<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (gsfan @ Feb 28 2009, 05:03 PM)
<{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>You can't say that Rossi didn't cause Stoners fall and say Stoner caused Hopper/Hayden's fall. One or the other.
Are you having trouble reading the English language? I did say Rossi brake-checked Stoner (Laguna 08). What don't you understand about cause and effect? Whether its intentional or not, it still sets into motion a set of consequences. Stoner missed the apex of the hairpin (Laguna 07) causing disruption in his wake. This is why John finished 15th, NOT what you were alluding to, and that was that he finished 15th because he sucked. (Try to keep up).
So, uhm yeah, I'm having it both ways. Its called
consistency in logic, something that you're obviously lacking.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE <div class='quotemain'>It was
not at all soley Kurtis's fault he was at the back.
How the bike got through tech I'll never know. US builder on US soil in front of a US crowd?
Your entire rant smacks of
Schizophrenia, you might want to get that checked out while watching Dr. Phil. Here you say it was not soley Kurtis' fault, but below you declare it was his fault. Get some help!
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE <div class='quotemain'>To be clear I was calling Kurtis "where the .... on the track am I" because he was on the racing line and
the accident was his fault because of it. That can't be construed as me thinking he was in general a ...... rider I was just commenting on that situation.
Roger, I don't know why I didn't see it earlier, but you nailed it man. This guy is all those things you called him....perhaps a bit more.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE <div class='quotemain'>You think Hopper was full of praise for the GS? The tension between Denning and him suggests otherwise.
Well gfan, you're the one obsessed with Suzuki, so you would know its not that great of a machine. So not giving praise is honest, but the point here is, its a world
different than bad mouthing publicly and declaring you're not gonna try anymore. I'm thinking you can't tell the difference, and here the difference is not that subtle. I suspect the "tension" came from private conversation of John telling Denning, get the bike together, Denning, loving the statis quo didn't give him any assurances. So John left. Quite different than publicly airing out your laundry then throwing in the towel (at least in words).
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Marketability is why your boy Hayden primarily has his ride and don't forget it. Seems like slight hypocrisy to me. Marco is talented and takes on the project and fails so he is mentally weak but still
mysteriously very marketable. Hayden, a mediocre talent, takes on the project and is eminently marketable and yet you are beside yourself with worry that he will fail. Projection of your fears of Hayden failing onto Marco in the form of anger at his failure maybe? Oh ya,
I've seenDr. Phil buddy. Well go watch Marco finish him in Turkey where Hayden didn't have the mental toughness to stick it inside him at the last corner therby losing the race.
Interesting. So Hayden wins a title in the big leagues, then he is picked up by Ducati and this was gifted because of "marketability"? (As you say, he was picked up even though he is "mediocre". Uhm, then you say winning is marketable? Wait, wait, you're doing it again, get your split personalities in order man. So is Hayden there because he won a world championship or is he there because he is marketable? (See how stupid you sound?)
There is no "mystery" about Marco's marketability. He is from a place that values motorcycle racing, who like Hopper, hasn't won a premiere world title. Both about the same in talent, Marco having the benefit of a better Honda at the time; but you of course point to results without factoring in the
nature of the series. (Again, very elementary analysis).
Oh, and as far as Turkey, Marco won the race, Hayden won the title, uhm... (ah forget it, I may just waste more time trying to explain the difference).
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE <div class='quotemain'>It remains to be seen if he
will regain his former mental toughness. I hope he does. We need guys like him that can race at the front for the good of the series. Backmarkers are a dime a dozen.
Do you see what you did here? You just conceded that Marco's "mental toughness" may return ("will regain"). So then you agree with me that it has been lacking (why else would you say it remain seen if it will "regain" if its not lost somewhere?) Yet most of your rant was trying to convince me otherwise. That pretty crazy! Anyway, next time you're watching Dr. Phil, feel free to call in, they have a number they put up at the end of the show for people who want to be on the show. You may want to get that Schizophrenia checked out.
Roger, you were right.