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Many Journo's are clueless,here's my take on VR vs MM!

Lorenzo's strength is fast starts and consistent lap times, Rossi's is handling tyre wear and riding accordingly. That's how it is! 2 different styles, but that doesn't mean he's there to be interrupted because Marquez hates losing! Also I want hard evidence of this Pedrosa don't race me hard nonsense, who made that up??!!
 
Lorenzo's strength is fast starts and consistent lap times, Rossi's is handling tyre wear and riding accordingly. That's how it is! 2 different styles, but that doesn't mean he's there to be interrupted because Marquez hates losing! Also I want hard evidence of this Pedrosa don't race me hard nonsense, who made that up??!!

Exactly my point, both concerning the riders' different styles, and the PI speculation, except you know who made that up.
 
He praised Pedrosa in Aragon and he praised Ianonne in P.I!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

In public yes, behind closed doors it has been widely reported from reputable sources that he questioned their motives.



His problem with Marquez is him ....... around with race pace and manipulating Rossi's pace.

Hard evidence? You ask for it, so come on show it for this.

It's wrong and it's shocking, I hope Marquez has a really big crash sometime soon and is out of action, he's wild, dangerous and gives zero ..... for anyone else. Riders used to moan about Super Sic being aggressive, Marquez is wildly beyond that, he will have a big one soon and I look forward to it!!!

You're an ......., on 2 separate threads you've said the same thing and are therefore not worthy of any more responses after this post.

Also I want hard evidence of this Pedrosa don't race me hard nonsense, who made that up??!!

When you show hard evidence to support your accusation that MMwas manipulating VR's race pace, I'll get you hard evidence for the above (and I do have it)

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I see, you are right because you are correct.

Yes Valentino Rossi is a legend, Lorenzo aspires to be one. If he wins this year he has 5 titles, and has further opportunity to get closer to 9 before he turns 36, which I suspect neither he nor MM will manage btw.

No one on here is a legend very obviously in comparison with these guys, but nor are you, and you seem quite happy to vilify the aforementioned MM, and probably Lorenzo, yourself. Having amply demonstrated that despite being a legend in your own mind you can't prosecute your case, you have turned to argumentum ad hominem as is common from those of your ilk in that circumstance, which you pretty much did from your second post actually.

I have never been a Rossi hater previously, and blamed his crazy fans of your ilk for the campaigns of vilification against every rival he has ever had, even Tony Elias who was a rival for all of 2 races, but begin to appreciate in the last week that Valentino is more than happy to orchestrate such campaigns.
 
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Sometime I always think maybe really we being FAN are the bad ... that make up so many funny idea that make the story go worst.

Let do it. Forget what people did bad and who is wrong and who is ... hole.... Forget all those damn thing. Work on and believe in the good time. What they did great. I Hope VR get WC10.... that is good for him and what he did good is more than what he did bad. So let get him some Legend status for the sake of sport. MM ... let hope one day he can challenge the uphill task. Easy to get is never precious. So MM believe in urself and I believe you too. Same goes to Lorenzo. You have a long fight with MM. go for it brother. Both of you should not worry VR as he will retire soon. So you will have time to drive with more passion.

Please LOVE the SPORT and raise the SPIRIT. Enough on forum who is wrong..... GOD BLESS MOTOGP !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Well wrote

Well.....Where do we start?!! Firstly Julian Ryder and Keith Huewen are ridiculously awful on BT Sports.... I can't believe they profess to be 'experts' in their field......

Ok I am a Rossi fan, but I believe I'm a very fair one who considers all aspects of Motogp. Rossi ''was'' on the verge of a remarkable 10th World title after 2 years in the wilderness at Ducati and 1 tough year in his first season back at Yamaha. Everyone slated him for axing Jeremy Burgess saying he's searching for something and he's simply lost it at his ripe old age and should bow out gracefully..... He then clearly finds his way again which he knew was possible and finishes 2nd to an unbelievable Marquez, no mean feat in itself!

So he's had the upper hand on Lorenzo(No. 1 rider) in 2014, now on the verge of winning a ridiculous 10th title with unbelievable consistency in 2015. Lorenzo at this point is thinking(f**k me this can't be happening! I'm the No.1 rider...) Then Marquez also thinks Hmmm he's outdone me this year(cheated me out of the title) and if he wins title number 10, I need one more extra to be the GOAT AND he's still around next year and beyond, oh no.....!

In my opinion Marquez has got a point about the Argentina crash, even I as a Rossi fan believe there's a 90% chance Vale did see Marquez's vulnerable front wheel lurking next to his rear wheel when he glanced to his right knowing there's only one winner in that fight, so executed a small movement to the right of a normal line to clash with Marquez...and the reason being Marquez disgustingly rammed Vale up the arse after his pass in the right hander and Vale thought 'ok pal is that how it is eh!!' Bamm!

Assen on the other hand is a totally no questions win for Vale with Marquez angry at Rossi's perfect position and late braking to cover all possibilities of a Marquez triumph even when Marquez tried the 'Bulldozer'!!

People should take note that Rossi gave Pedrosa glowing praise in Aragon for their battle and praised Ianonne in P.I. Close racing is welcomed by all including Rossi if it's out and out best position racing from all parties, Marquez's slow qiuick slow quick manipulating isn't racing in anyones book and he's been a disgrace for doing it(twice).

So....... Marquez should accept defeat this season, take stock and see he's been taught a lesson and bring the fight to Rossi head to head in 2016. You should NEVER intentionally ruin a title contenders chances because you can't accept losing!! Marquez is a terrible loser, Rossi has ALWAYS been magnanimous in defeat, he'll hate it BUT accept it!!

No question has Marquez played games in Phillip Island, to make over 1.1 seconds on the final lap of a race after 'overheating the front' is absolute boll**ks. No other Honda riders complained of the issue, Marquez undoubtedly had the pace to disappear into the distance! Rossi also did 7 laps faster than Lorenzo showing clearly enough pace to take 2nd position, but Marquez decided to YoYo his lap times to keep a gap between Lorenzo and Rossi, once achieved he put the hammer down with a 'miracle' last lap! A disgraceful tactic to manipulate the championship outcome!

So! Rossi so enraged he decides to make it clear in the press conference, then it's all 'mind games' according to most press. Rossi is obviously really worried about being cheated out of a 10th title and rightfully so after so much hard work! So wants the spotlight on Marquez to diffuse another dirty game before it happens! Marquez clearly upset for being found out decides to do it even worse in Sepang knowing unless any rules are broken he's ok to proceed with it. As Michael Laverty said, the unwritten rule is not to mess with title contenders races, not by any means does that mean 'move over' it just means race for your best result but don't get overly aggressive around riders with so much at stake. Marquez ignores all etiquette and winds Rossi up to breaking point as he sees Lorenzo disappear again for the 2nd time, so here we are now with Rossi's chances shot! I don't agree with what Rossi did, but in the circumstances I understand it, and if he hadn't a nasty crash was inevitable!!

For me new rules need to be put in place for ex-racers or experts to analyse lap to lap data and cross reference with other identical bikes to see a rider is playing fair or playing 'dirty'. For me if something doesn't happen this is the start of something really really bad in a sport so so great!

Sportsmanship has to prevail or you'll possibly not get a worthy champion in many cases in the future, which no one wants to see! For me if Lorenzo wins the title it will be forever tainted although he may have beaten Rossi on a level playing field. Now we'll never know! As for Marquez, I think he's done himself irreparable damage, Rossi has and always will be the golden boy of MotoGP, his wrong doing in Sepang will be forgotten by many. This whole situation started from Marquez calling Rossi a cheat in Assen!!!

Well wrote and I feel exactly the same but as always on this forum you will be shot down like all Rossi fans as we know nothing about motogp according to the experts here. Nice read.
 
Shut the .... up, OP. In 2010 Motegi Rossi did the exact same thing as Marquez did last race. In fact, Rossi was even much harsher to Lorenzo in 2010, see minute 4:44



Secondly, good you admit Rossi smashed MM from the circuit in Argentina. He also cheated in Assen. The proof ? The same video I just posted, minute 4:44. Lorenzo was ahead of Rossi but Rossi didn't brake but just continued just like MM did in Assen. But as usual there are 2 set of rules, one set for everyone except Rossi; and the emty set of rules for Rossi. Rossi basically ...... up MM's championship. And MM will return him the favour in Valencia.

For the rest, your story just sucks. But is good as a bedtime story for Italian children in the year 2075.

By the way, on Spansih TV (la sexta) they claimed that 3 Italian drivers have said that they will let Rossi pass when he gets to them. That's what Rossi likes. He wants to get the championship gifted. He wants all riders to let him pass. That's why he put pressure on Marquez in the press conference. But he didn't succeed. By the way, I hope the Spanish riders do the same for Lorenzo. Pedrosa and Marquez should not be fighting for the championship according to Rossi, so they shouldn't intervene with a Lorenzo victory :giggle:
 
Well wrote and I feel exactly the same but as always on this forum you will be shot down like all Rossi fans as we know nothing about motogp according to the experts here. Nice read.

Cheers bigt46! I'm glad someone see's things for what they are like I do!

Apparently it started going .... up between VR and MM when MM went to the ranch with his team after the Misano race and treated it as the dirt track world championship rather than competitive fun.... Riled a few there apparently not just VR.....

It's a shame because them seemingly getting on well yet battling hard on track was nice to see! But I have to side with VR on this one, no mind games here just plain truth that Marquez can't lose at anything!! If he bought a lottery ticket and lost he'd commit suicide!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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Cheers bigt46! I'm glad someone see's things for what they are like I do!

Apparently it started going .... up between VR and MM when MM went to the ranch with his team after the Misano race and treated it as the dirt track world championship rather than competitive fun.... Riled a few there apparently not just VR.....

It's a shame because them seemingly getting on well yet battling hard on track was nice to see! But I have to side with VR on this one, no mind games here just plain truth that Marquez can't lose at anything!! If he bought a lottery ticket and lost he'd commit suicide!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You Rossi fanboys are hilarious. Thanks for brighting up my friday evening with this funny post :giggle:
 
Anything you ever post on this forum I will remind everyone you wanted Marquez to be in a hospital fighting for his life. Which may serve to increase your popularity given many who perhaps may share your sentiments.

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Those statements were made purely to wind up pricks like you......... Id never wish any injury on anyone, not even my worst enemy..... But you cocks were so disrespectful to my original post I had to wind you up, and I succeeded!!

This forum is full of cocks but never mind seen some good guys with good comments here so I shall sift through the good stuff! :D
 
Those statements were made purely to wind up pricks like you......... Id never wish any injury on anyone, not even my worst enemy..... But you cocks were so disrespectful to my original post I had to wind you up, and I succeeded!!
Bah, disgusting. Wishing your opponent in hospital. The only people that ever wrote such horrible wishes to other drivers were Rossi fans.
 

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