Misano 2010 -- Predictions - Practice - Quali Thread

[J4rn0]

MotoGP Race Classification

Misano Adriatico, Sunday, September 06, 2009





1 25 46 Valentino ROSSI ITA Fiat Yamaha Team Yamaha 159,4 44'32.882

2 20 99 Jorge LORENZO SPA Fiat Yamaha Team Yamaha 159,2 +2.416

3 16 3 Dani PEDROSA SPA Repsol Honda Team Honda 158,6 +12.400

4 13 4 Andrea DOVIZIOSO ITA Repsol Honda Team Honda 157,8 +26.330

5 11 65 Loris CAPIROSSI ITA Rizla Suzuki MotoGP Suzuki 157,8 +26.539

6 10 24 Toni ELIAS SPA San Carlo Honda Gresini Honda 157,7 +28.286

7 9 36 Mika KALLIO FIN Ducati Marlboro Team Ducati 157,6 +30.184

8 8 33 Marco MELANDRI ITA Hayate Racing Team Kawasaki 157,5 +31.757

9 7 7 Chris VERMEULEN AUS Rizla Suzuki MotoGP Suzuki 157,5 +31.909

10 6 52 James TOSELAND GBR Monster Yamaha Tech 3 Yamaha 157,1 +38.347

11 5 44 Aleix ESPARGARO SPA Pramac Racing Ducati 156,6 +46.673

12 4 14 Randy DE PUNIET FRA LCR Honda MotoGP Honda 156,3 +52.041

13 3 88 Niccolo CANEPA ITA Pramac Racing Ducati 155,7 +1'03.198

14 2 41 Gabor TALMACSI HUN Scot Racing Team MotoGP Honda 154,6 +1'22.347

Not started

15 Alex DE ANGELIS RSM San Carlo Honda Gresini Honda 0 Giro

5 Colin EDWARDS USA Monster Yamaha Tech 3 Yamaha 0 Giro

69 Nicky HAYDEN USA Ducati Marlboro Team Ducati 0 Giro



Meteo 2009:

Dry| Air: 24º| Humidity: 32%| Ground: 41º

Record:

Pole: Valentino ROSSI 1'34.338 161,3 Km/h

Fast Lap: 16 Valentino ROSSI 1'34.746 160,6 Km/h

Circuit Record: 2009 Valentino ROSSI 1'34.746 160,6 Km/h

Fastest Lap: 2008 Casey STONER 1'33.378 162,9 Km/h



Meteo Forecast for next weekend:

Friday: Cloudy

Saturday and Sunday: Sunshine, around 25°C, humidity 60-70%

 

[J4rn0]

Let's start the predictions:



I'm almost tired of (wishfully?) predicting wins by Stoner, but I'll give him a chance for next Sunday as well:



1. Stoner

2. Lorenzo

3. Rossi



Pole: Stoner

 

[michaelm]

Let's start the predictions:



I'm almost tired of (wishfully?) predicting wins by Stoner, but I'll give him a chance for next Sunday as well:



1. Stoner

2. Lorenzo

3. Rossi



Pole: Stoner

My only prediction was going to be that stoner won't win.

 

[bonnielass]

Misano is always a good one for ROSSI, injuries aside, I think he's in with a good chance of winning this one, and with the speed of the 2 Hondas and apparently Spies Yam, I think stoner will be out of the picture...........So



1. ROSSI



2. Pedro



3. Lorenzo



4. Dovi



5. Spies

 

[DRILL]

No predictions for me this week,all I want to see is Spies continuing the steady climb and Nicky keeping it together.

 

[J4rn0]

Certainly, should Spies be in the top 5 at Misano as well, that would mean he's really ready for prime time.

At Indy he took a few points away from Lorenzo -- nothing to worry about in actual terms, but psychologically, should that happen again, it will be interesting to see how Jorge reacts -- if he keeps his cool or not.

 

[J4rn0]

A NICE ARTICLE FROM GPONE.COM:



Is it boredom or nostalgia?



Monday, 30 August 2010 15:30

by Nereo Balanzin





Some people are calling this a boring championship season. A rookie (Ben Spies) was on pole yesterday, and that doesn't happen all too often. It is even less common to see a satellite bike on the pole. Honda has been struggling the past few years, but they have upped their game in 2010 and built a bike with possibly the best engine on the grid. Dani Pedrosa has had dominant wins before, but never more than two in a single season; he has now scored his third of the year, and there are still several races remaining for him to add to that total. Jorge Lorenzo, after two seasons of pushing the limit, and often exceeding it, is now on a consistent and authoritative march towards the championship, reminiscent of a certain Valentino. Valentino, for his part, having just recently broken the record for consecutive GP starts, was suddenly and unexpectedly forced to miss four races due to injury. And there are four Italians out on track, at times there was even a fifth, so there is certainly plenty for the Italian fans to root for.



Still, many still have the impressing that this has been a boring championship. Maybe that is because we aren't seeing what we expect to see; that is, another year of Valentino dominating the field as he has so many times in the past. Or, the second choice, that after a four race rehabilitation period Rossi would come back and immediately reinstate the old hierarchy. Maybe with some heroics like we saw in years past at Laguna Seca or Barcelona.



The fact that Rossi, coming back form a serious injury, was not able to immediately reclaim the top spot, is a sign of just how healthy the series actually is. If he was able to walk all over the competition with just one leg, then we would have to endure a situation where one rider is so superior to the rest that nobody is even capable of challenging him. Instead Rossi has his hands full, and his admission on Sunday ("to beat Lorenzo will take patience and hard work") sums up the situation perfectly. A new champion is on the scene, and he deserves to be in the position he currently finds himself, as he worked extremely hard to get there.



The point is that we (all of us, including those who complained when he was cruising to championships unhindered) are all Valentino's orphans. We miss him. We miss our usual Sunday dosage, his way of doing things, his ability to put things into perspective, his commentary. But, that said, this championship season has been no more boring than the rest. It isn't exactly a barn burner, but we have seen much worse.



As for the immediate future, at Misano and the following races, we should keep in mind what Valentino added just after the statement above (that patience and work were needed to beat Jorge): "and my team knows how to work," he said. "And I know how to ride," he added.



We'll talk again after Misano, as the fans are making their way home.

 

[Pigeon]

Misano JB With Rossi

Stona crew to Honda



anybody for the win except a Yam & Honda rider its needed

 

[projectmorf]

Its Misano, So;



1. The Doctor



2. Gorgeous George



3. Pedrobot



4. Big Ben



DNF: Stacey Moaner.

 

[povol]

#1 Lorenzo



#2 Rossi



#3 Pedro



#4 Spies



#5 Stoner



#6 Hayden



#7 Dovi

 

[mylexicon]

A NICE ARTICLE FROM GPONE.COM:



Is it boredom or nostalgia?



Monday, 30 August 2010 15:30

by Nereo Balanzin





Some people are calling this a boring championship season.

It's Rossi and a handful of ex-champs and 500cc legends who say the sport is boring. Mr. Balanzin is wasting his time. If rider of the past and present say that electronics are making the sport a mockery, their advice should be headed, imo. How could anyone who witnessed a 500cc or 990 MotoGP race play the devil's advocate anyway? As Rossi says himself, the excitement of the contest and the fierce battles was the one ace up the sleeve that MotoGP has always been able to rely on for viewership. The high-quality of the racing product has been casually discarded by two manufacturers (Yamaha and Honda) who've forgotten why they started building motorcycles in the first place. They want to work on partial throttle fuel efficiency. I can't believe they would even say partial throttle fuel efficiency out loud. The MSMA is hopeless, and Japanese engineers could suck the fun out of a night at the Playboy mansion.



We are talking about MOTORCYCLES. How have we reached the point where people are divesting from MotoGP and fans are seriously contemplating shutting the TV off for good. It's not just MotoGP either, it's nearly every motorcycle road racing series on the planet. BSB broke. AMA super broke. WSBK is rich but hemorrhaging private teams (and losing Ducati). MotoGP is broke besides Honda. Even to the untrained eye, it appears that the industry is nothing more than a tower of cards built by the manufacturers with consumer credit. How has this happened?



What class is expanding, and making new plans to improve the racing and the technical variety of machinery? Moto2---the class with no major manufacturers, and spec electronics. WSBK ain't in bad shape either. It also has engine speed limits and electronic regulations.



Am I missing something? Is there some tidbit of information that makes a convoluted nightmare out of the impossibly simple world of motorcycle racing entertainment?

 

[mylexicon]

My predictions:



MotoGP:



1-5: Don't care. I'm only looking forward to seeing Stoner on a Honda next year. Rossi to Ducati is a substance-less media circus, but I hope he still has some magic left in the bag.



Moto2



1-10: I have no idea and I can't wait to see what is going to happen. Looking forward to the new engine rules they have been discussing. Optimistic about possible participation by an American. And so on

 

[Arrabbiata1]

Simoncelli's from a spit away - remember De Angelis last year...scary.

 

[povol]

It's Rossi and a handful of ex-champs and 500cc legends who say the sport is boring. Mr. Balanzin is wasting his time. If rider of the past and present say that electronics are making the sport a mockery, their advice should be headed, imo. How could anyone who witnessed a 500cc or 990 MotoGP race play the devil's advocate anyway? As Rossi says himself, the excitement of the contest and the fierce battles was the one ace up the sleeve that MotoGP has always been able to rely on for viewership. The high-quality of the racing product has been casually discarded by two manufacturers (Yamaha and Honda) who've forgotten why they started building motorcycles in the first place. They want to work on partial throttle fuel efficiency. I can't believe they would even say partial throttle fuel efficiency out loud. The MSMA is hopeless, and Japanese engineers could suck the fun out of a night at the Playboy mansion.



We are talking about MOTORCYCLES. How have we reached the point where people are divesting from MotoGP and fans are seriously contemplating shutting the TV off for good. It's not just MotoGP either, it's nearly every motorcycle road racing series on the planet. BSB broke. AMA super broke. WSBK is rich but hemorrhaging private teams (and losing Ducati). MotoGP is broke besides Honda. Even to the untrained eye, it appears that the industry is nothing more than a tower of cards built by the manufacturers with consumer credit. How has this happened?



What class is expanding, and making new plans to improve the racing and the technical variety of machinery? Moto2---the class with no major manufacturers, and spec electronics. WSBK ain't in bad shape either. It also has engine speed limits and electronic regulations.



Am I missing something? Is there some tidbit of information that makes a convoluted nightmare out of the impossibly simple world of motorcycle racing entertainment?

Until you can confirm that as more than a personal opinion, please stop stating it as fact.

 

[mylexicon]

Until you can confirm that as more than a personal opinion, please stop stating it as fact.

Your knowledge or lack thereof does not determine fact. If I were you, I'd be preparing a statement to explain why you didn't know it existed even after someone told you.

 

[povol]

Your knowledge or lack thereof does not determine fact. If I were you, I'd be preparing a statement to explain why you didn't know it existed even after someone told you.

Nor does your opinion

 

[frosty58]

1. lorenzo

2. rossi

3. pedrosa

 

[xx CURVE xx]

does Rossi have to ride the M1 600?

 

[FACTORY]

A NICE ARTICLE FROM GPONE.COM:



Is it boredom or nostalgia?



Monday, 30 August 2010 15:30

by Nereo Balanzin





Some people are calling this a boring championship season. A rookie (Ben Spies) was on pole yesterday, and that doesn't happen all too often. It is even less common to see a satellite bike on the pole. Honda has been struggling the past few years, but they have upped their game in 2010 and built a bike with possibly the best engine on the grid. Dani Pedrosa has had dominant wins before, but never more than two in a single season; he has now scored his third of the year, and there are still several races remaining for him to add to that total. Jorge Lorenzo, after two seasons of pushing the limit, and often exceeding it, is now on a consistent and authoritative march towards the championship, reminiscent of a certain Valentino. Valentino, for his part, having just recently broken the record for consecutive GP starts, was suddenly and unexpectedly forced to miss four races due to injury. And there are four Italians out on track, at times there was even a fifth, so there is certainly plenty for the Italian fans to root for.



Still, many still have the impressing that this has been a boring championship. Maybe that is because we aren't seeing what we expect to see; that is, another year of Valentino dominating the field as he has so many times in the past. Or, the second choice, that after a four race rehabilitation period Rossi would come back and immediately reinstate the old hierarchy. Maybe with some heroics like we saw in years past at Laguna Seca or Barcelona.



The fact that Rossi, coming back form a serious injury, was not able to immediately reclaim the top spot, is a sign of just how healthy the series actually is. If he was able to walk all over the competition with just one leg, then we would have to endure a situation where one rider is so superior to the rest that nobody is even capable of challenging him. Instead Rossi has his hands full, and his admission on Sunday ("to beat Lorenzo will take patience and hard work") sums up the situation perfectly. A new champion is on the scene, and he deserves to be in the position he currently finds himself, as he worked extremely hard to get there.



The point is that we (all of us, including those who complained when he was cruising to championships unhindered) are all Valentino's orphans. We miss him. We miss our usual Sunday dosage, his way of doing things, his ability to put things into perspective, his commentary. But, that said, this championship season has been no more boring than the rest. It isn't exactly a barn burner, but we have seen much worse.



As for the immediate future, at Misano and the following races, we should keep in mind what Valentino added just after the statement above (that patience and work were needed to beat Jorge): "and my team knows how to work," he said. "And I know how to ride," he added.



We'll talk again after Misano, as the fans are making their way home.

I think the season has lived up to the expectations with the new rules....the spec tire, fuel limit, major electronics, and now engine limit. It was supposed to be a show down between Lorenzo and Rossi carried over from last year, and then Mugello attacked Rossi. The real excitement was now Rossi breaking his leg and seeing if he would return and in top form.....then his announcement to switch to Ducati. Spies getting pole this year on a sat bike as a rookie was really awesome, but I was more impressed with Stoner doing that same feat on a more powerful, less electronic controlled bike with a prototype tire he tested and chose. He did this in his 2nd MotoGP race and with probably less support than Spies is getting from Yamaha (since Lorenzo has all but clinched the title and Rossi has one foot out the door).



IMO the electronics have brought the grid closer together creating more "aliens". Don't get me wrong, Spies is a fantastic rider and will be great, but is he really Rossi/Lorenzo/Pedrosa/Stoner level right now on a true Tech 3 spec bike "with only a couple factory upgrades". I think the engine limit is nowshowing it's ugly head and the top guys will ride now to get max points without blowing up or risk crashing out to screw themselves out of the current race points and the following race points from busting up their last engine.....Spies has nothing to loose running full tilt, but everything to gain. Indy was a great example of this.



I predict Rossi, Pedrosa, Lorenzo, Stoner, Spies/Hayden.....and Capirossi to complete 5 laps.

 

[chopperman]

Doctor

Dovi

Pedro

Lorenzo

Capi

spies

stoner

hayden

randy

melandri