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Lorenzo upset

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Obviously no one has told Jorge,that Honda has not programmed human emotion into Asimo as of yet.

War Of Words, Episode I: Lorenzo vs Pedrosa
When Jorge Lorenzo entered MotoGP, sparks were sure to fly. Lorenzo is both outspoken and flamboyant, and has never been at a loss for words. He has also never been afraid of confrontation, having spent virtually his entire career engaged in sniping at various targets in the paddock. Such was his reputation, indeed, that as part of his contract, Yamaha banned the "Lorenzoland" celebrations, and forced Lorenzo to work with a psychologist to keep his impetuosity in check.

This was all done, of course, because Yamaha were fearing, and MotoGP fans were looking forward to, a potential clash between Lorenzo and his team mate, the equally flamboyant Valentino Rossi. But so far, all has been peace and light in the Yamaha garage, a situation possibly helped by the huge wall splitting the garage in two.

But Lorenzo has not quite completed his transformation from sinner to saint. The reigning 250 world champion has a few old scores still open with former 250 champ Dani Pedrosa. And those scores are kept open by the open warfare conducted in the press between Alberto Puig, Pedrosa's mentor, and Dani Amatriain, Lorenzo's manager, two men who raced against each other in 250s, and make no secret of their hatred of each other.

So it came as no surprise that Lorenzo fanned the flames of old divisions this week, complaining bitterly to the Spanish daily AS.com that Pedrosa refused to congratulate him on the podium at Qatar. "I have no interest in causing controversy," the Spaniard told AS.com, without a hint of irony, "but if I see something that's wrong, I say it publicly, without hesitation. I don't like the fact that he didn't congratulate me, but each man must do what he thinks is right. If I'd been in his place, I would have congratulated a rider who had managed to finish in 2nd place in his first race. But then, I'm not Dani Pedrosa."
 
sounds like the Spanish fans now have the drama they have been longing for. this sort of propaganda will bring droves of Spaniards to the church of motogp and plenty of euros to dorna.
 
It's really more like episode 20 or something like that, these two take a dig at each other whenever they can. More often Lorenzo than Dani.

Lorenzo is a pretty controversial character, he also ended up really bad with his previous teammate Barberá. Let's see how long it takes for him to tangle with Rossi. Not much IMO.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Teomolca @ Mar 17 2008, 12:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>It's really more like episode 20 or something like that, these two take a dig at each other whenever they can. More often Lorenzo than Dani.

Lorenzo is a pretty controversial character, he also ended up really bad with his previous teammate Barberá. Let's see how long it takes for him to tangle with Rossi. Not much IMO.

Yes, but now it is on a national level. Edit: Sorry, at the highest level

Here is Crash.nets version. Much the same.

Although Pedrosa and Lorenzo raced each other for two seasons in 125GP - during 2002 and 2003 - they were rarely in direct conflict, and it was only when Lorenzo fought reigning 250cc champion Pedrosa head-on during the 2005 quarter-litre season that the fireworks between them - and their respective team managers - really began to ignite.

The rivalry reached its on-track climax with a collision between them at the 2005 German Grand Prix, which sent Lorenzo to the ground.

The incident occurred when the Fortuna Hondarookie tried to overtake Pedrosa on the inside of the fast left-hander at the bottom of the Sachsenring hill, but Dani appeared not to see his countryman and cut across the front of the #48.

Pedrosa's Movistar Honda suffered a bent exhaust in the resulting impact - but he still went on to take victory - while Lorenzo was eliminated on the spot.

"I tried to get past Pedrosa because I was very quick out of the corners, but he did everything to try and stop me," claimed Lorenzo at the time. "In the end he hit me, on another day I could have hit him. It's one of those things."

For his part, Pedrosa said that he simply hadn't seen Lorenzo. "I suddenly noticed that somebody hit me from the back," declared Dani. "The bike went up and I avoided a crash like a miracle."

But Lorenzo's team manager didn't accept that explanation.

"I am surprised by the comments of Dani Pedrosa who claimed he did not see Jorge," declared Dani Amatriain. "I think maybe he should change his helmet because obviously the one he has at the moment doesn't let him see very much. From what I saw, and have subsequently seen on television, I am very clear on who the aggressor was and who wasn't..."

And so the war of words continued for the rest of the '05 season, with Pedrosa arguably having the last laugh by beating Lorenzo in their final 250cc race together - and thereby denying Jorge of his final chance to replace him as the youngest ever winner of a 250cc grand prix.

The pair were then separated when Pedrosa stepped up to MotoGPwith Repsol Hondafor 2006, where he won two races in his rookie season before finishing second in the 2007 world championship, while Lorenzo took the 250cc crown in both '06 and '07.

But Lorenzo's graduation to the Fiat Yamaha team has put the 20-year-old firmly back on Pedrosa's radar - especially after delivering a debut pole position [Pedrosa qualified fifth for his first MotoGP race] and a Pedrosa-equalling second place finish in his first MotoGP race.

Pedrosa, still recovering from a fractured hand, took third in the Qatar night race and therefore joined Lorenzo and race winner Casey Stoner on the podium - where it wasn't something Pedrosa said that troubled Lorenzo, but what he didn't say...

"I did not like that he did not congratulate me, although we can all do and say what we want," Lorenzo told the Spanish press. "If I were him - Dani Pedrosa - I would have congratulated a newcomer that finished second. Everyone else I saw at Qatar congratulated me; mechanics, riders and officials.

"I try to get along well with everyone, to always be a gentleman, and when someone does better than me I congratulate them," claimed Jorge. "Although it might be difficult to do, I will still say to them 'you did a great job'.

"That it how I was taught to behave by my father since I was small and if Dani wins at Jerez I will, of course, congratulate him. I do not know if he would accept my congratulations, but I will do it even if I am criticised for it," he added.

The Spanish Grand Prixat Jerez, which takes place on March 30, is the first home race of the year for both Lorenzo and Pedrosa.

"We are not going to get 'dizzy' after the good performance in Qatar," Lorenzo insisted. "We are only thinking about Jerez now and not about the world championship."
 
Lorenzo is a welcome addition to MotoGP. He started to win me over when I realized he had bike control and then when he shushed the crowd at Qatar when they announced Pedrosa on the podium sealed the deal.

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These two can beat each other up all day long. They are Spaniards so they will always be battling for second in the premier championship.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mylexicon @ Mar 17 2008, 12:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Lorenzo is a welcome addition to MotoGP. He started to win me over when I realized he had bike control and then when he shushed the crowd at Qatar when they announced Pedrosa on the podium sealed the deal.

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These two can beat each other up all day long. They are Spaniards so they will always be battling for second in the premier championship.
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Well I didn't know much about Lorenzo, just his fascination with himself. But if part of that fascination includes dumping on Pedrosa, then I'm all for it.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jumkie @ Mar 17 2008, 03:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Haha
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Well I didn't know much about Lorenzo, just his fascination with himself. But if part of that fascination includes dumping on Pedrosa, then I'm all for it.

I didn't know much about him other than his addiction to lolli pops.
 
Oh yes another good rivalry, this season is just getting better and better.

I'm not fond of either of them but i'd definitely love to Lorenzo beat Pedrosa again and again and again.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mylexicon @ Mar 17 2008, 08:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Lorenzo is a welcome addition to MotoGP. He started to win me over when I realized he had bike control and then when he shushed the crowd at Qatar when they announced Pedrosa on the podium sealed the deal.

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i got to admit i thought that was pure class
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Well all I hope is that maybe this is the one thing that will break Stoner's Jerez curse .... with those two occupying each other maybe Stoner will not be so distracted at Jerez and finally win there.

But I won't count my chickens to much.
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Maybe its going to be Stoner, Dovi, Toseland for the podium .... now wouldn't that be a turnaround for the season!!
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BarryMachine @ Mar 17 2008, 11:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Well all I hope is that maybe this is the one thing that will break Stoner's Jerez curse .... with those two occupying each other maybe Stoner will not be so distracted at Jerez and finally win there.

But I won't count my chickens to much.
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Maybe its going to be Stoner, Dovi, Toseland for the podium .... now wouldn't that be a turnaround for the season!!

WOW barry what a suprise a post about lorenzo and dani but you still manage to fit stoner in 3 times, WOW and 2 other riders without mentioning lorenzo or dani.

why dont you ask casey can you move in with him and be his tea-boy....

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[quote name='mylexicon' date='Mar 17 2008, 04:32 PM' post='118148']
Lorenzo is a welcome addition to MotoGP. He started to win me over when I realized he had bike control and then when he shushed the crowd at Qatar when they announced Pedrosa on the podium sealed the deal.


I've heard a few references to this podium thing.

Can you clarify what happened?
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (povol @ Mar 17 2008, 07:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>But Lorenzo has not quite completed his transformation from sinner to saint. The reigning 250 world champion has a few old scores still open with former 250 champ Dani Pedrosa. And those scores are kept open by the open warfare conducted in the press between Alberto Puig, Pedrosa's mentor, and Dani Amatriain, Lorenzo's manager, two men who raced against each other in 250s, and make no secret of their hatred of each other.

and that is what all the crap is ultimately about, he just wants to reinvent himself as a saint, and if putting Dani down is a way of doing that then he'll enjoy it all the more!



<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (SackWack @ Mar 17 2008, 08:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>- where it wasn't something Pedrosa said that troubled Lorenzo, but what he didn't say...


christ, he gets complaints when he doesnt say anything and slated when he does!

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE <div class='quotemain'>"I did not like that he did not congratulate me, although we can all do and say what we want," Lorenzo told the Spanish press.

so whats the problem then whore gay?



this was inevitably going to kick off again, its pathetic really. why cant they just ignore each other and be done with it, thats funnier to watch on the podium anyway!
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jazkat @ Mar 18 2008, 12:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>WOW barry what a suprise a post about lorenzo and dani but you still manage to fit stoner in 3 times, WOW and 2 other riders without mentioning lorenzo or dani.

why dont you ask casey can you move in with him and be his tea-boy....

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Well my post was about Stoner after all
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and how The Lorenzo/Dani feud may benefit him ..... Stoner

not anyone else .... but Stoner
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BarryMachine @ Mar 18 2008, 10:20 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Well my post was about Stoner after all
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and how The Lorenzo/Dani feud may benefit him ..... Stoner

not anyone else .... but Stoner
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mmm, fanboy
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (stop_killing_dead_things @ Mar 18 2008, 04:55 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>why cant they just ignore each other and be done with it, thats funnier to watch on the podium anyway!
nahhhh.... i want to see a punch up between the 2 ala rossi/biaggi.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (frosty58 @ Mar 18 2008, 02:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>nahhhh.... i want to see a punch up between the 2 ala rossi/biaggi.
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a dream come true that would be.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (JohnnyKnockdown @ Mar 17 2008, 07:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I've heard a few references to this podium thing.

Can you clarify what happened?

Yes.

Pedrosa came third so they announce him first to the podium. Lorenzo came second so he was standing directly behind Pedrosa, sucking on his lollipop. When they announced Pedrosa Lorenzo shushed the crowd.

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It was nice.
 

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