Louis Salom passed away in crash

pyeman · Jun 4, 2016

Jumkie said:
Maybe that's why all those other cultures are .....

Doesn't this mean that other cultures are good then?,John Kocinski once famously stated "If you ain't American,you ain't ....'',help me out here,I'm confused.

Jumkie · Jun 4, 2016

pyeman said:
Doesn't this mean that other cultures are good then?,John Kocinski once famously stated "If you ain't American,you ain't ....'',help me out here,I'm confused.

Sorry Pye, I miss spelled "vultures" I accidentally wrote "cultures". It should read:

"Maybe that's why all those other vultures eat ....."

Anyway, here's a good read:

https://motomatters.com/analysis/2016/06/05/2016_barcelona_saturday_round_up_dealing.html

Cool Blue · Jun 5, 2016

Mick D said:
I think it has to do with the age of the cultures... US culture is going through things for the first or second time that other, older, cultures have seen repeated throughout their long histories many times. Seeing issues for the first or second time you tend to think, 'ah, here's what's wrong, I can fix this.' Seeing the same issue for the 100th time you tend to think, 'ah, this is how the world works, I can't fix human nature so, c'est la vie.'

I hadn't heard of this stereotype about the U.S. before, can you give some examples? It seems like the "news" media in the U.S. is a disproportionately large industry compared to Europe for example. I don't know why but maybe it's driven by new money special interest groups? The culture in that space is often specious, vicious, conveniently disingenuous and opinionated. Hard to watch if your a reasonable person and not necessarily representative of the broader culture. Is this where the view is coming from?

libby · Jun 5, 2016

I am horrified and so sad to read of Luis's death , we met him in Texas at the friday evening dinner he was there with his team and stood up and talked for a bit , we got his autograph and had a chat he was lovely , but thats racing....

imunderandoverit · Jun 5, 2016

MdubSTYLIE said:
With the f1 never using that layout I don't understand why that bit of tarmac was laid. This should have never happened.

Cuz F1 was using that part before it became a chicane in 2007.

JPSLotus · Jun 6, 2016

Salom's team says asphalt bump was the cause of his crash.

Luis Salom's SAG team says the bump at Turn 12 of the Circuit de Barcelona-Catalunya contributed to the crash in which the Spanish rider was killed.

Salom lost control at the corner during second practice on Friday, falling and hitting his bike after it had impacted against the barriers.

Despite the best efforts of MotoGP's medical team and the staff at Hospital General de Catalunya,
the 24-year-old rider passed away.

On Monday, the SAG team issued a statement after having analysed the telemetry from Salom's bike.

The team said on the lap of the accident, Salom had left his braking later than on previous laps, leading to reaching the Turn 12 bump at a higher speed.

That meant the front tyre lost grip, resulting in the crash.

"At the entry of the corner there is an irregularity on the asphalt known by all the riders [the bump]," said the team in a statement.

"The delay in the braking made Luis keep the brakes on while running over that asphalt irregularity, as opposed to the previous laps, where he had already released the brakes at that point

"That, added to the same speed as his best lap in FP2, produced a stress on the front tyre and a grip loss on the irregularity of the asphalt. That grip loss produced the crash with the tragic outcome that we all know."

Asphalt bump contributed to Salom crash, says team

I'd like to see where that bump is, and if it is anywhere near where the F1 cars are braking for the right into the chicane section.

Mick D · Jun 6, 2016

You read that as saying Salom's team says asphalt bump was the cause of his crash.

I read that as saying Salom's team says there are a number of contributing causes including that he left his braking later so he was still on the brakes when he encountered a destabilizing bump he knew of.

JPSLotus · Jun 6, 2016

Mick D said:
You read that as saying Salom's team says asphalt bump was the cause of his crash.

I read that as saying Salom's team says there are a number of contributing causes including that he left his braking later so he was still on the brakes when he encountered a destabilizing bump he knew of.

If the asphalt bump is not there, do you feel the bike becomes destabilized and leads to the crash?

baturro · Jun 6, 2016

JPSLotus said:
If the asphalt bump is not there, do you feel the bike becomes destabilized and leads to the crash?

There were numerous factors lined up that caused Salom's death. Take any out and things could have turned out differently.

If he doesn't brake later than normal, do you feel the bump destabilizes enough to lead to the crash?

If you need a culprit, there are lots to choose from.

JPSLotus · Jun 6, 2016

baturro said:
There were numerous factors lined up that caused Salom's death. Take any out and things could have turned out differently.

If he doesn't brake later than normal, do you feel the bump destabilizes enough to lead to the crash?

If you need a culprit, there are lots to choose from.

You're speaking in a hypothetical, I'm speaking as to what actually happened.

I don't care as to what might have happened had he braked where he normally was. Fact is the asphalt bump is what caused the crash to unfold the way it did. Braking where he did is a non-issue if there is no asphalt bump.

danski · Jun 10, 2016

This is a nice touch from Alonso , respect!
Alonso running special helmet for Salom

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