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Mugello predictions, practice, and .....-fest

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Rossi words not mine, and he didn't ... hector in the back from what I read.......
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I guess from our armchairs and the few cut aways we got on the feed you could deduce categorically, when considering Hectors involved, Rossi imagined it and/or is lying........
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And he said it would have made little difference anyway.
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There were a number of times on the footage where Rossi (and Hayden for that matter) were behind Barbera but at no point did they seem to be held up by him etc.



Actually the closest I saw to a holding up of Rossi was actually (sorry Jums) Hayden who slowed coming out of a right hand corner (seemingly happy with the run) and did seem to baulk Rossi inadvertently with around 3 minutes to go in the session. The baulk was not that pronounced but the speed differential did make Rossi go hard right (his right) to get around Hayden who had realised and tried to speed up out of the way.



Aside from that, I did not see Barbera even following and reading his comments, he did not feel the need to do so.
 
Mental Anarchist said:
How gutless. Can't even admit when you are wrong. Even a simple acknowledgement that Hayden did not say 1.48.5 in his interview as you claimed would have given you a bit of credibility but no. Nothing but a whining little ......



At least we all know that real fact's and Talpa's view never exist in the same place.
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Must have been the accent
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I heard 148.5 but take your tenth on one lap, we'll see who has the better race pace soon.



And seeing as I'm bothering to reply to you for amusement, let's get back to your original rubbish on effort. Seeing as you seem to have such a strong opinion on it, tell us when was the last time you cut a 1.48.5 around mugello on a desmo motogp prototype to have such an informed opinion on the effort required?



Speaking of effort, hector and hayden also beat a factory Honda yesterday. Based on your standards, lots more effort needs to be put in on one side of the repsol pit, beaten by 2 Ducatis whilst on a factory Honda.....how do you explain this effort if Rossi isn't putting in any effort?



Ben Spies, no effort being put in there it would seem also? What do you think?
 
Rossi is the best efforter effortmaking efforatliser? at making an effort in MGP? is that the latest ?



Which in reality means he isn't trying at all
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.... the Italerary Police!! why don't we get interpol onto it at another circuit!! If Rossi stays at Ducat that is just fraud!! And Ducati will be down to actually selling NO bikes thus no $2M profit on product!! WTF how can that company exist!!!???
 
Talpa said:
Must have been the accent
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" class="bbc_emoticon" src="http://www.powerslide.net/forum/public/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif" /> I heard 148.5 but take your tenth on one lap, we'll see who has the better race pace soon.



And seeing as I'm bothering to reply to you for amusement, let's get back to your original rubbish on effort. Seeing as you seem to have such a strong opinion on it, tell us when was the last time you cut a 1.48.5 around mugello on a desmo motogp prototype to have such an informed opinion on the effort required?



Speaking of effort, hector and hayden also beat a factory Honda yesterday. Based on your standards, lots more effort needs to be put in on one side of the repsol pit, beaten by 2 Ducatis whilst on a factory Honda.....how do you explain this effort if Rossi isn't putting in any effort?



Ben Spies, no effort being put in there it would seem also? What do you think?<
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How pathetic. Can't comment until we have done a 1.48 around Mugello. Shut the forum down. I was taking the piss and winding the likes of you up. Yes it is amusing. But in my opinion Rossi has put in sweet .... all effort since he through the leg over the Ducati. Effort in riding it that is. He has put maximum effort into blaming everyone else as to why he can't ride it whilst the others just get on and change their style to adapt to it and then bust their arse to make the best of it. Rossi has been nothing but a little princess who has said that he is not prepared to push and risk falling and many other things just as bad.



So 2 Ducati's are faster than Stoner. Bloody good on them. Shows how hard they are pushing. Beating Stoner on a Honda is sensational. I take my hat off to them. You do recall less than a week a go having a go at Stoner for pushing too hard don't you? Hmmm, let me get this straight. Now Stoner is not trying hard enough. And you would like us to think of you as rational? Really?
 
Talpa, I don't care how you rationalise Rossi's performance. But when a 9 times world champion on a factory bike is beaten by a guy who receives no plaudits on a bike which Rossi threw in the garbage tells me something is seriously amiss. I'll give you the 3 most likely options & ask you which you think it is (please add another option if you think of a relevant one)



Have Ducati have developed a worse bike than last years with Rossi's input?

Has Rossi lost the pace he once had?

Is Rossi not trying?



I don't want to hear anything about Stoner in your reply as my question has nothing to do with him. Or about tyres, as they all have access to the same tyre & were on the soft during the final minutes of quali. BTW, the only time I seen Rossi & Hayden near Hector was on the lap where Hector went to P2, & he sure wasn't holding them up.
 
Option 4



Rossi and the Duc don't get on. He has no desire break his noggin or nuts for 5th.
 
33 Coupe said:
I don't want to hear anything about Stoner in your reply as my question has nothing to do with him. Or about tyres, as they all have access to the same tyre & were on the soft during the final minutes of quali. BTW, the only time I seen Rossi & Hayden near Hector was on the lap where Hector went to P2, & he sure wasn't holding them up.
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Awww comeon !! at least Talpa has been trying ...... thats some pretty farout stuff he dreams up! I certainly could not dream up a tenth of what Talpa tries to put out there!!



How can we convict Talpa, at least he is putting in a huge effort!
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He's prolifically creative I'll say that!!!
 
I think it's safe to say that no one is getting on with the Ducati, so that still doesn't explain why Rossi is the slowest of them all. If he is an alien & the GOAT, he should be beating the others.
 
5th option: Rossi is just not adaptable and he was born with a silver spoon in his mouth. He needs an easy bike to ride and if he doesn't have it then he gives up, stamps his feet, throws his toys out of his cot and threatens to leave unless everything is changed so that he can have it easy again.
 
Everything Rossi is good today no matter what happens

No one will notice Mugello is Empty
 
33 Coupe said:
I think it's safe to say that no one is getting on with the Ducati, so that still doesn't explain why Rossi is the slowest of them all. If he is an alien & the GOAT, he should be beating the others.
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Absolutely correct.

I have offered my explanation months ago: decline is definitely setting in, but Rossi will be the last to acknowledge that. A young Rossi would have adapted his style to the Ducati, but now he apparently has lost that eagerness and flexibility. Add to that that he went to Ducati when Ducati was in utter stagnation, and you get the picture. An old champ on an old bike... Then he'll always be able to pull off the odd brilliant duel or a decent race when circumstances allow, but that's not the Rossi we knew.
 
As part of any Ducaudi rider salary package they need to provide a 3 round break of fishing for Barra in the top end!!



Anyway, I don't see what the big problem is with Ducaudi, they are just full of passion and sole. and that what we are seeing.



When you purchase a Ducaudi you are buying "the workingmans exotic sportsbike" .......... mainly because a man is always working on them
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33 Coupe said:
I think it's safe to say that no one is getting on with the Ducati, so that still doesn't explain why Rossi is the slowest of them all. If he is an alien & the GOAT, he should be beating the others.
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I started a thread weeks ago saying Rossi was making the bike look bad with his lack of effort but got panned,seems a few a starting to agree.
 
thedeal said:
I started a thread weeks ago saying Rossi was making the bike look bad with his lack of effort but got panned,seems a few a starting to agree.
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You are a funny case. If I'm correct you came on here when quite the Rossi fan. You would have been numerically well accepted.

When you started to express dismay, as a Rossi fan, at some of his behaviors, most non-Rossi fans sat at the side and silently applauded you but dared say aught because you would have immediately copped the wrath of the inanely bopperesqu.

But nevertheless you are what appears to be a disillusioned Rossi fan who tells it as it is ( thats rare for Rossi fans around here ).

You got "panned" by your own ex-type for sure, however what you were saying was of such import that we non-Rossi idolisers would have crueled the impact of what you were saying by having your arguments sallied by association with us,



You have actually been an interesting evolution as a poster.



I applaud you .................... now.



Just be glad it wasn't posthumous
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Actually im a fan of bike racing full stop and as ive stated before Rossi has done amazing things in his career but i think its time to face facts,id like to see the top 8 of moto2 move up and then perhaps we could move forward but there are many reasons why that wont happen,anyway m2 just starting chat later.
 

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