Lorenzo - I don't care about MotoGP championship
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He's being pragmatic about where things stand in 2016 for him.
He's outspoken, and isn't going to offer cliched statements about everything. It doesn't take a genius to figure out his chances of taking the title are about nil now.
When he says "We are not competitive" he refers to his side of the garage as he always has done.
Support from the team is about over and their focus is no longer on him as they are focusing on the 2017 bike and supporting the guy who will still be there for another two years.
He knows the Michelentino tires screwed him out of defending his title, there's not a whole lot that can be done other than to just ride to the best possible position. It has nothing to do with the weather and track conditions not being 100% perfect. Stop peddling that ........ since you've been proven quite wrong on that a number of times.
He's outspoken, and isn't going to offer cliched statements about everything. It doesn't take a genius to figure out his chances of taking the title are about nil now.
When he says "We are not competitive" he refers to his side of the garage as he always has done.
Support from the team is about over and their focus is no longer on him as they are focusing on the 2017 bike and supporting the guy who will still be there for another two years.
He knows the Michelentino tires screwed him out of defending his title, there's not a whole lot that can be done other than to just ride to the best possible position. It has nothing to do with the weather and track conditions not being 100% perfect. Stop peddling that ........ since you've been proven quite wrong on that a number of times.
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How is this any different than when Rossi was asked about the championship and he responded, we can't make any plans? And talked about taking it race by race.
They both said basically identical .....
Except, Rossi has the added benefit that he has influenced the tire direction (detrimental to Lorenzo ) not to mention Rossi is getting updates.
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Lorenzo will be very careful not to burn the Yamaha bridge between now and the end of the season. As far as that goes. between now and mid 2018 when it will be announced he is returning. The constant tinkering with the construction of the tires and the lack of support in the garage has left him in limbo. He is a lame duck but knew this going in as its part of leaving a team, especially on the terms he left.
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We've been talking about how confidence levels of riders affect their performance. I wonder how the result of silverstone affects Vinales. Suzuki is not competitive enough in hot weather. If he rides well on next few races, he may do really well next year.
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Compared to last season, the M1 is not as strong of a bike, but I'd add the caveat that neither is the RCV, it's only the rider really making a difference on that bike. Otherwise Rossi would be leading the championship. The front was tailor made for Rossi and by proxy the other heavy late brakers.
Stoner talked after the Austria test that riding the current crop of GP bikes on these tires successfully is about braking as late as possible on the bike before turning into the corner, something both Rossi and Marquez do exceptionally better than any other rider. Lorenzo has never been a heavy braker. His best performances this season have been when track temperature is hot enough to heat the tire up through his style of braking; Losail and Mugello. Austria it was hot, and sure enough he placed on the podium. Silverstone was not and he finished 8th.
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What he should have said, if he doesn't become more competitive, he will consider retirement.
Then Carmello would respond, no not "I am calm", more like "don't let the door hit you on the way out".
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If by "mojo" you mean tires that are not suited specifically for Rossi, then I agree. Until Rossi is long retired this may never happen. And even then, Lorenzo won't be the most popular rider, since tires are developed from a popularity standpoint, Lorenzo will never get tires that will specifically suit him.I think he does care but he is more concerned with getting his mojo back...
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Oh this forum! Always there to entertain me with our favorite conspiracy theorists
Lorenzo does not even blames the tires himself, the truth is everyone needs to adapt. And many are doing it so, beating your favorite black sheep in the process.
Why can't he do the same? Oh wait, I don't want you to actually answer, because I know you'll find the excuses and angles from your hypothetical assumptions that something is going on behind our back.
Lorenzo does not even blames the tires himself, the truth is everyone needs to adapt. And many are doing it so, beating your favorite black sheep in the process.
Why can't he do the same? Oh wait, I don't want you to actually answer, because I know you'll find the excuses and angles from your hypothetical assumptions that something is going on behind our back.
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Aside from the fact that your question was entirely rhetorical, I assume you understand the principal differences in set up and the ramifications of these preferences in respect of the differing characteristics of tyres? Going back to 2009, are you also aware of the watershed that resulted from the introduction of the Bridgestone control tyre?
And what of Rossi's own conspiracy theory concerning last season? Entirely different perhaps, or not a conspiracy theory because it fits your view of the world?. Again, given late season last year, it is open season for conspiracy theories I would have thought.
Assuming Jorge is not completely stupid, what would be the point of him complaining about the tyres in his current circumstance?. He may be misguided, but there is ample evidence his determination is not to be underestimated. He is not going to Ducati for the money imo, and do you really think he made the decision to go there after 3 titles and 43 premier class race wins for Yamaha in the belief it would help him win this year's world championship?
He isn't complaining about going to Ducati next year either. Does this mean this was entirely his preference, and that he was lying previously when he said as recently as last year that he would like to be a Yamaha icon like Roberts, Lawson and Rainey whom he matches for world championships as a Yamaha rider?
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Jorge constantly talks about how he can't get feeling in the front end, how is that not tyre related?
And sure, as Jumkie said in regard to the tyre delaminations the last race but one, having taken the bold step of going to Ducati who have not been overly suited by the control tyre era, he is obviously going to trenchantly criticise the sole tyre supplier, when anyone with basic arithmetic and a knowledge of the workings of the world can easily determine this will not avail his championship hopes in 2016.
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Everyone is on the same tires, that's an issue with Jorge's riding style and skillset. All GP riders are expected to adapt to changing tires and bike technologies. Jorge has won on the Michelins, he just hasn't performed well when the weather isn't perfect.
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