isn't made out of what it takes to be a (real) champion. Like you say both Repsol riders could have gone out a lap earlier if Dani had more fight in him and and countered Hayden's hard pass. Hard passing is not Pedrosa's style and that is one of the reasons why he needs more time in MotoGP. Dani Pedrosa and not Hayden is who will challenge Valentino in the future. What's this crap about Dani can atone for his mistake if we run one/ two in Spain. Aside of the unfounded assumption that Rossi (and a good few others, Capirossi, Elias, Roberts, Stoner to name just a few) will trickle around at 3rd or less to let Dani "atone" - does Nicky Hayden seriously believe that if he and Dani had the race to themselves thast Dani should make him a gift of the 1st place. Get real Nicky, or join Ferrari, be thankfull for the problems that have screwed up Rossi's season so far and take a lesson from the way he responded to Toni Elias after he apologized for the 1st corner crash in the opening race. Repsol Honda fields the best bike, enjoys the biggest R&D budget and will possibly have a future champion with Dani Pedrosa, but right now Valentino champions MotoGp on and off the track - in adversity as well as success.

I'm glad to see that someone understood my post. I was trying to get the point across that even though he has had pitfalls this season, four of them where he has only collected a total of 2 points in 4 races, he has stayed focus on his objective to repeat as World Champion. Ordinary riders would have given up already. That is why I used the term Superhuman.

As for Nicky, his biggest complaint is that he has had clutch problems all season. Yes he was consistent all year, but one sign of adversity, he's on the verge of losing his composure on camera and making the statement that his teammate owes him. That is no the sign of a true champion.
 
Hmm....I don't know why people would take offense at being called Rossi-bashers when they're happily saying what a big head he is. Doesn't that sound odd to anyone else? Around here calling someone big headed isn't exactly a compliment. Not even if the head looks as cute as Ben Affleck's.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Electric Mofo @ Oct 17 2006, 12:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Ok so now its okay to compare Rossi to people who fight through cancer, people who have laid the foundations for all science, people who have strived for world peace and compare them to mere athletes. I think you bloody well know that the 'Superhuman' wasn't just a compliment. I think your the one with your head on backwards. And when the Fak did I crap on someone? was my post offensive in any way? did I say " look at this ..... who thinks Rossi's superhuman, next they'll be calling him god" I think you took my post abit personal.

And by the way, did you notice how it was the persons first and only post?
The word 'troll comes to mind' and I betcha he or she wont post again

WRONG. Think about what you just said. You're not seeing my meaning. In each of the people I mentioned....in their time...they were the best in their field......Lance Armstrong IS an athlete, who defied odds and who outperformed all others in his sport despite terrible circumstances.....Mother Teresa was a human being who became more than the sum of her parts to promote change......Albert Einstein was a pioneer in developing theory......If you were to become a cyclist...who would you emulate? huh? How about if you went into humanitarian work? or what about if you decided to be a mathematician???? What if you were a motorcyclist.....who would be the baseline for comparison right now>>>regardless of who you talk to...its Rossi. In his field, he's become more than the sum of his parts, more than a guy with a silly leather suit on....he promotes the sport, he has developed cutting edge race bikes and done so in a short period of time under massive pressure......but you already knew that right? I'm such a bopper...right?

And by the way, I did notice that this was a first post.....is that how you treat people that have a mainstream opinion of Rossi...."they must be a troll"......sure....that isn't being shortsighted.....

Also, your words: ...did I say " look at this ..... who thinks Rossi's superhuman, next they'll be calling him god".....
You think this might be what you really were thinking......I bet it is.....I give credit where credit is due.....if someone else could come in and kick Rossi's ... all over the map....I'd say the same thing about them....
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Electric Mofo @ Oct 17 2006, 09:54 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Ok so now its okay to compare Rossi to people who fight through cancer, people who have laid the foundations for all science, people who have strived for world peace and compare them to mere athletes. I think you bloody well know that the 'Superhuman' wasn't just a compliment. I think your the one with your head on backwards. And when the Fak did I crap on someone? was my post offensive in any way? did I say " look at this ..... who thinks Rossi's superhuman, next they'll be calling him god" I think you took my post abit personal.

And by the way, did you notice how it was the persons first and only post?
The word 'troll comes to mind' and I betcha he or she wont post again

Dude, take a pill. This is one of the reasons why forums are going to the ........
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (The Doc 79 @ Oct 17 2006, 10:28 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>WRONG. Think about what you just said. You're not seeing my meaning. In each of the people I mentioned....in their time...they were the best in their field......Lance Armstrong IS an athlete, who defied odds and who outperformed all others in his sport despite terrible circumstances.....Mother Teresa was a human being who became more than the sum of her parts to promote change......Albert Einstein was a pioneer in developing theory......If you were to become a cyclist...who would you emulate? huh? How about if you went into humanitarian work? or what about if you decided to be a mathematician???? What if you were a motorcyclist.....who would be the baseline for comparison right now>>>regardless of who you talk to...its Rossi. In his field, he's become more than the sum of his parts, more than a guy with a silly leather suit on....he promotes the sport, he has developed cutting edge race bikes and done so in a short period of time under massive pressure......but you already knew that right? I'm such a bopper...right?

And by the way, I did notice that this was a first post.....is that how you treat people that have a mainstream opinion of Rossi...."they must be a troll"......sure....that isn't being shortsighted.....

Also, your words: ...did I say " look at this ..... who thinks Rossi's superhuman, next they'll be calling him god".....
You think this might be what you really were thinking......I bet it is.....I give credit where credit is due.....if someone else could come in and kick Rossi's ... all over the map....I'd say the same thing about them....

Well said
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Hey, it's my 3rd post, am I still a troll?
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Electric Mofo @ Oct 17 2006, 05:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>And by the way, did you notice how it was the persons first and only post?
The word 'troll comes to mind' and I betcha he or she wont post again

maybe because of the way you called this person a 'troll' will determine whether they post again. hardly what you would consider to be a warm welcome?

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (skidmark @ Oct 17 2006, 05:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I like this

agreed skid, good point vespix
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Eagle088 @ Oct 17 2006, 05:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Michelin appologized to Rossi becuase they came out with thier new tires too late. These tires provide a bigger contact patch in the front which offers more grip. With more grip comes more stress on the frame and chasis of the bike. The new M1 frame was designed with some flaws that the old frame didnt have, but was still designed to work better with the current (at that time) michelin rubber. So the new tires caused major problems with the front end. That is why they tried to switch the frame for the old on and it worked.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Electric Mofo @ Oct 17 2006, 05:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Im still gonna stick with my theory but that also makes sense, still doesn't explain why It only happened to Rossi though.

That's only becouse it was the wrong explaination.
Michelin appologized to Rossi because they found that the tire they delivered simply didn't hold up for "normal" use. A potentialy very dangerous situation, ref. Nakano. These tires are not made in the same massproducing units as others tires and are called "handmade". Plenty of possibilities for differences. Listen to post QP interviews, there is often enough coments of how god or bad a particular q-tire was.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (baldylocks @ Oct 17 2006, 12:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>good grief - onyertail - can open, worms, everywhere

vive rossi
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I must say that you got a laugh out of me....
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (onyurtail @ Oct 17 2006, 08:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I must say that you got a laugh out of me....
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i see that making a controvertial post on your first visit gets you a bit of a slagging off here but for what it's worth - i had a right old laugh

welcome matey

keep em coming - i like lively debate.
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welcome onyurtail !


all you wimpering little girls need to ask your-selves just ONE question...


WHO IS THE BEST RYDER OUT THERE.
NO VALE, NO PARTY!
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end of discusion.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (baldylocks @ Oct 17 2006, 12:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>i see that making a controvertial post on your first visit gets you a bit of a slagging off here but for what it's worth - i had a right old laugh

welcome matey

keep em coming - i like lively debate.
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How about the crash? Do you all agree that Nicky stacked Dani on the previous lap and do you all think that there was a lot of space between the two when Dani washed on the rumble strip?

Comments please...
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (onyurtail @ Oct 17 2006, 09:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>How about the crash? Do you all agree that Nicky stacked Dani on the previous lap and do you all think that there was a lot of space between the two when Dani washed on the rumble strip?

Comments please...


yes - i agree that nicky stood dani up on the prev lap. i don't think there was any malice in dani's move although it was pretty stupid.

.... happens man
 
Welcome onyurtail
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I enjoyed your post even though I didn't agree about Rossi. He is just the most Gifted Little Guy (I can say that, I'm older) out there on the track. He makes the race great, even if your not his fan.
 
i only disagree on the 'massive heed' comment. i think rossi is pretty down to earth considering he's Superhuman !
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (baldylocks @ Oct 17 2006, 01:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>i only disagree on the 'massive heed' comment. i think rossi is pretty down to earth considering he's Superhuman !
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And you say I'm making controversy.... ha ha
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (onyurtail @ Oct 17 2006, 09:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>And you say I'm making controversy.... ha ha


it's great isn't it ! he he

Rossi does stuff that the majority of the field are just not able to do. like him or not - you can't argue with his results. he's done wonders for the popularity of the sport and is a great ambassador for motorcycling.

he may be human - but only just
 

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