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Anyone recall the ludicrous circumstances of Tamada's disqualification at Motegi?



(I'll wager Jum will, given who stepped onto the block in his place)



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That GP was memorable for many reasons, one of which, we had to wait to become aware.
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(Yes, JH was DQ following 1st turn melee. Talk about inconsistency. Tamada/Gibers, overreaction.)
 

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He could not have completed the pass without going off the track. How else to say it? If he'd made that same pass

and stayed on the track - it would have been legit (not to mention a miracle of physics).

No, you mean he could not have held the lead without going off ! That under the rules is not gaining an advanbtage by cutting a corner.
 
No, you mean he could not have held the lead without going off ! That under the rules is not gaining an advanbtage by cutting a corner.



Yah... I think I know what I meant mate. I will grant you that Rossi probably did not pre-meditate going off the track

to take the position. Hence his move being referred to as a "racing incident" - but in the heat of the moment - he

badly miscalculated the likelihood of completing the pass. Nonetheless since he was - by the laws of physics - obligated

to depart from the circuit in order to gain the position - it really wasn't a legit pass.
 
No, you mean he could not have held the lead without going off ! That under the rules is not gaining an advanbtage by cutting a corner.





So now you are saying Rossi had the lead into the corner?



So in fact "the pass" was not a pass
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Pure Rog. again
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Yah... I think I know what I meant mate. I will grant you that Rossi probably did not pre-meditate going off the track

to take the position. Hence his move being referred to as a "racing incident" - but in the heat of the moment - he

badly miscalculated the likelihood of completing the pass. Nonetheless since he was - by the laws of physics - obligated

to depart from the circuit in order to gain the position - it really wasn't a legit pass.

it would have to take one deluded fan to even try and debate that rossi planned that line
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He was clearly not in full control hence schwantz comment about why didn't stoner hang back and let rossi crash
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Why do we argue about the passes that make a race exciting and memerable ? jerez05, guna 08, now motegi
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it would have to take one deluded fan to even try and debate that rossi planned that line
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He was clearly not in full control hence schwantz comment about why didn't stoner hang back and let rossi crash
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Why do we argue about the passes that make a race exciting and memerable ? jerez05, guna 08, now motegi
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Exactly. The argument at the time was that if moves like this were not allowed to be attempted then we would have no racing at all, in which case the engineers might as well control the bikes remotely from the pits which would seem to be their preference.



My main argument since quite soon after the race, and only argument now, is that whether or not stoner should have complained (fairly clearly for several reasons he should not have) he was not the complete whinger he was portrayed to be in this instance, as rossi did change lines on him twice, which it has been argued was why rossi was justified in complaining about elias, although I share your view that it was not deliberate in rossi"s case.
 
So ..... where was the pass?
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They keep calling it a pass and yet they then say Rossi was allways in front ..........
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At least Rossi was being honest when he called it a mistake ( which I agree with ... nothing more nothing less ) Rossi just lost controlat one point then returned onto the track ...... no pass occurred. Its just the boppers don't want to accept that, so they continue calling it a pass ..... even though they then go on to say no position was swapped.
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Its all just more feelgood fairytales thats all, to cover up that their idol rode pretty poorly and was lucky to not take them both out.
 
So ..... where was the pass?
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They keep calling it a pass and yet they then say Rossi was allways in front ..........
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At least Rossi was being honest when he called it a mistake ( which I agree with ... nothing more nothing less ) Rossi just lost controlat one point then returned onto the track ...... no pass occurred. Its just the boppers don't want to accept that, so they continue calling it a pass ..... even though they then go on to say no position was swapped.
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Its all just more feelgood fairytales thats all, to cover up that their idol rode pretty poorly and was lucky to not take them both out.

Sorry, we agree it wasn't a pass.
 
So ..... where was the pass?
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They keep calling it a pass and yet they then say Rossi was allways in front ..........
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At least Rossi was being honest when he called it a mistake ( which I agree with ... nothing more nothing less ) Rossi just lost controlat one point then returned onto the track ...... no pass occurred. Its just the boppers don't want to accept that, so they continue calling it a pass ..... even though they then go on to say no position was swapped.
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Its all just more feelgood fairytales thats all, to cover up that their idol rode pretty poorly and was lucky to not take them both out.





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That statement alone should bury you in this instance.



If it were a mistake(the carrying too much speed part was the only mistake), then it was equally a mistake of stoners for being so far up rossi's ... that he couldnt pass. Had stoner had the forsight then he could have cruised past if handled right.



I cant wait to see people start cutting into the dirt in practise to get an advantage....



Hell these guys avoid dusty parts of the track never mind dirty.



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And we accept it alright...the win that is
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That statement alone should bury you in this instance.



If it were a mistake(the carrying too much speed part was the only mistake), then it was equally a mistake of stoners for being so far up rossi's ... that he couldnt pass. Had stoner had the forsight then he could have cruised past if handled right.



I cant wait to see people start cutting into the dirt in practise to get an advantage....



Hell these guys avoid dusty parts of the track never mind dirty.



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And we accept it alright...the win that is
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Maybe there's something in it, Max helped Rossi's speed significantly when he ushered him into the dirt back when the stroke was 2 and the smoke was blue
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A classic bird, probably 'the' classic bird followed.



Wonder why they didn't disqualify Max for that, Hmmmmmm...... Maybe Dorna was secretly trying to protect Max and keep the Money rolling in.
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This one passed me by. Watched the first episode last night. What a find!

Powers kinda reminds me of Rog with a peckerwood accent.
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Kenny Powers even looks a bit like Rog, well at least in silhouette of him anyway.
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So ..... where was the pass?
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They keep calling it a pass and yet they then say Rossi was allways in front ..........
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At least Rossi was being honest when he called it a mistake ( which I agree with ... nothing more nothing less ) Rossi just lost controlat one point then returned onto the track ...... no pass occurred. Its just the boppers don't want to accept that, so they continue calling it a pass ..... even though they then go on to say no position was swapped.
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Its all just more feelgood fairytales thats all, to cover up that their idol rode pretty poorly and was lucky to not take them both out.





simple fact is lorenzo didnt like to loose and you keep moaning about rossi's moves on the track, to educate yourself abit go to youtube and look at some of lorenzo's antics on a 250.... plenty of times he swapped paint and almost taken out other riders....... like rossi said it was agressive racing, no different from what lorenzo has done in the past....
 
simple fact is lorenzo didnt like to loose and you keep moaning about rossi's moves on the track, to educate yourself abit go to youtube and look at some of lorenzo's antics on a 250.... plenty of times he swapped paint and almost taken out other riders....... like rossi said it was agressive racing, no different from what lorenzo has done in the past....



We don't have to go back all the way to 250's, just watch Jerez race this year again.
 
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